Tim McG

Here's your post, Danny. I have highlighted your pretend "sloppy writing": Keep dreaming, Danny.

This from the man with bat shit for brains who thinks there is a love tryst between Bonds and Clemens. Pssh. Don't waste my time, Danny.

Yeah, it sure is. If it wasn't for Burrell (finally! a left fielder, after all those other fools out there), they might be way out. Lincecum needs to get his stuff together, his last three starts have been disasters. Exactly, Matthew. Though the Gigantes won last night over the Cards, Lincecum needs to stop tinkering with his form and get back to what got him those two Cy Young Awards. All Lincecum needs to do is find the 5-6 miles an hour that have gone missing from his Fastball most of the season. He wouldn't have been tinkering with his hand placement, if he was pitching like he did in April, or last year. Maybe he's listening to the wrong people. All along the MLB pitching "experts" have said he isn't supposed to be able to pitch like he does and still get SOs and wins. I'm guessing he's been trying to do what the close-minded pitching "experts" are saying is all wrong with his delivery. The Old School Righetti springs to mind. Hm. Here's a solution: Maybe the MLB Estabishment just needs to STFU and leave Lincecum alone....then the Giants need to fire Righetti. GRRRR!!!

What I am so obviously saying is the Feds called for a delay in the Bonds trial then indicted Clemens. I see. I wouldn't have edited out the essence of your argument had I realized that, "An indictment just before Bonds kangaroo trial. ..." obviously meant "the Feds called for a delay in the Bonds trial. ...." I honestly would never have guessed that's what you obviously meant. But regardless, whatever you imagine their motivations to be, an indictment of one person does not "prove" anything, let alone the merits of a separate case. So the feds want to convict Clemens first, in order to prime the Bonds jury? (Don't want to misread you. By "outcome" you do mean 'verdict,' yes?) But is Clemens going to trial before Bonds? I honestly don't know the answer, but I don't believe a trial date has been set for Clemens yet, has it? The assumption built into your statement above (that a Clemens conviction would influence a Bonds jury, if that's what you're trying to say) would seem to depend on Clemens being tried (and convicted) first. I'm not Danny. I guess we need to start with the basics. And Clemens appears to be just another asshole who thinks the rules don't apply. Hope that helps. Oh c'mon, Papsrus. You are making something out of nothing here and you know it. Of course you aren't Danny, but he reads this stuff too, OK? And do you seriously believe the Feds are above trying to manipulate the trial of their biggest fish in Bonds [one they have to justify wasting millions of taxpayer dollars] by trying/indicting Clemens first? So the Jackie Joyner conviction taught you nothing along those lines? Of course they are trying to prime the pump. How else can they try to convict Bonds with the flimsy hearsay evidence they do have? A set Clemens trial date isn't the point. A conviction of Bonds is. Do you seriously want us to believe that the Feds think Clemens is the real target here in this sham steroids bullshit? Honestly? They just want to poison the well, so to speak, of potential jurors. I sincerely hope this whole thing just blows up in the Feds faces. Such a big thing over a kids game. Geez. Where were those same Feds when Linda Tripp lied to Congress? Then Ollie North before her? They got off scot free, but baseball players are more sinister? Please. This is a joke investigation started by Bush II and his bully boys and you know it.

All the best, Dan. Just don't go sideways on them like you do here sometimes. Trust me on this

You're starting to not make sense. "The indictment ... proves nothing except the government has no case." How do you get from point A to point B on that one? And dismissing the validity of the trials before they've even begun seems like the classic denial behavior. You're setting up the escape hatch as if expecting that they will be found guilty. What if they're found not guilty? Will you view the legal process that vindicated them as invalid? I'd think these two athletes would welcome their day in court as a chance to clear their names. In fact, Clemens has said just that. I'm sure Bonds has, too. As for taking back Clemens' WS wins because he's now tarnished with the same PED brush as Bonds, I don't think anyone is suggesting that the Giants forfeit any or all of their wins -- WS or otherwise -- in which Barry Bonds participated. It's a team sport. Asterisks next to individual accomplishments, that's another story. The problem is, you are reacting to something I did not say. You deleted the core of my comment. Your "from point A to Point B" comment is just plain manipulation of a highly edited remark. The whole sentence, not just the edited parts, tell the reader exactly what I really meant. That kind of edit out stuff is total crap, Papsrus. To wit [and I boldfaced the entire sentence for you]: What I am so obviously saying is the Feds called for a delay in the Bonds trial then indicted Clemens. It is a classic badger game: Keep the "badger" busy [in this case, the public] while you go after what you really want. In this case, indict Clemons for using steroids in an effort to "prove" Bonds is quilty if they get a conviction on CleClemensmons. Juries are people and as such they are affected by the outcome due to similar circumstances which might persuade them to vote for guilt in the Bonds case where the Feds have no evidence. As to any games being taken back, that's not the point here. Bonds' HR breaking baseball was asterisked and the hue and cry was to asterisk anything he ever did. My point was if people are so pissed about Bonds' HR record, then why aren't they calling for the same kinds of humiliation for Clemens or McGuire or whomever? Bottom line: Race. A Black man had the temerity to beat a White drunkard. Period. Get it now, Danny?

