Mark Stryker

Listening again this morning to “Quintessential Recording Session” (Chiaroscuro) from 1970. Good God. Might be the greatest of them all — I think in a one-artist, one-record challenge, it would be my pick for Hines.

Got it, and I agree the responses you got were inadequate.

Folks — Earlier in this thread I addressed what appears to be real reason behind the stray digital only track.,The producer told me that Sue Mingus and the estate added this track at the last possible second and insisted it be included. Production at that point was too far along to add it to the CDs. I can't believe it was "discovered" later than the other material, so -- and here I am speculating -- there must have been some communication issue between Sue and the producer or some other issue that went sideways for this to land as it did.

Thanks to everyone for their enthusiasm. No Amazon pre-order yet but I'll everyone know when we get there.I actually do have a cover image but it's in PDF form right now and too big to post here. When I get that figured out, I'll drop it in -- I love the photo image and type style

Thanks for the enthusiasm. Publication is slated for Aug. 1, 2019. University of Michigan Press.

The new MIngus set has been getting media traction. My take emphasizes the unique and largely unknown Detroit story of the Strata Corporation that brought Mingus to the city in the first place. In my forthcoming book, "Jazz From Detroit," I go deep on Strata and other self-determination efforts in Detroit in the '60s and '70s, including Tribe, Detroit Artists Workshop and Detroit Creative Musicians Association. https://www.npr.org/2018/11/09/666123401/mingus-jazz-in-detroit-catches-a-giant-at-a-moment-full-of-possibility?live=1

Sigh. A great musician and, judging from just a couple personal encounters, a sweet man. R.I.P. I have tremendous tapes from two nights he played in Urbana c. 1985 with a trio led by bassist Marlene Rosenberg and featuring saxophonist Ron Dewar.

Interesting question, but I don't know the "and Friends" set well enough to comment.

Actually, it's rational. I love Roy -- I mean, he's a Detroiter after all. But Mingus has a sort of quirky time feel and it moves around a lot, and I think that, among other things, Dannie Richmond had a way of playing the beat that both pulled Mingus along and seemed to lock into the bass wherever it was and however it moved and made it sound steadier than it was. I don't think the hook up with Roy is nearly as consistent --maybe because Roy is a more conventional drummer in the sense of laying down a hard bop groove. Listen to "C Jam Blues" on this set; sounds like the beat is dragging. Don't anybody misunderstand. I LOVE Roy, but there are horses for courses, and Dannie was the perfect thoroughbred for Mingus. As I said earlier, I've got a piece on this set coming soon. I think it's being published tomorrow. I'll post a link when it's available.

I have piece dropping on this set soon. (Actually, it's been ready for a week but there have been some issues at the other end of the process. Don't ask.) Re: the digital only version of "Pithecanthropus Erectus." I was told that Sue Mingus and the estate added this at the last possible second and insisted it be included. Production at that point was too far along to add it to the CDs. I can't believe it was "discovered" later than the other material, so -- and here I am speculating -- there must have been some communication issue between Sue and the producer or some issue that went sideways for this to land as it did

Do you recall when that concert with Marcus took, place?

Thanks for the detail. I was going to pass on this because, I was thinking, do I really need buy ANOTHER version of a record I've now owned on at least two previous LPs and two previous CDs? I did not realize, however, that the answer was "yes." The fact's uncommonly clear.

NIce. Thanks for that. I wish I would have gotten to know Al McKibbon -- Detroiter and Cass Tech grad ...

Moving into the Lockjaw neighborhood, yes. Wish he had more than two choruses to see where he might have gone here. Who are the other soloists?

Kirk has been visiting Detroit more regularly to perform in recent years. Here's a photo of him, me and singer Joan Belgrave (Marcus' widow) taken last summer in Ann Arbor.

That Hi-Lo's track was new to me. Thanks. FWIW, I like this version of "Tour de Force.". Everyone sounds great, including a young Chick Corea.

