Steve Reynolds

plus Sonny Clark was a briliant composer while the other two pianists were not.

The Engines CD is on it's way from Poland as we speak and sorry Jeffcrom - I was able to see him once at The Knitting Factory with Paul Smoker, Adam Lane (I think?) and the great Barry Altschul. I think he played all tenor saxophone and it was 2 very good sets of music. Maybe around 1999 or 2000, I think

thank jah for that - I wish I had all the great Blue Note sessions I no longer have - I buy them when I can - but alas I am glad I am not a collector.... but I like to mostly buy music by living artists - often the ones I go see play live You will never see unreleased stuff released by a boutique label before you would see it on Blue Note itself. Given that Blue Note is out of the reissue business, it's time to officially give up hope. i was wondering though, how far this label (Music Matters) are prepared to go re- unreleased stuff. Seen as they are prepared to make their own albums now. Perhaps if the numbers add up and they see a potential release, they might lobby for it? Read my previous post. It will NEVER happen. Time to stop being a "fanboy" and start being realistic. Do you really think a label of origin would allow a licensing label to steal its thunder??????????? Actually. if they think there is more money to be made by franchising the catalogue out, including anything unreleased they probably would, in this day and age. I mean, so much of the Mosaic sets were out a good few years before the previous/latest incarnation of Blue Note prepared their own more user friendly versions. I guess the big point at this stage of the history, is really about whether any more so called 'rejected' sessions or tracks will see the light of day, as the changing of the 'gatekeeper' guard takes place in the future. Will they be made available to 'interested parties' to hear via electronic media, as has been suggested on this board in the past? Probably not. Blue Note and Mosaic are owned by virtually the same people. So, Mosaic releasing "unreleased" BN sessions IS the same as Blue Note releasing them. In the future, if there is a "changing of the guard" as you say, very few people will be interested in hearing the sessions you cite. All jazz fans will be long gone. Give up the ghost. There are literally tens of thousands of other jazz recordings for you to obsess over. good point JETman

bad flashbacks for me looking up a David S Ware thread from another board from late 2002 to early 2003. damn - I was more obnoxious than I thought possible

nothing like I was back in the halcyon days of the net...... I wish I could dig up my quote about the band Mujician something to the effect: 'the greatest improvising ensemble in the history of improvised music' plus I still believe it possibly outside of AMM......

and as far as I am concerned, Archie Shepp on his best day in his prime couldn't have touched the *great* Paul Dunmall on that night.

shoulda see a couple of friends of mine sitting next to me in one of the small rooms at The Knitting Factory maybe around the year 2000. The first set was Paul Dunmall on bagpipe with Paul Rogers on his newly aquired custom upright bass. second set had Kevin Norton joining on drums with Dunmall switching to tenor saxophone. All three of us agreed Rogers was incredible including the friend who was losing interest in jazz leaning towards small EAI type music (which is also a musical interest of mine) and the other who is a long time jazz listener from NYC who goes back to hearing Mingus in the early 70's. As far as Dunmall, the second set to this day is possibly the most powerful live tenor saxophone performance I've ever heard. The others thought things like poor man's Archie Shepp from the 60's to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz so be it............ Poem About the Hero, baby

oops wacky quote of myself....

I really like the playing of Baron & Carter and I love the playing of the great Arthur Blythe when he is on his game. I had that disc back in the day and it did nothing for me. we all have different ears but as far as me not being open to different sounds, I have been seaching and listening to new music for years, but for whatever reason I havn't got into Bill Frisell. mayeb I start a thread about Papa Joe.......

I like Jackie's blue notes as much as any BN artist. Even more than Joe Henderson or Wayne Shorter. Maybe I like Sonny Clark's discs more

I had the mosaic 64-66 box many years ago

Didn't like News for Lulu Not a big Zorn fan either Never heard that trio record Never heard Ginger play jazz Still not sure i want to

I, for one, have never heard anything from Frisell that was interesting in the least. I tried 2 or 3 of the Lovano/Frisell/Motian trio discs I tried a couple of his discs I tried a few other discs with him on them nothing, nada that gets my juices going give me Mary Halvorson or Wes Montgomery or Grant Green or Ben Monder or Marc Ducret or I guess alamost any other guitarist first. it is all so fuzzy....