Agreed. Maybe quit pot and stop acting/looking like a Grunge Rocker? Time to grow up, Lincecum. Matt Cain is the ace of the staff right now. I can't say I'm too thrilled with the way Freddie Sanchez approaches the game either... I don't think the Giants have an Ace right now. Seems like pitching by committee at this point.

Agreed. Maybe quit pot and stop acting/looking like a Grunge Rocker? Time to grow up, Lincecum.

I take offense, Brad. Misnomer...how so? Explain, please. GoodSpeak is the name of my small business and is what I do beyond my full-time job which defines who I am.

Yeah, it sure is. If it wasn't for Burrell (finally! a left fielder, after all those other fools out there), they might be way out. Lincecum needs to get his stuff together, his last three starts have been disasters. Exactly, Matthew. Though the Gigantes won last night over the Cards, Lincecum needs to stop tinkering with his form and get back to what got him those two Cy Young Awards.

A deal...? Danny, you are aware, of course, that the bench threw out the Fed's biggest piece of pretend evidence, aren't you? The Feds asked for a dely, not the defense. A love tryst...and I'm dreaming? M'kay.

Giants Baseball: TORTURE!

You're a smart man to go with this, Timmy. Otherwise you might have to walkback your inane claim that the Bonds case is all about race and the Feds never go after a white ballplayer. Meanwhile, back in the land of reality: The Daily News - whose reporting has yet to be shown to be inaccurate in any way, from BALCO to Bonds to McGuire to Clemens - reports that one source describes the evidence amassed as "overwhelming". Unfortunately it will take but one stupid or biased juror to save Clemens but on the other hand the jury pool in D.C. isn't as likely to look contain that type of person than it is in Texas. And its interesting to note the many charges that are related to Licodain and B-12 injections. Clemens brought those issues in himself, and the Committee interviewed training staff and team doctors in Toronto and NY and they all said to a certainty that what Clemens described never happened. It could be real interesting if Clemens is found not-guilty on the steroid charges because they muddy the DNA-waters (or get it excluded by chain-of-custody claims) but is found guilty on the rest. Satisfying? I might be disappointed but as long as I see a perp walk, orange jump-suit and for him to be damned for all eternity, I'll be happy. Yeah, yeah. You still have to have proof, Danny. End of comment. Game. Set. Match. Nuff said.

I patiently await all of the mounds of hearsay evidence the Feds have to prove their case. You know, just like with Barry Bonds. So! Where is the public outcry to asterisk everything Clemens did? Are we taking back all those WS wins, too? An indictment just before Bonds kangaroo trail proves nothing except the government has no case. This is just total nonsense and a waste of taxpayer money.

My burger? Tommy's World Famous, of course! Order it with everything...trust me May sure you grab a few "little big hot" peppers to eat with it....hey, don't make me come over there!

If the Red Sox are out of the race....maybe Dan will go away? Is that even possible? Please say it is.

I'm guessing that wasn't the whole conversation, Dave. Post it all here. Your personal take on the issue isn't proof.

I predict the Wildcard will come out of the NL West....again. You saw it here first.

Giants SWEEP the hated Dodgers!!! Death to Dodger Blue!

And you all forgot Jon Miller.

Let the steroids allegations begin, er...no wait! Contador isn't an American. What was I thinkng? Carry on.

Hey! A 6-1 road trip for my guys

As for Steinbrenner, I used to hate him, and he did run into a drought of a few years for going overboard....but you knew he wanted to win. And was willing to put his money where his mouth was. Billionaire owners(some who are likely richer than the Steinbrenners) like the guy who owns the Indians would rather cry poor than keep Sabathia, VMart, Cliff Lee, etc. I wonder if the Yankees and Red Sox give them money now??? And Goodspeak, owners were always greedy. Players were too, but couldn't do a damn thing about it in the past.... And Steinbrenner gave them the "permission" to ruin this great game. He is still wholly and completely responsible for crossing the line, Berigan.

Well yes. Band Aids, water and getting enough sleep enhance performance, too. Clearly there's a difference between aspirin and steroids, both in their legality and their effects on performance, unless you're aware of some recognized study that claims that there isn't. The legality of steriods is a separate issue from perfomance enhancement. To even suggest that steriods make you hit home runs or throw strikes is sheer foolishness. Hence, my point.

Then why in the hell do you ride my ass?