She takes that dog EVERYWHERE. She's co-artistic director of a small arts organization in Detroit called the Carr Center -- the other co-artistic director is Terri Lyne Carington. They took over for Geri Allen, after Geri died. Anyway, a year ago she was in town working with some students and young pros and the dog -- Daisy? -- had the run of the place. It was kind of insane. But she was GREAT with the young musicians. It was a big band and they were playing Thad's music, and she knew it all having sung with the band every week for years. Privately, she told me some stories too about touring with the band, which I can't repeat in this forum, but there was was life and lessons learned. Coda: Here's she is in the the early '70s singing the shit out of "Bye Bye Blackbird" with Thad & Mel. What an incredible chart this is. Good God, It's only 2 1/2 minutes but listen to how much music is in there. The intro that paraphrases the melody of the tune but gnarls it up in DENSE harmony, the clever backgrounds to the vocal chorus; the 1/2 chorus of ensemble loaded with expressive dissonance, melodic wit and serious swing, the call and response between sections, the final climax with the vocal and then out with a short tag leading to a coda that winks back at the intro. A fucking Concerto for Voice and Jazz Orchestra in 146 seconds. .

BTW, the source material for "Tour de Force" is "Jeepers Creepers" -- same chord changes.

Love the clip of 'Sunny Side of the Street." I think Stitt held Dizzy in such high regard that he really took care of biz when he was in his company. As fun as the vocal is -- so great to see Stitt having a ball -- where they put the beat while singing is DEEPLY swinging. Thanks for posting. Re: how often Brown and Johnson teamed. The answer is not much but maybe more than you think. From Tom Lord: Count Basie (1) : Paul Campbell, Joe Newman, Wendell Culley, Reunald Jones (tp) Henry Coker, Benny Powell, Jimmy Wilkins (tb) Marshal Royal (cl,as) Ernie Wilkins (as,ts) Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis, Paul Quinichette (ts) Charlie Fowlkes (bar) Count Basie (p,org) Freddie Green (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) (2) : Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis, Paul Quinichette (ts) Count Basie (org) Oscar Peterson (p)Freddie Green (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) (3) : Paul Campbell, Joe Newman, Wendell Culley, Reunald Jones (tp) Henry Coker, Benny Powell, Jimmy Wilkins (tb) Marshal Royal (cl,as) Ernie Wilkins (as,ts) Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis, Paul Quinichette (ts) Charlie Fowlkes (bar) Oscar Peterson (p) Freddie Green (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) (4) : Count Basie (org) Oscar Peterson (p)Freddie Green (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) Andy Gibson, Teddy McRae, Ernie Wilkins, Buck Clayton, Nat Pierce (arr) New York, July 26, 1952 832-4 Cash box (ag,tm arr,1) Mosaic MD8-229 [CD] 832-5 Cash box (ag,tm arr,1) Clef EPC195, MGC138, MGC685, Verve VE2-2542, (Jap)70MJ3235, Classics (F)1281 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD587-2 [CD], Ocium (Sp)OCM0028 [CD] 833-3 Bootsie (ew arr,1) Mosaic MD8-229 [CD] 833-4 Bootsie (ew arr,1) Clef EPC196, MGC148, MGC685, Verve VE2-2542, Classics (F)1281 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD553 [CD], FSRCD587-2 [CD], Ocium (Sp)OCM0028 [CD] 834-2 Tom Whaley (bc arr,1) Clef EPC195, MGC148, MGC685, Verve VE2-2542, Classics (F)1281 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD587-2 [CD], Ocium (Sp)OCM0028 [CD] 835-1 Blues for the Count and Oscar (2) Mosaic MD8-229 [CD] 835-7 Blues for the Count and Oscar (2) Clef EPC252, MGC633, MGC729, Verve VE2-2542, V3HB-8850, (E)VLP9074, (F)74085, 2304.410, (Eu)511.022, (Jap)70MJ3235, 513630-2 [CD], Verve MGV8108, Classics (F)1387 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD553 [CD], FSRCD589 [CD], Saga Jazz (F)982994-4 [CD] 836-5 Be my guest (ew arr,3) Clef EPC252, MGC633, MGC729, Verve V3HB-8850, (F)2304.410, Verve MGV8108, Classics (F)1387 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD587-2 [CD] 837-2 You're not the kind (np arr,1,5) Clef EPC251, MGC647, MGC723, Verve