Leeway

I understand where you are coming from but isn't it presumptuous for us to forgive? What are we forgiving him for? Shocking us? The victims are the children. The children who were raped, tortured, abused. It is for them (and their families) to decide whether there should be forgiveness. It just feels to me that to proffer forgiveness for this person is almost presumptuous, no matter the good intention behind it.

Boy, can't put anything over on you guys!

The thing is, every Sun Ra album is different, and every one I've heard is worthwhile. There are a lot of good suggestions here, but I have to take issue just a bit with Jeff's statement. My own view is there are a dozen or so that are indeed worthwhile, but there are as many or more that one would be better served saving one's money on. Sun Ra put out a lot of stuff, and some of it is just not that good, or at least no better than average. Now you have the reissue houses following along pumping out every bleat and honk from the band's past. You could easily go broke buying Sun Ra albums but in the end you'd probably wish you stuck to the 10-15 albums identified in these posts.

A co-worker told me he went to this fellow's concert recently. The co-worker took some photos (this is not one of them, his are better) of the performer. Could hardly believe it. Not a jazz person but a musician/singer:

Last night I posted a picture of a Penderecki album in the classical section. Looked at the post about 4P today and it had disappeared. I was going to repost the picture a few minutes ago, and it had reappeared. Is Rod Serling a moderator on this board?

Looking at his bio makes you realize there are a lot of ways to make a living in the music biz.

I think this is a pretty interesting band. Pettiford on cello, Mingus on bass, Phil Urso on tenor, Julius Watkins on Frnch Horn, Walter Bishop, piano, Percy Brice (who he?), drums. It's fine if a bit tame considering the calibre of players and the presence of Mingus.

Thanks Chuck. Thanks for the info! Did not realize that.

Steve a great guy and a totally committed, passionate musician. I'll check it out. I do find it interesting that this "kick-starter" method of raising funds is starting to proliferate.

Something a little outside my usual orbit these days. I found the discographical info interesting. It's on "Realm Jazz: Savoy Series" and it was put out by Oriole Records Limited, London. Those are new labels to me. Seems like Oriole was around for a fair while. Realm is new to me. BTW, the record is in mono.

Lovely blue eyes

PM sent on the 3 Leimgrubers.

When I drive up to New York City, I occasionally catch his show (by chance). There is something weirdly compelling about a guy who can spin 15 minutes worth of material into a one, or is it two, hour show (seems even longer). The guy just loves to hold forth. I'd hate to be cornered at a party by him. That being said, sometimes the intrinsic interest of the subject matter overrides his over-the-top approach. Bird is great enough to have pigeons like Schaap live off of him.

I know what you mean, but there is no one type that does this sort of thing. In many cases, these individuals are close family members, friends, or prominent members of the community, never suspected until caught. That's an important lesson. As for this case, what is staggering is the depth of involvement of those charged; terrabytes worth of child porn. I think one commentator said something along the order of 64,000 DVDs worth of material. I feel tremendously sorry for the children who were victimized.

According to news reports, Latin Jazz Grammy Award: Latin Jazz Grammy ugust 2, 2011, 6:26 PM Latin Musicians Sue Over the Grammys By BEN SISARIO6:49 p.m. | Updated A group of Latin jazz musicians, angry that their genre was eliminated as a Grammy Award category, have sued the organization behind the awards to get their prize reinstated. The suit, against the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, was filed on Monday in New York Supreme Court in Manhattan by four musicians who have been vocal critics of the recording academy's decision, announced on April 6, to eliminate 31 of its 108 categories, including Latin jazz. The musicians are Bobby Sanabria, Ben Lapidus, Mark Levine and Eugene Marlow, and the suit identifies all four as members of the academy. The musicians had announced their intention to sue in June, along with a call for a boycott of CBS, which has broadcast the Grammys for decades. In the suit, the musicians say that by cutting categories, the academy breached contractual obligations to its members, and that the loss of the Latin jazz category "could have a severe detrimental impact on the plaintiffs' musical careers." In public statements, Mr. Sanabria, a Grammy-nominated percussionist, has called the academy's decision "the most blatant example of racism in the history of any arts organization." In response the Academy released this statement, "The Recording Academy believes this frivolous lawsuit is without merit, and we fully expect to prevail." The academy has defended its changes by saying that many of the cuts were made because the number of albums submitted in those categories had dwindled, and that the changes were made as part of a two-year review that looked at all categories. Among the other changes the academy made in April were merging some folk and Latin prizes and combining the separate male and female vocalist awards in R&B, pop and country. The suit says that the Latin jazz category "has consistently met the threshold for Grammy Award submissions," although it does not say how many albums have been submitted. In their suit the four musicians ask for reinstatement of only the Latin jazz category, but in an interview on Tuesday Roger Maldonado, their lawyer, said: "If there were to be musicians in other categories that wanted to file their own suits, would we coordinate with them? We would be happy to do so."

Get your MOJO on! Record #3:

the man IS 90+!!!!! LOL I was using it metaphorically, that is, there are a lot of preliminaries before you get to the book itself (do your own extrapolation!). But still.....one hopes one is never too old

Dina Rigg THEN:

Yeah, you're good! I remember Rigg in The Avengers, in her jumpsuit and Lotus sports car. Not sure which turned me on more, her or the Lotus. Damn, she was sexy, and intelligent and fearless too.

I'll try one:

Disc 1:

After searching for quite a while, finally scored the box for $30. Great music and a great deal!

The book is armed with a Preface, a Foreward, and an Introduction. That's a LOT of foreplay.

Maybe Ben Ratliff s on vacation. If jazz has indeed been dropped (I can't see that but we'll see in the next few weeks), it is one more blow against the visibility and viability of jazz as both art and entertainment. As a practical matter, hard-core jazz buffs can get the complete schedule from the New York Jazz Review (formerly AAJ Jazz) New York, which has the fullest listing of shows. Plus there are online resources. As a matter of principle, it is important for jazz to b shown and discussed in the NYT and New Yorker.

I can't seem to find my Art Pepper two-fer now but I think it consists of the same material as two Blue Note Art Pepper CDs: 1) THE RETURN OF ART PEPPER: The Complete Art Pepper Aladdin Recordings, Vol. 1 2) MODERN ART: The Complete Art Pepper Aladdin Recordings, Vol. 2 They are not Blue Note recordings, per se, but apparently Blue Note acquired the licensing rights. There is a Blue Note LP, OMEGA ALPHA, LT-1064, which has some additional Pepper Aladdin recordings not on the CDs.