Tjazz Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 (edited) Lets see, I buy these guys CDs, since they still release new stuff and I usually see their CDs in used CD stores: Don Byron Buddy Defranco Ken Peplowski Dr White Alvin Batiste Eddie Daniels Haven't heard of the others or seen them in used CD stores. I'm interested in the others. I'll keep my eye open for Perry Robinson and Bobby Gordon CD/LPs. Edited October 12, 2004 by Tjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooter Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 For that seductive timbre, I remember Vic Ash playing Good Bait on an EP I had many years ago. Never heard the like since for tone. Wish I could hear it again although sometimes revisiting the past can be disappointing. Just like to put a word in for Sam Most too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 ....hey, you guys forgot Woody Allen ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rat Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 What's the general opinion on Paquito D'Rivera's clarinet playing -- those he plays it only on Cuban folklore/pop that I know of. --eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Amongst the currently active I gotta go with Perry Robinson, and not just 'cause he's the only one I've played with. But he did sound damn good when I was standing elbow to elbow with him getting blown off the stage! Heck of a nice guy too. If living is the test, Artie Shaw. All time? Sidney B, Johnny Dodds & Pee Wee are all up there for me, John Carter too. Second your thoughts about Shaw if only being alive is the test. Interesting about your apparent regard for Dodds. I recall Shaw - who could be mighty off-putting with his frankness - severely putting down Dodds in print while stating that for that period Jimmy Noone was his personal favorite on clarinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Shaw on Dodds is a nice example of why the views on other musicians of very talented, even genius-level, musicians can't always be taken to the bank. What Shaw was striving for and achieved on the clarinet was so different from what Dodds was striving for and achieved that there could be, at least in Shaw's view, no common ground -- especially on an instrument that a musician who was oriented as Shaw was had to see in terms of either proper or gravely flawed technique. Artie on Dodds was like Jascha Heifitz faced with Stuff Smith (though maybe Jascha might have been hip enough to get what Stuff was up to). I think Shaw said similar things about Pee Wee Russell. I certainly recall a DB Blindfold Test in which reedman Dick Johnson, who led the band Shaw fronted in the '80s, said that Russell couldn't play the clarinet. Fortunately, we're in a position (I hope) where we can see the value in Dodds, Shaw, and Russell -- different as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 The Shaw quote on PeeWee that I'm aware of is "he played better clarinet than guys who played clarinet better". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Shaw thinks Tesch was crap too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Marty, Larry, et al: Sorry to take so long to respond. It's not surprising that Artie dissed J. Dodds, but it doesn't really bother me. Shaw had strong opinions 'bout all sorts of things and a guy who played that well and then hung it up for 50 years (not just quit the business, but as I understand it, quit playing totally) has got issues. Nice that he likes Noone who Goodman also admired, funny since Shaw complained that Goodman thought it was all about playing the clarinet, missing the larger musical picture, much less the cultural one. It's like when you have two friends that don't particularly like each other; it's their prob, not mine. shaw also said some pretty strong things about Klezmer, but I don't let that stop me from enjoying it or him... Shaw certainly wouldn't have been as nice about my playing as Perry R. was but that doesn't mean that Perry can't play... Eliptically, Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 To throw out another name, I've heard some nice playing from Marty Ehrlich... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 ...and I'll throw out another vote for "Funk Dumpling." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Dammit, I miss John Carter. One more vote for Perry Robinson here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 I'd like to mention Putte Wickman. I don't have much by him in my collection, but I enjoyed his playing on a trio album with John Lewis and Red Mitchell. As I write this, I realize that I don't know if he's still alive. If he is, I'll vote for him (other) as a favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 i'm too lazy to reread this thread did anybody mention denis colin (bass clarinetist) B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 I voted for DeFranco. But all-time favorite? Probably a tie between Shaw and Pee Wee Russell. Both very rewarding in quite different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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