VE2-2542, VSP13/14, (F)2304.410, (Jap)70MJ3235, Columbia (E)LB10085, Classics (F)1387 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD587-2 [CD] 838-2 Extended blues (4) Clef EPC252, MGC633, MGC706, Verve VE2-2542, V3HB-8850, (E)VLP9074, (F)74084, (Eu)511.022, 2632.006, (Jap)70MJ3235, Classics (F)1387 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD589 [CD], Verve 060249835531 [CD], Saga Jazz (F)982994-4 [CD] Note: Jimmy Lewis was previously listed as playing bass on some tracks. However, aural evidence suggests he is not present on this session and only Ray Brown plays bass. Classics (F)1387 [CD] titled "Count Basie 1952-1953"; see flwg sessions to December 12, 1953 for rest of CD. Verve 060249835531 [CD] titled "Jimmy Smith - Organized". All above titles also on Mosaic MD8-229 [CD], Verve B0004705-02 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55716 [CD]. Fresh Sound (Sp)FSRCD589 [CD] titled "The Swinging Count!". [H7129]Add Billie Holiday Billie Holiday And Her Lads Of Joy : Joe Newman (tp-1) Paul Quinichette (ts-2) Oscar Peterson (p,org-3) Freddie Green (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) Billie Holiday (vcl) New York, July 27, 1952 YBC839-6 My man (1,2) Clef 89089, MGC-686, Verve MGV-8027, VE-2-2503, (E)VLP-9096, (Jap)20MJ0020, (E)2304109, 849434-2 [CD], Verve 823246-2 [CD], 5357155 [CD] YBC840-4 Lover come back to me (1,2) Clef 89037, Clef MGC-686, Verve MGV-8027, Verve VE-2-2503, Verve MGV-8338-2, (E)2304109, (Jap)POCJ-1548 [CD] YBC841-3 Stormy weather (1) Clef 89064, MGC-686, Verve MGV-8027, VE-2-2503, (E)2304109, 849434-2 [CD], Verve 5357155 [CD] YBC842-2 Yesterdays (2,3) Clef 89037, MGC-686, MGC-639, Verve MGV-8027, VE-2-2503, MGV8195, MGV-8338-2, (E)2304109, 849434-2 [CD], (Jap)POCJ-1548 [CD], Verve 5357155 [CD] YBC843-2 He's funny that way (1,2) Clef 89089, MGC-686, Verve MGV-8027, VE-2-2503, (E)2304109, Verve 849434-2 [CD], 314 513 943-2 [CD], 5357155 [CD] YBC844-3 I can't face the music (1,2) Clef 89096, Clef MGC-686, Verve MGV-8027, Verve VE-2-2503, Verve (E)VLP-9096, Verve MGV-8338-2, Verve (E)2304109 Note: Verve 823246 [CD] titled "The Billie Holiday Songbook" ; see sessions to June 7, 1956 for rest of CD. All above titles also on Clef MGC-144, Verve (Jap)OOMJ-3480/89, Verve 314-513859-2 [CD], Classics (F)1285 [CD], Avid (E)AMBX146 [CD], Universal (F)533614-4 [CD], Jazz Images (F)38011 [CD]. [F2050]Add Ella Fitzgerald Ella Fitzgerald (vcl) acc by Oscar Peterson (p) Herb Ellis (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) Live, "The Teatro Sistina", Rome, Italy, April 25, 1958 Stompin' at the Savoy Verve 835454-2 [CD], (Jap)POCJ-1913 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55723 [CD] Note: All titles on Verve 835454-2 [CD] also on Verve (Jap)POCJ-1913 [CD]. [J2155]Add Jazz at the Philharmonic Dizzy Gillespie (tp) Stan Getz (ts) Lou Levy (p) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) Concert "Olympia", Paris, France, April 30, 1958 Introduction by Norman Granz Fremeaux & Associes (F)FA5632 [CD] Just you, just me - You're blase (dg out) - Bernie's tune - [G2183.5]Add Dizzy Gillespie Dizzy Gillespie Quintet : Dizzy Gillespie (tp) Sonny Stitt (ts-1,as-2) Lou Levy (p) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) England, May, 1958 Blues after dark (2) Philology (It)W43-2 [CD] Lover man (dg out,1) - [J2156]Add Jazz at the Philharmonic Musique Du Film "Les Tricheurs" : JATP All Stars : Roy Eldridge (tp-1) Dizzy Gillespie (tp-2) Sonny Stitt (as-3) Stan Getz (ts-4) Coleman Hawkins (ts-5) Maxim Saury (cl-6) Oscar Peterson (p)Herb Ellis (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) Film soundtrack "Les Tricheurs", Paris, France, May 1, 1958 1389 Les tricheurs (1,4) Barclay (F)BEP74024, Versailles (F)MMB600, Karusell (Swd)KEP355, Verve 314-521674-2 [CD], Mosaic MD7-222 [CD], EmArcy (F)013044-2 [CD], Poll Winners (Sp)PWR27230 [CD], EmArcy (F)532881-2 [CD] 1390 Clo's blues (5) Barclay (F)BEP74024, Versailles (F)MMB600, Verve 314-521674-2 [CD], EmArcy (F)013044-2 [CD], Fontana (Eu)834752-2 [CD], EmArcy (F)532881-2 [CD] 1391 Phil's tune (1) Barclay (F)BEP74024, Versailles (F)MMB600, Verve 314-521674-2 [CD], Mosaic MD7-222 [CD], EmArcy (F)013044-2 [CD], Poll Winners (Sp)PWR27230 [CD], EmArcy (F)532881-2 [CD] 1392 Mic's jump (2) Barclay (F)BEP74024, Versailles (F)MMB600, Verve 314-521674-2 [CD], 314-589780-2 [CD], EmArcy (F)013044-2 [CD], American Jazz Classics (Sp)99109 [CD], EmArcy (F)532881-2 [CD] 1393 Finale (1,2,3,4,5?,*) Versaille (F)MMB600 On the Alamo (false start) (2,3,5,#) Universal (F)275230-6 [CD] 1394 On the Alamo (6) Versaille (F)MMB600, American Jazz Classics (Sp)99109 [CD] Get happy (false start #1) (2,3,4,#) Universal (F)275230-6 [CD] Get happy (false start #2) (2,3,4,#) - Get happy (false start #3) (2,3,4,#) - 1395 Get happy (2,3,4) Versaille (F)MMB600, American Jazz Classics (Sp)99109 [CD] Sweet Georgia Brown (conversation) (2,3,4,#) Universal (F)275230-6 [CD] 1396 Sweet Georgia Brown (6) Versaille (F)MMB600, American Jazz Classics (Sp)99109 [CD] Note: Verve 314 521674-2 [CD] titled "Nothing but the blues"; issued as by Herb Ellis. Fontana (Eu)834752-2 [CD] titled "Des Femmes Disparaissent/Les Tricheurs"; other titles by other leaders. First 4 titles also on American Jazz Classics (Sp)99106 [CD]. All titles, except (#), also on Fontana (F)834752-2 [CD] titled "Des femmes disparaissent/Les tricheurs". All titles, except (*), also on Universal (F)275230-6 [CD] titled "Jazz at the Philharmonic - Les Tricheurs". [G1553]Add Stan Getz The Great English Concert 1958 : Stan Getz Quintet : Stan Getz (ts) Lou Levy (p) Herb Ellis (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) JATP, "Free Trade Hall", Manchester, England, May 17, 1958 Love walked in (1) Jazz Groove (E)JG007, Rarities (Dan)64, Moon (It)MCD040-2 [CD] We'll be together again (1) Jazz Groove (E)JG007, Moon (It)MCD040-2 [CD] Taps Miller - That old feeling - It never entered my mind - All God's chillun got rhythm (1) Jazz Groove (E)JG007, Dejavu (It)DVRECD17 [CD], Moon (It)MCD040-2 [CD] Note: The rest of Jazz Groove (E)JG007 by Coleman Hawkins, May 1958. Rarities (Dan)64 titled "The Early Days, Vol. 2". (1) These titles also on Raretone (It)FC5012. Moon (It)MCD040-2 [CD] titled "The golden years Vol. 2: 1958-1961"; see various flwg sessions to September 1, 1961 and JATP for the rest of this CD. All above titles also on Solar (Sp)4569952 [CD]. [F2082]Add Ella Fitzgerald Ella Returns To Berlin : Ella Fitzgerald (vcl) acc by Lou Levy (p) Oscar Peterson (p-1) replaces Levy, Herb Ellis (g) Wilfred Middlebrooks (b) Ray Brown (b-1) replaces Middlebrooks, Gus Johnson (d) Ed Thigpen (d-1) replaces Johnson. Concert, Berlin, Germany, February 11, 1961 Introduction and announcements Verve 837758-2 [CD] Give me the simple life - Take the "A" train (*) - , American Jazz Classics (Sp)99134 [CD] (I'd like to get you on a) Slow boat to China - (Medley - Why was I born ? - Can't help lovin' dat man - People will say we're in love - Intro - You're driving me crazy - Rock it for me - Witchcraft - Anything goes - Cheek to cheek - Misty - Caravan (*) - , American Jazz Classics (Sp)99134 [CD] Mr. Paganini [You'll have to swing it] - Mack the knife - Fanfare for Ella - 'Round midnight - Joe Williams' blues - Fanfare for Ella (diff version) - This can't be love (1) - Closing announcements by Norman Granz - Note: (*) These 2 titles also on Poll Winners (Sp)PWR27369 [CD]. All above titles also on Verve (Jap)POCJ-2065 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55719 [CD]. [F2108]Add Ella Fitzgerald These Are The Blues : Ella Fitzgerald (vcl) acc by Roy Eldridge (tp) Wild Bill Davis (org) Herb Ellis (g) Ray Brown (b) Gus Johnson (d) New York, October 28, 1963 63VK674 How long, how long blues Verve V-4062, 841 765-2 [CD] 63VK675 See see rider - , VK10319, V6-8720, (E)45VS522, (Jap)MV9066/67, 841 765-2 [CD] 63VK676 Trouble in mind Verve V-4062 63VK677 Jailhouse blues - 63VK678 Heah me talkin' to ya ? - , 517898-2 [CD] 63VK679 Cherry red - Note: All titles also on Verve V6-4062(stereo). All above titles also on Verve 829536-2 [CD], (Jap)POCJ-2066 [CD] both titled "These are the blues"; see flwg session for the rest of this CD. [F2109] Add Ella Fitzgerald same pers New York, October 29, 1963 63VK680 You don't know my mind Verve V-4062 63VK681 Downhearted blues - 63VK682 St. Louis blues - , (E)VLP9166, (F)2304009 63VK683 In the evening (when the sun goes down) -

