Adam

Do any of you have experience with the Bear Family Johnny Cash box "Come on Ride This Train" with 8 "concept" albums of Americana? Eight complete albums plus outtakes, not a chronological order like the boxes. I'm not quite the completist, so I don't think that I need the other Bear Family boxes, but this one intrigues me.

Catalina's hasn't been in North Hollywood in my memory, and alas I don't know where Shelly's Manne Hole was. But Catalina's was in Hollywood on Cahuenga just south of Hollywood Blvd, and moved about a year ago to a place just a few blocks south & west, at Sunset and McCadden (one block east of Highland).

I missed the article when it ran, being out of town this week, so thank you. That's quite a good account, touching on Rocco's, Cafe Tropical, the Open Gate Series, along with the main venues. But it is odd how LA jazz just doesn't get people. I am currently working in the same building where Catalina's is now located. I was there the week that Tyner played. And I didn't go to any shows. Pretty lame of me. And I can't use traffic as an excuse.

I was at that show I can't answer your question, but I had a mixed response at the show. Some songs worked, others didn't.

I was about to recommend N.T. Wright (particularly Jesus and the Victory of God) but looks like you beat me to it. Wright's knowledge of 1st century Palestine, second temple Judaism, and pretty much all extant texts and documents relating to Jesus is extremely thorough. That work is large but a must-read for a serious study. In it he spends 100 pages just explaining his historical method explicitly and why it should hold to offer serious conclusions. Wright has dialogued frequently with the more liberal side of contemporary Jesus scholarship (Marcus Borg and Wright even co-authored a two-views book). For a smaller work to handle basic questions on historical method and textual criticisms, Paul Barnett's Jesus and the Logic of History is the one to get. Too many scholars are logically sloppy in their methodology, likely due to prior commitments, so Barnett lays some groundwork for a level-headed (read: logical) approach to the matter. The notion of Jesus never actually existing is not taken seriously in any serious scholarly circles that I know of, but unfortunately it still gets a lot of mileage in pop-media scholarship specials and publications. It is provocative and attention-getting enough to gain an audience; to not only completely isolate the "Jesus of History" from the "Christ of faith" (because the Enlightenment taught us that history and faith are necessarily in opposition, right?), but even to boldly conclude there actually was no Jesus of history behind the early Christian movement in the first place. Other common problems: - So many new books painting new pictures of the historical Jesus, and we end up getting Jesuses who resemble the author's own life and times, social ethical and theological preferences, or based on seeming arbitrary thematic emphasis extracted from the same source texts everyone else is using. It's Rorscharch scholarship. - Many scholars labor under the assumption that a successful reconstruction of the socio-political climate of early first century Palestine is enough to reconstruct the person of Jesus as to his psychological make-up and self-awareness. It is ruled out then that Jesus could have (A) brought something new to the table and/or (B) reached back to more traditional, pre-Hellenistic Jewish themes (though he spoke in contemporary terms) and self-consciously appropriated them for his own unique mission. j ← Wow, lots to respond to there. First, thank you for correcting my error on Borg's last name, and for mentioning Wright. I forget Wright's exact position, but he has a high position in the Church of England, I believe, and is an excellent scholar. He is often placed in debates as joeface mentions, to give a more "conservative" reponse to the liberal interpretations. In response to your last two points (I'm staying out of the "Did Jesus exist? debate). First, on Rorshach scholarship. I would argue that every book ever written on Jesus (and on many other topics) are more portraits of the times in which the author lives. "author's own life and times, social ethical and theological preferences" Even the Bible. The original selection of which books would go into the Bible was historically a decision made by men who were picking the chapters based on which served their individual "theological preferences." In an alternate time, some of the Apocrypha could be in the official Bible. And of course if Constantine hadn't converted, then most of the books of the New Testament might be lost. So I think you're right, in that the varying interpretations over time definitely reflect the author's views & times. That's why they are interesting to read. If there was only one true view, then why would anyone need to write any interpretation of anything. But even a Bible literalist has to choose a translation, and translations differ by period. So I would go on to say that while a problem with various accounts of Jesus might be along the lines you describe, I believe that is what is also good about them. As to your second point. I don't agree with the second part of it, but that might be a question of which books we've read. The books that I have read that do the reconstruction of the socio-political climate of the time use it to help interpret some of the teachings of Jesus, or show his sources. I haven't found any that rule out "that Jesus could have (A) brought something new to the table and/or (B) reached back to more traditional, pre-Hellenistic Jewish themes (though he spoke in contemporary terms) and self-consciously appropriated them for his own unique mission." In fact, several go to lengths to show what new things he did bring to the table, and trace him to the "Jewish" themes. I think it's always important to remember that Jesus was a Jew who never renounced his Judaism. But that's another debate.

