paul secor

Found the time to listen to Bill Dixon's Considerations 1 late this afternoon - met and surpassed my memories of it.

Two that I haven't listened to in years, tho I have good memories of them. Time for a relisten - when I get the time.

Agreed. Didn't mean to put down musicians' opinions in any way. Thought that I was careful to do that, but I guess that I wasn't. Just wanted to point out that the two sides (or more) exist.

clem - Wasn't writing about Mr. Yanow - never pay any attention to his writing. I was just agreeing with the gist of what Jim wrote and was commenting that sometimes - sometimes - musicians writing about music can get caught up aspects of technical things, facility, etc. - things that nonmusicians might - might - not pick up on, and lose sight/sound of some other, perhaps more important, aspects of the music - perhaps even miss some of the essence of the music. I've learned from musicians on this Forum, but I've learned at least as much from nonmusicians, including yourself. (I'm making the assumption here - perhaps wrongly - that you're out in the audience with most of the rest of us.)

Cogent post, and I agree with it except for one exception. Sometimes musicians can get caught up in some of those "particularities of the instrument" which "enhance the ability to hear the finer points of the music", and miss something in the quality of the music itself that might be more evident to a nonmusician. It can happen sometimes.

I think that whether Bob Rusch went to the trouble to seek out JSngry's website is beside the point. There are a lot of people on the internet who use aliases, and one could go nuts trying to find out who's behind what name. The point is that Bob Rusch was responding to a comment/accusation which was quite vague. I don't know who's "right" or "wrong" - maybe those terms don't even come into play here. I do know that I respect both Bob Rusch and Jim Sangry.

Perhaps Jim should elaborate on what his experience with Cadence was. Outside of mentioning Cadence and a somewhat vague time frame, nothing definite was mentioned. I've been a subscriber to Cadence since issue 2, and I can't recall seeing much advertising in all that time. Finally, if I weren't a member/lurker here, I wouldn't know who JSngry was or what JSngry stood for. I don't think that should be held against Bob Rusch. I don't know Bob, but I've spoken with him a number of times over the years, and I know that he has his own way of looking at things (as do many - most? - of us here). I also know that he has always come across to me as an honest person.

Saheb Sarbib Quartet: Seasons Hadn't played this date in a long time, and it sounded better than I had remembered.

Happy Birthday, Chuck Berry!!! Chuck Berry was the cat who showed me how exciting music could be. I got to see him once when he was still doing it, and that was a great night - the music, seeing him do the Chuck walk, the whole thing.

Thanks Tom - I'll have to give Wess and Chautemps (new name to me) some real attention.

Hod O'Brien: Bits and Pieces

Hope you have a great birthday, Chris!!

Alberta Hunter: Amtrak Blues

Herb and Lorraine Geller: The Gellers

Have a great one!!

RIP Freddy. You'll be missed.

Happy Birthday!!

He lived a half hour away from me and I never knew it. RIP.

Finally had some time to listen to disc 2 - still have to get through disc 1. Anyway: 1. Monk's "Blues Five Spot" - Have to admit I cheated a little and checked a couple of Monk recordings to come up with the title. I'm the worst when it comes to tune titles. Clever and it sounded like they were having a good time. I just didn't hear all that much depth to what they were doing. 2. Not my kind of thing at all. The only track I hated to listen to. 3. Again -not my thing. Didn't like the rock influenced rhythm, among other things. 4. Nothing special, at least to my ears. Sounded a bit like the kind of slow groove that Red Garland used to get into on his recordings from the 50's. This sounded later than that. The pianist didn't have the rhythmic feel to make this work completely, at least to my ears. The bassist seemed to be featured and recorded up front. Was it the bassist's date? 5. Liked the flute - strong player. Liked some of the organist's lines and voicings. Wasn't taken by the organist's rhythmic sense. 6. Liked the sax. Sounded so familiar, but I couldn't place him. I'm sure that when I read who it is, I'll feel like a dummy for not recognizing him. This was my favorite track. 7. The saxophonist and the piano can play their instruments, but this was pretty much a waste, to my ears. There are too many late Trane clones out there, and to no purpose. I'll guess Pharoah and John Hicks, but I don't listen to this kind of thing at all, so it could be other people. 8. Another track I liked, but no idea who the saxophonist was. Sounded like an older player influenced by Ben Webster - that breathy tone. When the track began I thought maybe a subdued Archie Shepp, but I'm sure it's not he. My second favorite track on CD 2. 9. Sounds like some musicians fooling around. The vocalist is one of the worst I've ever heard - is it an instrumentalist goofing? The trumpet just sounded like someone running some lines without being emotionally involved - tho I guess that emotional involvement was not the purpose here. Not one I'll listen to again. Tom - thanks for tracks 5,6,& 8 - When I find out who was playing, I'm sure I'll want to hear more of them.

What Clem said.

I have mine filed under Blakey because he was the leader. That said, Monk is the main man on that date. Blakey and Griff play some fine things, but Monk is the deal.

Another vote for the Eldridge Mosaic. One of their best.

Forgot the three volume London Collection on Black Lion - the end of the line for Monk's recording career, but fine stuff.

Thelonious Himself is a great one. Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk - Blakey always played great on Monk-led records, and Monk returned the favor here. Live at the Five Spot: Discovery! (w. Trane) - I don't have the remastered/tape speed corrected issue on the Blue Note Complete box, but this still sounds good to me. And you might want to try and grab Monk in Tokyo before it disappears -tho it will no doubt be reissued at some point. Hope you enjoy whatever you pick up.