clifford_thornton

I haven't got into the BNs so much, but do enjoy the couple of his recordings I am more closely familiar with - one with Booker Ervin on Prestige, the other with Jackie Mc on Steeplechase, The Meeting. A Day in Copenhagen looks good - with Slide and Dizzy, can you go wrong? - but I admit to being very bored by Go and A Swingin' Affair, which has prevented much further investigation. The tone and phrasing on the two sideman gigs I mention are more striking to me, grittier and maybe more hard-earned than on the BNs. Would it be fair to say that the '70s Dexter might be more estimable? How would people here say they differ? I'm not feeling like scrolling through the whole thread to get some opinions... There's one I'm curious about, mainly from the Bennink-fanatic perspective, but the double LP on Catfish from Amsterdam's Paradiso looks pretty cool. Any thoughts? I think it was reissued on Affinity but can't recall. Finally, I think you can totally hear drugs in somebody's playing. Not everybody, but there are some who really sound affected. Alan Shorter is a big one for me - he always sounds zonked, especially later in his brief career. Doesn't stop my enjoyment of the albums, but his playing is pretty nodded-out on a lot of post-Orgasm sessions.

Same here! He was pretty great, as was that band, back in the day! How's Benante these days, anyway?

I'd like to see a nice coffee-table book of Val Wilmer's photos of musicians. Or, a Guy Kopelowicz one, in a pinch!

I also remember it wasn't too long ago that those Horos went for $300-$400 on eBay, so $100 isn't too bad. I've never really been that interested in them, but if I saw them sitting in a shop for less than $50, I'd buy 'em.

I like early- to mid-60s Ra the best, and the ESP vol. 3 is great, especially for that long first track. Excellent! A lot of people fade the ESPs, but not me... As for Saturns, I like Cosmic Tones and Strange Strings quite a bit (at least from the mid-60s output), but my Ra stash is pretty small. Thanks for the photos, btw, they are gorgeous.

Never seen 4198 with a deepgroove!

I dunno, did it have a 2 cm patch of sticker residue in the top right quadrant, with a small nick in the jacket? M- vinyl? Could have crossed the Atlantic...

Those are very good dates, as are the duets with Tony Oxley. I've not heard much "bad" Dixon, though there are some less interesting titles for sure. Odyssey is a motherfucker, though!

Nice mention of Takayanagi. I've wanted to hear those Axis: Another Revolvable Thing records, but alas, my wallet can't hang with their going rate...

Vincent le Masne & Bertrand Porquet - Guitares Derive - (Shandar) great minimalist guitar duets, in the vein of Steve Reich.

Hans Dulfer and Soulbrass, Inc. - Live at the Bohemia Jazzclub - (Stichting) sounds like the Ike Quebec-Freddie Roach group on acid... with Herbert Noord (org), Henk van Es (bari) Arjen Gorter (b) Rob Kattenburg (d) and Steve Boston (conga)

The only organist I really listen to is Larry Young. Sorry to Jim, and everybody else!

Frank Lowe - The Flam - (Black Saint) had forgotten what an interesting date in Lowe's catalog this is, and what a great bassist Alex Blake is. The record was found for $1 in Connecticut nearly a decade ago...

Wow!

I sold all my Jimmy Smith records some time ago, but wouldn't mind having a nice deepgroove of The Sermon. As for cross-pollination, that's how all of it happens! I'm not at all surprised, especially as much of a listener as Trane was, and vice-versa would make some sense too.

Concerts vs. Concert recordings - all seems to me like good old Bob Smithson, the whole site/non-site dialectic. As in, the work as it "occurs" experienced live has a set of rules that are entirely its own, and a recording of such a work has a completely different context and rules, essentially making each of them two different works. Like how an Ansel Adams photograph of the Rockies and actually being at or in that same geographical spot in Real Time/Experience are entirely different things. Funny to be invoking Adams here with AMM and Bob Smithson, but whatever...

Always dig your posts! Happy Birthday!

Thanks for the info! Forgot about that two-fer...

Noah Howard - Quartet - (ESP original stereo) not really my favorite Howard date, but Colbeck shines and the rhythm section is very nice, Scotty Holt on bass (Jackie Mc associate) and Dave Grant on drums. Sort of meandering musically, but what can ya do?

Aw, I like 'em!

That is a VERY uncommon side. In fact, the only time I've seen it on vinyl was a Manhattan DMM pressing - which has led me to believe that it, like Happy Frame of Mind or Dimensions and Extensions, was not issued back in the day. Anyone care to confirm?

To continue in the Ornette mode: Ornette Coleman - Chappaqua Suite - (CBS Sony Japan pressing) too bad this music wasn't used in the original Rooks film. Might have made the film more memorable!

I see we're getting at the same type of joke here - the surrealist type!

Ornette Coleman - In Europe, volume 2 - (Polydor Freedom gatefold) second half of the watershed London trio concert, which sounds great even though from what I've read, the concert sounded like a snowball-effect of headaches. I do really like these Polydor Freedom series LPs - much nicer sound and presentation than their American counterparts.

And here's another I like quite a bit: Q: How many people with ADD does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: Wanna go ride bikes?