I co-produced a show for the History Channel called "In the Footsteps of Jesus" in which we went to the sites associated with Jesus and looked at the textual & archaeological evidence behind them. You can rent it to see lots of the places, and we interviewed many of the good experts. And what are some of the books? The one mentioned by John Dominic Crossan, and others by him, are good. Crossan, and some of these other people, are controversial figures, because of some of their views. "Rabbi Jesus" by Bruce Chilton is good. Jonathan Reed has a good book co-written with Dominic Crossan focusing on the archaeology of the Galilee area, with specific discussions of some of the towns that Jesus would have been in, such as Sepphoris. I'm blanking on the exact title, but it is something close to "Archaeology of the Galilee." Reed has another book coming out as well. Marcus Borg has a good book as well, but I've blanked on that title as well. In fact, as usual, I'm lousy with the titles. Father Jerome Murphy O'Connor is an expert, but I'm not sure if he's ever written a general book. He's done more technical papers.

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But at least there is Casa Bianca in Eagle Rock, which many hold as the best pizza in the Los Angeles area. I'm not a pizza lover, but it is quite good. What I found amazing was that survey. I've never even heard of the chain that won. And it said that there are at least 200 pizza chains in the country. 200 chains!

Lovely idea. I think 5 or so have made it to CD, and at least 2 have not. But there are also some Waldron dates on a miscellany of Japanese labels that haven't shown up as well, I think.

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I'm sorry for the lateness of my reply. I received them several weeks ag. thank you RDK for heping out! Now to give you some feedback...

Hmmm, are my prices too high on those Elites, or is really no one interested?

Up for some additions and some price reducing.

It is incredible, ain't it? I can't help but think it's a hoax, or a misunderstanding. There's a very nice faux doc about a jungle people discovered in New Guinea who had had no contact with society before their discovery in the early 1970s. A very well-done hoax. But blue jeans have been around since the California Gold rush. I don't know if they had them in Japan, but I would think they've seen someone wearing them in the Philippines. Probably also seen jets overhead at some point. Chemical weapons go back at least to mustard gas in WWI, and Japan did know about those. Record players - well, they would have had 78s in Japan before the war. Weren't transistor radios also around by WWII? But I believe microwave ovens would be new to them. Also plastic wrap (the greatest invention of the last 2000 years, according to at least one source.) And American Idol. They would think that there is only one Korea. And that most of Africa, and India, was still ruled from Europe.

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I think SS is right - if you are leading off, then one should write something detailed. I'm just as guilty. But I also think that, like Star Trek on TV, maybe AOTW needs a short break - perhaps take the summer off, and revive it come September?

Thank you. As I mentioned, I didn't research this, and I had forgotten that Little Johnny C came out as an RVG. I'll go alter that price.