Monk: "When you're swinging, swing some more!"

Many reliable sources reporting on social media that Sonny Fortune has died at 79. These include his former manager Marty Khan, Todd Barkan and others. (Moderators can decide when it's appropriate to add the R.I.P. to the thread.)

The orchestra did the right thing by hiring an outside law firm to investigate and then publishing the entire report -- complete transparency. (Though whether orchestra management had previously taken allegations that came from within its own ranks seriously enough -- before the Washington Post's story in August -- is a separate question.)

Suddenly, I feel as if I am Organissimo's Senior Sexual Misconduct Correspondent ... Here is yesterday's Washington Post story about the Cleveland Orchestra firing concertmaster William Preucil and its principal trombonist for sexual misconduct and harassment. It was Post reporters Peggy McGlone and Anne Midgette who first reported in August allegations of misconduct by Preucil and others in the classical music world. https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/cleveland-orchestra-terminates-two-musicians-after-sexual-harassment-charges/2018/10/24/4d213ca6-d7a1-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html?fbclid=IwAR2IblDP22d3s1RH7jEtZ2N5wl05pATEinSsNXKZ4ivJyU21shBUNyHl8i0&utm_term=.6dc3637e262a And here is today's Detroit Free Press story about a new allegation/lawsuit brought against countertenor David Daniels by a University of Michigan student for alleged sexual assault. This is not the same charge that emerged a few months ago about an incident in Texas. https://www.freep.com/story/news/education/2018/10/24/david-daniels-opera-singer-sexual-assault/1752862002/?fbclid=IwAR2ogX7JCFKGvfHyYbY_kVsQ7oM_FljyslHpPhVokvG24Aeg7fNzseUeiLE

Because I posted the initial story, I feel compelled to alert folks that Coleman has posted a long rejoinder on his Facebook page that quotes at lengths from his lawsuit. The link I was trying to share isn't working, but folks can find it. Or maybe someone else can link to it here.