slow day at work - I decided I need all the Jackie McLean Blue Notes I no longer own inluding Bluesnik, New Soil, Action, Jackie's Bag, Destination Out and Demon's Dance plus then I would need Moncur's Evolution and Soem Other Stuff and then....who knows what else....I used to have them all but some bad shit happened to me back in the day and I had to pare down my CD collection.... I even started looking them up where to buy and almost bought all of them until I stopped myself

my wife throught she didn't like 'avant-garde' live, but she found out differently. She liked this past weekend's totally improvised show (2 sets) with Kris Davis, Mat Maneri, Drew Gress and Jim Black and that is two pretty abstract sets of music with Black only hinting at the driving rhythyms that is one of his hallmarks. She had seen him a couple of years back with Jenny Scheinman's band when Black rocked the Vanguard. I was thinking about a half hour in that she might not be able to handle it, but by the end of the first set, and especially by the end of the stronger second set, she was liking the piano and bass, really liking the drums and despite her futile resistance, in love with the great Mat Maneri. How anyone who has an open heart and open mind could resist his brilliance is still beyond me after all these years. without question, one of the truly great improvising musicians on the planet. awaiting my birthday concert on the 25th......

8-22-65 JACKIE McLEAN, alto sax; CHARLES TOLLIVER, trumpet; LARRY WILLIS, piano; JACK DEJOHNETTE, drums; WILBUR LITTLE, bass - almost the same band as on the BN recording Jacknife with Little in place of Larry Ridley. Freddie Hubbard is in place of Tolliver on half the album as well. 9-5-65 WYNTON KELLY, piano; PAUL CHAMBERS, bass; JIMMY COBB, drums; WES MONTGOMERY, guitar - obviously the same as the legendary Live at the Half Note on verve edited for reference to Jacknife instead of Action

the other must for me will be the new Paul Motian re-issue via a box set of the early ECM recordings.

how about the Shorter quartet or the Rivers, Hancock, Carter, Williams? plus a few great bands with Freddie Hubbard and how about the Pepper Adams front line with Jimmy Heath?

Wierbos, Delius and Baars

Hopefully he is well enough to be in some peace. I still think that with the POD advertisement not showing his name means he is not with the band. Maybe we will get some reports from people lucky enough to see the band in Colorado, Seattle, Chicago or Detroit

in 2011, he left for home early due to exhaustion after the first Philadelphia show on 4/1/2011. I saw him and the band on 3/31/11 @ Le Poisson Rouge and was looking very frail, although when he played (which isn't all that much within the variety of the music the band plays), the sounds from the piano were magical as one might expect. but as far as the band being able to perform without Misha, although it might not be quite the same, but I ask you this, Justin - have you seen the band live? If you have, you might understand that they will kill it with or without the piano. look up pointofdeparture.org on the record review page, you will see that Misha's name is missing.

well I'm actually been trying to go see MOPDTK but it is always on weeknights which are hard for me to make I just ordered another Jon Irabagon trio disc (on Not Two records) but there is no Barry Altschul on that recording.... plus as I mentioned elsewhere - Jon is playing with Mark Helias and Barry Altschul on May 16th @ Cornelia Street - and even though it is a Thursday night, I am sure I will be there.....

