What vinyl are you spinning right now??

[JSngry]

2 hours ago, bresna said:

The stories I heard about his lack of playing time in the late 50's to early 60's centered around the color of his skin.

otoh, the guy had a really dark side that has only recently been brought forth to the general public. but I'd be shocked if nobody knew about it, or at least suspected. People have a way of "keeping their distance" from people with "issues" that are outside the normal community practices, and that can certainly affect employability.

[Big Beat Steve]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

otoh, the guy had a really dark side that has only recently been brought forth to the general public. but I'd be shocked if nobody knew about it, or at least suspected. People have a way of "keeping their distance" from people with "issues" that are outside the normal community practices, and that can certainly affect employability.

i do think I know what you are alluding to (Allen Lowe mentioned it more than once here) but was under the impression this happened quite a bit later than during the late 50s/early 60s.

[JSngry]

Maybe. But the point is just that people sometimes give off a vibe.

Not saying that was the case with Haig, but it could have been. "Race" is certainly an issue (still!), but it's also any easy blanket-blame that can be used to deflect closer scrutiny of an individual.

Besides, where/with whom did Haig want to work that he couldn't because he was white? Did he want a gig with King Curtis or Miles or who, exactly? The Club Baby Grand? House gig at the Apollo?

"Crow Jim...." a construct created by Stan Kenton and Leonard Feather. Proceed accordingly.

[Niko]

now playing: Jon Eardley / Al Haig - Stablemates (Spotlite, 1977)

easily recommended, they both sound so pretty... (and Art Themen sounds pretty good, too) 

[HutchFan]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

"Crow Jim...." a construct created by Stan Kenton and Leonard Feather. Proceed accordingly.

Amen to that.

Not sayin' that it didn't happen.  I'm just sayin' . . .

Besides, lots of jazz musicians -- bebop musicians -- were on the outs during the 60s.  I've been listening to Duke Jordan today. He didn't make ANY records from 1962 to 1973. He was driving a taxi to support himself. 

Lots of factors at play in that.

I'd be cautious about simplifying it as a race issue -- especially in Haig's case.

My 2 cents.

 

Edited May 29, 2019 by HutchFan

[Niko]

Quintet Boy Raaijmakers

He may mostly be remembered as a Free Jazz trumpeter but this album is straight hard bop from Nijmegen 74 with a Fender Rhodes in the center

[Clunky]

Franz Koglmann——-Opium————(Blackmonk)

 

excellent reissue of Pipe Records seventies LP

[mjazzg]

5 minutes ago, Clunky said:

Franz Koglmann——-Opium————(Blackmonk)

 

excellent reissue of Pipe Records seventies LP

And that is definitely on my 'to buy' list

[jlhoots]

8 minutes ago, Clunky said:

Franz Koglmann——-Opium————(Blackmonk)

 

excellent reissue of Pipe Records seventies LP

Since I don't have a turntable, I bought the CD.

[sidewinder]

[clifford_thornton]

On 5/29/2019 at 2:10 PM, Niko said:

Quintet Boy Raaijmakers

He may mostly be remembered as a Free Jazz trumpeter but this album is straight hard bop from Nijmegen 74 with a Fender Rhodes in the center

I have that one kicking around somewhere; can't recall very much about it, sadly.

[Gheorghe]

11 hours ago, sidewinder said:

Is this one of those double albums they had from Prestige during the 70´s ? This one features the early sessions 1949/50 ? Those with Bud, the sides with John Lewis and J.J.Johnson ...... I have the LP with maybe the original cover, that´s some strange cover with some "angry birds flyin around".

Edited May 31, 2019 by Gheorghe

[sidewinder]

Yes, it’s the Prestige 24000 series twofer. US version.

[sidewinder]

[HutchFan]

Helen Merrill / Dick Katz - A Shade of Difference (Landmark)

Originally released on Milestone in 1968.  This is my first listen. Just picked it up today.

Really digging it, so far.

 

[Chuck Nessa]

When I moved back to Chicago in 1975 Don DeMichael (a hero for me) asked me to join the board of the rejuvenated Jazz Institute of Chicago. Helen was a member of the board. She was an involved member until she moved away. Nothing but "props" from me.

[soulpope]

11 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Helen Merrill / Dick Katz - A Shade of Difference (Landmark)

Originally released on Milestone in 1968.  This is my first listen. Just picked it up today.

Really digging it, so far.

 

Hard to go wrong with Helen Merrill ....

[sidewinder]

Got that one on the Mosaic Single. Another one to dig out !

[sidewinder]

[Niko]

 

[clifford_thornton]

7 hours ago, sidewinder said:

Got that one on the Mosaic Single. Another one to dig out !

yeah, beautiful album.

Now:

Green On Red -- Gravity Talks -- (Slash, US)

[HutchFan]

Al Haig with Jamil Nasser - Interplay (SeaBreeze, 1976)

Lovely duets.

 

[HutchFan]

Mike Wofford - Scott Joplin: Interpretations '76 (Flying Dutchman)

[clifford_thornton]

The Family of Apostolic -- (Vanguard Apostolic, US)

[HutchFan]

Claude Williamson Trio - La Fiesta (Discovery)