porcy62

Well, original BN are far more expensive, in particular the Grundman reissued titles: Mobley and Morgan, just to name a couple.

JJJOHNSON MOSAIC++++

Deus62, you're right. Everything changed in recording industry, even musical instruments, like the guitarists who search today the sound of old tubed Marshall Amp know very well. Hoffmann said RVG used the "tricks" during the recording, that means he equalized during the recording session. So, a part the decision about placing microphones, wich kind of mics, ecc.., the master tapes are already equalized for mastering LP suitable for the playback system they have at that time. I think we will never know wich is was the "real sound" of Blakey's drums at the Birdland 50 years ago, maybe RVG or Chuck know it.

I agree with Hoffman. I work as editor for tv broadcast and I have the same problems every day with video and audio editing. What will be the destination of the tape? A mono broadcast on tv, a multichannel home video o dvd? In other words what will be the system used by the listeners/viewers. It seems pretty obvious that at VG times you had to work on equalisation in order to achieve a live sound on the average hifi gear of the times. For me it's useless an great mixing on my 10K $ studio monitors if the listeners will loose all my job because of their 200 $ loudspeakers, on the contrary you might loose informations, because in the studio the system is much more accurate than an average playback system, the voice can be mixed with music and a 10K system allow you to understand every single word. When I mix a documentary with oversound, music and live sound my goal is toward listener's playback system. I know that low frequencies, usually under 100/130 Hz, are inaudible on normal broadcasting, when the wind hit the mic, I simply cut low frequencies and nobody will know that there was wind during the shooting, this would be impossible for a movie or dvd mixing. Another problem I found working on edited tape depends on the previous editor. You must know how works your editing system. I can spot a mix on JBL monitors, because the editor attenuated low frequencies, (JBL monitors tend to bost them), on the contrary if a bad editor works with Tannoy or similar "thin" monitors you could have the opposite problem: "too much" low frequencies on edited tapes The ageing and the use of tapes damage them, at least the video tape, analog, I use. Most of the old Ampex one inch videotapes in the italian archives are gone away forever and the restoration is a costly and difficult process. To stay on the topic I have to say I did not listening at the RVG cd, I have the Mosaic that sounds pretty well for my ears. For me too the RVG remasterings, and not only them, are a bit too "bright". I think it's more a matter of taste, and playback system, than a statement about the "real sound" of Art Blakey cymbals at Birdland 50 years ago.

Hey guys, you forgot the Mosaic version! Lets start the thread again!

I forgot it! You're right, I own and love this album, it seems different every time I listen at it, not very often really, but this is a sign of great music. I mean discovering new thing at every listening. There are some nice Bruce's vocals in a couple of Michael Mantler ECM lps, not bad, bur EOTH are superior.

I was listening at some Cream lps in these days and I realized I don't know nothing about the post-Cream Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker work. Any suggestion where to start?

Careful with that vinyl, Eugene

Lately, I spent more times on Ebay searching rock record, usually US first pressing of classic like Lou Reed, Dylan, Byrds, ecc.. The great finds consist in prices, infact due to the euro/dollar rate is getting chaper to buy an Lp in US, even added the shipping it is well under the average price of Italy!! B-)

Billy Bragg? Wow, I thought was out of fashion!! I love this man, I heard him everytime he came to Italy. Wolff, I never saw you in the political forum, but it seems you don't dislike Bragg for his political ideas

...they're so big and strong... I didn't think about that. Actually I don't see any relation between vinyl and wurtsel!!

Those germans!! Actually when I don't find original pressing of rock records, or they are too expensive, I go for german and dutch pressings, they are far better than french and italian pressing, sometimes are better than original!! And if you consider the quality of ECM pressing, one of the most silent and long lasting vinyl I tested in my life. Those germans!!

Eric Dolphy and Booker Little Memorial Album, original prestige mono, RVG in Trail off wax.

A magazine who had Hunter Thompson among his journalists can't be so bad!! B-)

I bought the cds in Italy, so I don't know where you can find sound clips, but if you like his piano playing you should also listen at "Play Morricone" and "Play Morricone 2" two dates with Joey Baron and Marc Johnson. I listened at them this summer, a great concert expecially for JB. The label is CAMJAZZ. website: http://www.camjazz.com

I find Goldmine guides very useful and accurate for my vinyl madness: full descriptions of cover, label, pressing. I am wondering if exist something like that for UK records.

ZAPPA "GUITAR", a double lp of Frank's guitar solos B-)

This is not my stuff, maybe someone else around here may be interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4052123054&rd=1

I love this one!!

Don't do it!! I strongly reccommend: don't do it!! When I did it I falled in a mortal spiral. Vinyl is an addiction, like drugs, and could be even more expensive!! When I look at my cds, Mosaic or not, I think about the way I could change them with vinyl!! I should have throw my old Thorens away, never rescued it from the box in my parents garage. I warned you! Now I have to leave you, I have an original RVG Impulse! on my turntable.....

I am listening at King Crimson "LIZARD", UK Island first pressing. Well, you could talk about SACD, audiophile Lp pressing, ecc.. but these guys of analog age really knew what music means. Absolutely stunning!!!!

JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE LIVE AT BERKELEY. Time flows but I can't get old enough to quit Jimi

Until now I found several good seller in US. They are good, and sometimes cheap, for US pressing of Jazz and Rock LPs. I didn't find any online shop for UK rock records, like Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Clash, Free, Traffic, Cream, ecc. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.

I avoid sellers who only accept Bidpay payments; in my experience they're very expensive and take several days to clear. Yes, Bidpay is more expensive than Paypal, maybe I am only angry with Paypal who push me to get another CC. Anyway I can live without Paypal, I live in Italy, if you consider the cost of air shipping, and the average price on Ebay Jazz Records, Bidpay is the minor problem.

Paypal asked me TWO DIFFERENT CREDIT CARDS, Visa and American or Mastercard, because due to Visa restriction I reached my spending limit, (2000 dollars). I had my Bank account linked, but this seems it doesn't affect my spending limit. Consider my Visa has a monthly limit well over 2000 and ebay limit is not monthly. I simply reached my total limit in two years! I asked ebay why should I have another CC that I really don't need, an unusuful cost apart ebay, they answered I have to due to Visa restrictions. The result is I quit Paypal and use Bidpay or CC direct to sellers.