this may be posted elsewhere and as always, one of the true high points of my music going/listening experience. For those unfamiliar or unsure that it might be too much this or too much that or not enough of whatever, PLEASE find your way to experience a certain level of interplay, madness, swing and pure musical brilliance and gravitas that simply isn't reached by any working band playing today. strong statement for sure well that's the show I am going to - they have a full agenda that they start tonight - see below or on the ICP website Saturday, April 13 Littlefield, 622 Degraw Street Brooklyn, NY 9:00 p.m. alas no Misha BUT this is the band Han Bennink (drums) is a co-founder of the ICP, long-time associate of Misha Mengelberg, and one of the most in-demand drummers in Europe. He has performed and recorded with jazz musicians such as Dexter Gordon and Sonny Rollins, as well as European improvisers such as Peter Brotzman, Derek Bailey, and Willem Breuker. He trained as a graphic artist and has exhibited work in several media, including sculptures from found objects that can include broken drum heads and drumsticks; he also designs many of his own LP and CD sleeves. In addition to playing solo concerts and his own trio, Ab Baars (clarinet, tenorsax) is a regular guest with the EX, Cor Fuhler, Michael Moore, and Michiel Scheen. Since 1990, his main focus has been on the Ab Baars Trio, which led to tours with Steve Lacy and Roswell Rudd; a collaboration with the Nieuw Ensemble, shakuhachi player Iwamoto and conductor Butch Morris at the festival Improvisations. Baars has also worked with Francois Houle, John Carter, Roger Turner, Sunny Murray, George Lewis, Anthony Braxton, Cecil Taylor, and Gerry Hemingway among others. Tobias Delius was born in Oxford, England but grew up playing tenor saxophone in Germany and Mexico. In 1984 he moved to Amsterdam where he studied briefly at the Sweelinck Conservatorium. Since 1990 Delius leads his own 4tet with Tristan Honsinger, Joe Williamson, and Han Bennink; APA INI is currently a quartet with Hilary Jeffery, Wilbert de Joode & Serigne Gueye. He can also be heard in Available Jelly, Sean Bergin’s MOB, Cor Fuhler’s Corkestra, and Georg Graewe Quintet. In 2004 Delius was awarded the Boy Edgar Prize, the Netherlands' most prestigious award in improvised music. Ernst Glerum studied classical double-bass at the Conservatory of Amsterdam. During his studies he joined contemporary music ensembles (ASKO ensemble) as well as improvised music groups (Curtis Clark, Hans Dulfer, JC Tans, Theo Loevendie). He frequently performed with such artists as Steve Lacy, Lee Konitz, Uri Caine, Teddy Edwards, Benny Maupin, Jimmy Knepper, Jamaladeen Tacuma, John Zorn, Bud Shank, Art Hodes, Don Byron and many others. Besides ICP and the Amsterdam String Trio he performs in the Guus Janssen Trio, Michiel Scheen Quartet, Trio Continuo, Trio Bennink-Borstlap-Glerum and Available Jelly. He doubles on piano in Glerum Omnibus with Clemens van der Feen and Owen Hart. Thomas Heberer (trumpet) was born in 1965 in Schleswig, Germany, and studied at the Conservatory in Cologne until 1987. Since then he has performed with musicians such as Muhal Richard Abrams, Pina Bausch, Dave Douglas, Maria Joao, Howard Johnson, Bob Moses, David Moss, Evan Parker, E. L. Petrowsky, Enrico Rava, Alex Schlippenbach, Elliott Sharp, Tomasz Stanko and Attila Zoller. Thomas is member of several ensembles such as the Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra, European Jazz Ensemble, Aki Takase Quintet, Tome XX and of course has a duo with bassist Dieter Manderscheid. Born in New England, the cellist Tristan Honsinger studied at the Peabody Conservatory in Baltimore. By the '70s, the Trans-American had moved to Amsterdam. Since a memorable set of concerts in Berlin in 1988, released on the much sought-after FMP box set, Honsinger has been a fairly regular member of Cecil Taylor's groups, including the now-disbanded European Quartet with Harri Sjöström and Paul Lovens, including an unusual combination that performed at the Total Music Meeting in November 1999: the Cecil Taylor Ensemble with Franky Douglas, Tristan Honsinger and Andrew Cyrille. Michael Moore was born in Arcata, California, where he played in clubs and attended school before moving to Boston to study at the New England Conservatory of Music. There he worked with Joseph Allard, Jaki Byard, Joe Maneri, Gunther Schuller, George Russell and others. After spending two years in NYC he moved to Amsterdam, where he has lived since 1984. He currently works with Available Jelly, Jewels & Binoculars, Franky Douglas, Achim Kaufmann, Dave Douglas, Fred Hersch, Benoit Delbecq, Eric Boeren, Paul Berner and others. His own projects include the White Widow Quartet, the Monitor Trio w/ Cor Fuhler and Tristan Honsinger and the Michael Moore Quintet. Mary Oliver was born in La Jolla, California, and studied at San Francisco State University (Bachelor of Music), Mills College (MFA) and the University of California, San Diego where she received her PhD in 1993 for her research in the theory and practice of improvised music. Her work as a soloist encompasses both composed and improvised contemporary music; she has premiered works by Richard Barrett, John Cage, Chaya Czernowin, Morton Feldman, Brian Ferneyhough, George Lewis and Iannis Xenakis among others and worked alongside improvising musicians such as Ab Baars, FURT, Tristan Honsinger, Joelle Leandre, George Lewis, Phil Minton and Evan Parker. Wolter Wierbos can be heard on more than 100 CD’s and LP’s. Like many Dutch brass players Wierbos started out in a ‘fanfare’ (brass band), switching from trumpet to trombone when he was 17. Since 1979 he has performed with with Henry Threadgill, The Ex, The Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra (led by Alexander von Schlippenbach), the European Big Band (led by Cecil Taylor), Sonic Youth, the John Carter Project, Mingus Big Band (Epitaph, directed by Gunther Schuller) and many others. He is currently active with Gerry Hemingway Quintet, Franky Douglas’ Sunchild, Bik Bent Braam, Albrecht Maurer Trio Works, Nocando, Carl Ludwig Hübsch’s Longrun Development of the Universe, Frank Gratkowski Quartet, Available Jelly and Sean Bergin’s MOB. Tuesday, April 2 University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, CO 7.30 pm 719-255-4065 http://www.uccs.edu/~vapa Wednesday, April 3 Seattle Art Museum, 1300 First Avenue Seattle, WA 8:00 p.m. 800-838-3006; http://www.earshot.org/Events/spring.html Thursday, April 4 Duende, 468 19th Street Oakland, CA 9:00 p.m. 510-893-0174; http://duendeoakland.com Friday, April 5 The Reedemer Lutheran Church, . Portland, OR 8:00 p.m. 503-897-8264, http://www.creativemusicguild.org Saturday April 6 Constellation, 3111 North Western Avenue Chicago, IL 9:30 p.m. http://constellation-chicago.com/ Sunday, April 7 Ab Baars solo concert Corbett vs. Dempsey, 1120 N. Ashland Ave. Chicago, IL 2:00 p.m. 773-278-1664; http://corbettvsdempsey.com ICP Small Groups Constellation, 3111 North Western Avenue Chicago, IL 8:30 p.m. http://constellation-chicago.com/ ICP Small Groups Hungry Brain, 2319 W Belmont Avenue Chicago, IL 10:00 p.m. 773-709-1401 http://www.umbrellamusic.org/ Tuesday, April 9 Trinosophes, 1464 Gratiot Detroit, MI 7:00 p.m. 313-737-6606; https://facebook.com/Trinosophes Suggested Wednesday, April 10 First Unitarian Church, 605 Morewood Avenue Pittsburgh, 8:00 p.m. 412-361-2262; http://www.garfieldartworks.com Thursday, April 11 International House, 3701 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 8:00 p.m. http://arsnovaworkshop.com Presented by ArsNova. Friday, April 12 The Windup Space, 12 West North Avenue Baltimore, MD 8:00 p.m. 410-244-8855; http://thewindupspace.com Saturday, April 13 Littlefield, 622 Degraw Street Brooklyn, NY 9:00 p.m. 718-855-3388; http://littlefieldnyc.com Sunday, April 14 Hallwalls Contemporary Art Center, Buffalo, NY 8:00 p.m. 716-854-1694 http://www.hallwalls.org/music/5337.html Wednesday, April 17 Casa del Popolo, 4873 St Laurent Boulevard Montreal, 8:00 p.m. 514-284-0122; http://casadelpopolo.com Workshops April 15 & 16