Got the PM & replied. Thank you Hans. Adam

Prices include shipping in the US. Shipping for a CD always seems to cost me close to $2. But I always end up buying a new CD box or padded envelope. Is there a cheaper way? More for International. Send a PM. Looking to sell, not trade. I'm not researching these on eBay. If my asking prices are crazy, let me know. XXX - On hold ZZZ - Sold Lee Morgan - Taru (Connoisseur, 2000) - $13 Johnny Coles - Little Johnny C (Connoisseur, 1996) - $8 ZZZ Grachan Moncur III - Some Other Stuff (Connoisseur 1995) - $10 Johnny Griffin - The Congregation (1994 CD issue) - $8 Big John Patton - Understanding (BN Rare Groove 1995) - $9 Big John Patton - Accent on the Blues (BN Rare Grooves 1997) - $9 Paul Chambers - Paul Chambers Quintet (Connoisseur 1996) - $10 Horace Silver - Further Explorations by the Horace Silver Quintet (Connoisseur 1997) - $10 Dizzy Reese - Comin' On! (Connoisseur 1999) - $10 Jackie McLean - 'Bout Soul (Connoisseur 1997) - $10 David Murray Quartet + 1 - Fast Life (DIW/Columbia 1993) - $12 The Lost Grooves: Rare and Previously Unissued Slices of Funk from the Vaults of Blue Note 67-70 (BN Rare grooves, 1995) - $12 Nat Adderley - Introducing Nat Adderley (Verve Master Edition) - $10 ZZZ Paul Quinchette - The Vice Pres (Verve Elite) - $15 ZZZ Jack Teagarden - Think Well of Me (Verve Elite) - $15 ZZZ Jimmy Cleveland - Introducing Jimmy Cleveland & His All-Stars (Verve Elite) - $15 ZZZ Buddy De Franco and Oscar Peterson Play George Gershwin (Verve Elite) - $15 ZZZ Freddie Roach - Good Move (BN 2000 issue) - $10

Hey, there's a "new" Ingmar Bergman film this summer - "Sarabande" Made for TV in Sweden, and essentially a sequel to "Scenes from a Marriage," I believe. There are others - you just gotta look at the art house listings, because they won't get any hype. Otherwise, I have a bizarre interest in seeing "Mr & Mrs Smith." But I think I will rewatch the Hitchcock version first. (It actually has no relationship except the title) And a few docs of interest. But I still need to see Kung Fu Hustle.

Go. Wear comfortable shoes.

I can only reiterate that which has come above. I'm fortunate enough to live in Los Angeles. For those of you here, the UCLA Film & TV Archive is doing a Buster Keaton retrospective starting on 13 May, showing a whole lot of films. http://www.cinema.ucla.edu/public/calendar/calendar_f.html But then LA also has the Silent Movie theatre, dedicated to showing silent movies. http://www.silentmovietheatre.com/ All films should be experience for the first time in a theatre, I think. I wish there were more revival houses all across America, and not just in the big cities & college towns. A similar experience was when LACMA screened the Preston Sturges films a few years ago. In a full house, with everyone laughing - truly amazing. That wasn't the first Sturges series in LA in my life - I remember an earlier one at the Nuart, and the New Beverly often shows pairings. http://www.lacma.org/ http://www.michaelwilliams.com/beverlycinema/

Wow!!! Me too! And me. Entr'acte is already on one of the Rene Clair Criterion discs, but it will be very nice to have the Leger & Dulac. A nice DVD of all of Germaine Dulac's films would be a marverlous thing.

It might make it more likely for one to be written. But it probably will make it tougher for it to be PUBLISHED. Publishers generally will see another book on that topic in the stores, and ask whether the market can sustain another. Granted there are plentiful exceptions. But honestly the history of Blue Note is a rather specialized topic.

I saw something which sounds like this, but is different. They slap a cyclist, who goes down, and it is the cyclist's head that is hit by on oncoming car. In other words, the totally innocent person got double hit. The guys who do it film the whole thing, with their faces. they all get shocked, drive on for a minute, then turn around (maybe to help?) The whole idea of using cameras, video cameras, and cell phones to capture assaults on innocent people is a very disturbing trend.