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You must realize that the outlets for organ groups dried up in the 70's. The audience, untill the 90's ,as was rightly stated above, were in the Black neighborhoods, more often than not. Those clubs went away because of economics, crime and the loss of a younger Black audience to more commercial music. Hearing him live, Groove Holmes was the very best that I saw here in Rochester ( a town that was a very good home to many organ groups ) because of his overall muscianship and lack of shucking and jiving for the audience, which is a addiction to a lot of B-3 players, then and now. Joe Dukes! Yea!

Oh My God Chaney! Dickens Lives! Western New York is getting to you Man! I always thought that Buffalo was more depressing than Rochester. Not that much more though, but enough; keep your chin up and you ear cocked. Help is on the way! Think of all of those great players from Buffalo who made it out: Lonnie Smith Mel Lewis Don Menza Sam Noto Jim Hall Hell, my avitar is a photo of ( the not so great, but was a friend ) young Spider Martin! Here is a photo of Menza for you. Keep The Faith!

I just tried the Hiram Bullock link and it worked fine, Mike. Do a search for him and you can come up with it with your browser of choice.

What CD is it that Joe and the Turbanator are on? Here it is, Mike, from The Hiram Bullock website: Hiram Bullock Late Night Talk (1997) My jazz album, definitely a mellower sound. Features Dr. Lonnie Smith on organ, Idris Muhammad on drums, Joe Locke on vibes, Ed Howard on acoustic bass.Hiram Bullock

Well Mike, as you know, that recording dosn't feature Joe Locke on all tracts, so I didn't mention it. Joe Has recorded with Dr. Smith, but not a whole cd and not when Lonnie was the leader. Hell, let's those people at Palmetto a email and make the suggestion! Palmetto Records

This should be a possible new thread, don't you think, as in "What Ever Happpen To.....?" With all of the dedicated researchers and fans here, it should always be interesting.

[quote= I suspect Joe Locke must have done something along those lines - I know how he did a gig at Blues Alley with Larry Goldings that I stupidly skipped, and we discussed later how rare that combination is. Bertrand.

Billy Mitchell - "The Colossus Of Detroit" (Xanadu 158 LP) Billy Mitchell(ts), Barry Harris(p), Sam Jones(b), Walter Bolden(dr) '78/4/18 RECORDA-ME ; I HAD THE CRAZIEST DREAM ; I SHOULD CARE ; UNFORGETTABLE ; HOW AM I TO KNOW? ; BE MY GUEST

I havn't seen all that many posts regarding their expierences there. When I used to go there a lot during the 70's, it had a nice friendly vibe. No hassles from the staff to buy drinks and the crowd could express themselves as they felt as long as it was coming from the right place and they wern't a drag to others. The schedule was much more progressive then than it is now, IMHO. I think I saw Max Gordon there EVERY time I was there; sometimes with his head down on his chest at a middle or back table, listenning...nodding. Very mellow. I NEVER saw Lorraine Gordon there; I think they were sepatated for a long time before his death, although I can't say it is a fact. Recently, I've heard her say some rather lame/uncool things to some muscians. But the place is still great. How often can you sit in a room with so much history?

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I do believe you can get this Pettiford on cd now. Mine is on vinyl and I do indeed like, Mike!

Speaking of Japanese players, what about Ryo Kawasaki, who I remember with Elvin Jones on the 70's. Did he go smooth jazz? With Elvin, he was on fire!

Hey, Allen! Your fav!

I have a wonderful version on Oscar Pettiford - "Orchestra In Hi Fi" with Oscar playing cello. On Paramount Records. Oscar Pettiford: Orchestra In Hi-Fi, Volume 2 abc-Paramount 227 1. Now See How You Are [Oscar Pettiford & W. Harris] 2. I Remember Clifford [benny Golson] 3. Aw! Come On [Oscar Pettiford] 4. Somewhere [Ray Copeland] 5. Laura [David Raskin] 6. Little Niles [Randy Weston] 7. Seabreeze [Larry Douglas] Gigi Gryce-asx, arr Benny Golson-tsx, arr Jerome Richardson-tsx, f Sahib Shihab-bsx Ray Copeland-tpt Art Farmer-tpt (1-5) Kenny Dorham-tpt (6-7) Julius Watkins, David Amram-fr hn Al Grey-tbn Betty Glamman-hrp (2, 5-7) Dick Katz-p Oscar Pettiford-b Gus Johnson-d August 23, 1957 (1-3) August 30, 1957 (4-5) September 6, 1957 (6-7) NYC

The Doctor's conception on ballads is a fine example of playing love songs on the B-3. Soft, emotional and soulful. When he pulls out those stops and he starts whispering... Wow! It's DEEP and geting to be a lost art. Enjoy it while you can.

Yes Sir! He was in the house band there for several years. You'll find him on many of those Ronnie Scott recordings. Here is a quote: In 1964, [saxophonist] Ronnie Scott offered me the job as house bassist at the club. So I became a part of the house rhythm section and got to play with all the jazz greats; I remained there for two years." For Laird, his tenure at the club was a tremendous learning experience; he played for one month with each of a succession of horn players such as Ben Webster, Art Farmer, Sonny Rollins, Freddie Hubbard, Sonny Stitt, and Rahsaan Roland Kirk. He also accompanied the late jazz guitarist Wes Montgomery. Here he is with Ronnie Scott and Ben Webster: What happened to him?

I was just about to add this one also! Albert "Tootie" Heath Drums, Tambourine James Mtume Conga, Percussion Jimmy Heath Flute, Sax (Soprano), Sax (Tenor ) Bob Cranshaw Bass Kenny Barron Piano, Piano (Electric)

Jimmy Heath/Picture Of Heath 1. For Minors Only 2. Body and Soul 3. Picture of Heath 4. Bruh Slim 5. All Members 6. C.T.A.

Pee Wee Photo......

Chris has a valid point. Schaap should at least edit himself. The last time I heard a broadcast, during the John Coltrane week, he talked for 20 minutes about some obsure, unimportant, alternate take of the Johnny Hodges Big Band! And by the way, Chris, no matter what his views, conducts himself like a gentleman here.

No photo but I found this: home.comcast.net/~pkdwoof/audio/birdland.mp3Pee Wee audio

Don't forget.... these are a bunch of really great muscians! Not as "boderline mentaly retarded" as some would think!

I have a Lee Morgan "Mr. Kenyatta & The Joker " and a Art Blakey with "Calling Miss Khadjia " ( I knew her some. She was bassist Steve Davis' wife and McCoy Tyner's sister in law ) 7" 33 prm

One of the memories that hasn't been mentioned here is MUSIC. I think we all have memories of Buddy Rich, Ellington, Joe Williams, Peggy Lee, Dizzy, Clark Terry, Sonny Rollins, Mel Torme and many others that were on the show. These are just a few..... anyone else?

That's what they USED to do with thier degrees. Not Now. Now they go directly into" straight " jobs!