Hardbopjazz Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 (edited) I have a database where I keep track of all my music. One field is birth date of musicians. I decided to add a new field caledl Date_of_death. When I run the query, it first returned a number of 83%. I decieded to remove all the classical music from the query and just leave in jazz recordings, the number dropped to 72%. Wow, I can't ever see that number ever going down, just up. I have to begin listening to more new musicians. Edited August 16, 2004 by Hardbopjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 I don't know what percentage of my music is by dead people. I know it must be quite high. When friends ask me who I like, musically, I often reply, "Most everybody I like is dead." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 i hear dead people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted August 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 i hear dead people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 ..........add to that 72% another 10-15% who aren't feeling so good.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 (edited) Given that more than 72% of recorded jazz was probably made by dead people, your collection apparently has a bias toward the living. Edited August 16, 2004 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted August 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 (edited) ..........add to that 72% another 10-15% who aren't feeling so good.......... So true. I saw the Heath brothers last night, and Percy wasn't there. Someone aked Jimmy Heath where's Percy, Jimmy said he was under the weather.Hopefully that just means something minor. I am planning to see the Heath Brothers again the Wednesday, hopefull he'll be there. They will be at Grant's tomb. A free concert, located at 116 street in NYC. Edited August 16, 2004 by Hardbopjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 i hear dead people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdogus Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 72% of my music is by dead people... I assume this means "now-dead", rather than "dead at the time of recording". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 "dead at the time of recording". Yes, these sessions leave much to be desired, although there is an admirable use of space in the solos. And the rhythm section comping/accompaniment is very sparse. But the studio smells a little stanky. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzkrow Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Another interesting calculation would be "How much of your music collection was recorded between 1955-1967?" I'm guessing 75%+ of my collection is from those Golden Years. Shows you where hard bop ranks with me...and many other collectors here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Another interesting calculation would be "How much of your music collection was recorded between 1955-1967?" I'm guessing 75%+ of my collection is from those Golden Years. Shows you where hard bop ranks with me...and many other collectors here. So if I agree with what you said, and I was born in 1958, will I be dead soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzkrow Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 (edited) NAH, This music will live on FOREVER. You've got at least another 40 yrs to enjoy it. Isn't it strange that this 10-15 yr period of music stands out so strongly in 85+ yr history of jazz. IMHO, although the 70's till now produced some memorable music, it just doesn't compare. It can't be just me-born in 1953-but we've got folks here born in the 70's and 80's, who get just as excited as I do when unreleased material, i.e. the recent Andrew Hill Connoisseur, is found/released. Maybe that is why Criss Cross is so admired for their hard boppish new Releases. Edited August 16, 2004 by jazzkrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Well, I checked my highly detailed database, and fully 100% of the jazz musicians in my collection are dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAL Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 With the passing of quite a few of the older jazz musicians in the past 2-3 years, mine is probably at least 95%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 I don't mind listening to dead guys play there own music, and I especially enjoy hearing living people play their own music . It's the live ones trying to play like the dead ones that bugs the piss out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue-note-ojc Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Most of mine are dead people. I have not done the research to get to the exact number or percentage, but the musicians who appear most frequently in my database are Lee Morgan, Paul Chambers, Wynton Kelly and Art Blakey. All dead. The unfortunate thing is that the jazz lifestyle caused so many of them to die so young. What a waste!! Regarding the question of what percentage of your records are between 1955 and 1967, I did not check to see how many were pre-1955. I do have some Gillespie, Charlie Parker, Monk and even Blakey prior to 1955. But the 1967 date tells more about one's collection being concentrated in the era prior to the decline of our hardbop heroes. I have 503 jazz CD's and only 41 were recorded after 1967. That means 92% were pre-1968! Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 I imagine that my collection is similar, though there's no way I could calculate a percentage like you guys have. In my case, I became interested in jazz in 1966, and over the years I have been purchasing the music I would have liked to have purchased when I was young! So with the passing of time, I'm still here, but they're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Hey Hardbopjazz, does that mean you were at Newport on Saturday? I was there myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
take5 Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 This thread makes me want to estimate a similar calculation of dead people, but I'm not sure how to count something like the Grateful Dead or the Allman Bros, where only some of them are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 This thread is more fun than an open casket funeral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted August 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Hey Hardbopjazz, does that mean you were at Newport on Saturday? I was there myself. No, I couldn't make it Saturday. I did see the Heath Brothers at Lincoln center over the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted January 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) Gald to say the number hasn't done up much at all in a year and a half since I first started this thread a year and a half ago. 73.9% as of Sunday January 29, 2005. Edited January 30, 2006 by Hardbopjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Well, I checked my highly detailed database, and fully 100% of the jazz musicians in my collection are dead! So I take it you don't have either of the organissimo CDs?!? FOR SHAME!!! I don't mind listening to dead guys play there own music, and I especially enjoy hearing living people play their own music . It's the live ones trying to play like the dead ones that bugs the piss out of me. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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