I have a copy of Baptised Traveller somewhere.... finally I am very close to buying a CD rack or two for our new place that we moved in to last August - once it is in place, I would think I will pare down my current inventory a bit....and I've been picking up a few recordings over the past few weeks first off, I will be finally placing an order with erstwhile (as it has been a while) for 3 or 4 of the newer releases - probably the Greg Kelley/Olivia Block, probably the Jerome Noethinger/Will Guthrie, anddefinately the Andrea Neumann/Bonnie Jones and MOST definately the 2 CD Jason Lescalleet recording with the great title, "Songs About Nothing" have also picked up a Creedence recent retrospective to hear more of the classics in prime sound as well as the 2 CD Sugar set including both their LP and EP along with a live set. from the more traditional jazz standpoint, I've picked up some old classics recently that were once in my possession including Hank Mobley's Roll Call, Joe Henderson's Inner Urge, and the 2 disc Miles with Sonny Rollins prestige set (1951 - 56) and I may continue with McCoy Tyner's The Real McCoy, and one of the Ornette Golden Circle trio recordings. far as my meat and potatoes stuff - which is post modern, post whatever whatever free jazz/improv, I will SCOUR the table at the ICP show on the 13th and hopefully find the other second volume (set 2) of the live 2007.Available Jelly recording with Michael Moore, Eric Boeren, Tobius Delis, Wolter Wierbos, Ernst Glerum and Michael Vatcher. The one I have is just about the best thing I've bought in the past year - like I was at the show - the best Michael Vatcher I've heard on record - recorded in awesome ANTI-ECM sound. then these ones on Emanem: STEVENS/RUTHERFORD/PARKER/GUY "One Four and Two Twos" (1978-92) SPONTANEOUS MUSIC ENSEMBLE "Frameworks" (1968/71/73) JOHN STEVENS QUARTET "New Cool" (1992) on PSI: FOXES FOX "Live at the Vortex" (2006) also: Jon Irabagon - Foxy with Peter Brendler and Barry Altschul Peter Evans Zebulon Trio one of the Mostly Other People Do The Killing recordings

Plus I'm going to see Irabagon with Helias and Altshul on May 16th Should be a great show with that monster bass/drums team Now listening to DKV disc 6 on Not Two records Amazing sound! Hope the discs I ordered are close in sound quality