Musicians who quit the game

[catesta]

Thanks for that.

[Jazz Kat]

If i played jazz i would quit, anyone can show off by playing notes really fast...but not everyone can write a good song.

what?

[tonym]

If i played jazz i would quit, anyone can show off by playing notes really fast...but not everyone can write a good song.

Not another one.....

[keberobeats88]

Haha and the worst part is, we can't win with this kind of snob. I guarantee that if someone tried to explain to him that he doesn't know what he's talking about, he'd call them a typical elitist jazz fan.

[Jazz Kat]

Eh, I put up with these people everyday in school. Not here too now!!

[rostasi]

If i played jazz i would quit, anyone can show off by playing notes really fast...but not everyone can write a good song.

[Joe G]

I think he's just admitting that he's one of those who can't write a good song.

:rsly:

[.:.impossible]

Honestly, though, I think that is a real challenge for the newer generations of musicians out there. You know Joe. I'm looking at your disc now and you are credited on quite a few compositions.

Too many good musicians are looking to modern pop/rock for "the new standard." I've been saying this for a little while, and I'm new to all of this music anyway (less than a decade) so what do I know, but I say "the new standard" is ORIGINAL COMPOSITION.

[Jazz Kat]

Which ones would you say are the good ones?

[.:.impossible]

Me?

The good ones are over there. Beside the ones that aren't so bad. See? Right across from the great ones back there by the thing. Those are the good ones.

That's what I'd say.

[7/4]

Me?

The good ones are over there. Beside the ones that aren't so bad. See? Right across from the great ones back there by the thing. Those are the good ones.

That's what I'd say.

Damm straight.

[Jazz Kat]

Ya try and ask a question...

[.:.impossible]

Seriously, what was the question. I don't think I'm the only one who doesn't know what you were asking. And sorry in advance for the vague answer, but 7/4 knew EXACTLY what I was talking about. Maybe we should ask him.

Hey 7, which ones would you say are the good ones? I used to like the green ones, then I realized they all tasted the same and the color didn't matter anymore.

[Jazz Kat]

Honestly, though, I think that is a real challenge for the newer generations of musicians out there. You know Joe. I'm looking at your disc now and you are credited on quite a few compositions.

Too many good musicians are looking to modern pop/rock for "the new standard." I've been saying this for a little while, and I'm new to all of this music anyway (less than a decade) so what do I know, but I say "the new standard" is ORIGINAL COMPOSITION.

Sorry, didnt think it was that close in complexity to rocket science.

Which good musicians took the standard, rock/pop.

[scottb]

Which good musicians took the standard, rock/pop.

[Jazz Kat]

Ask the person who said it first.

[scottb]

I understood the first question quite clearly.

[Brad]

I think some people who quit did ok like Stan Levey. Didn't Benny Golson do ok when he was away from the music scene. It must be rough nowadays to have make your living from jazz.

[Jazz Kat]

And Dave Bailey and Pete La Rocca. Bailey left jazz to become a pilot? And La Rocca left it to become an atterney.

[Michael Fitzgerald]

Bailey was only a pilot for five years (he had previously flown in WWII). He's now the head of Jazzmobile. Benny Golson was never away from music - he was scoring for film and TV in Hollywood.

Mike

[nemo7]

game?

[Soulstation1]

nemo7 is lame, but what different do it make and who cares who

Edited March 20, 2005 by Soulstation1

[Jazz Kat]

game?

I'm getting tired of these one word replies that don't make sense. Unless you are saying that jazz music is not a game..

[nemo7]

ok

[SGUD missile]

Heres an attempt at a serious answer:

AS someone who literally worked in the music business as a drummer/arranger /composer / producer my eintire 40 year working life, I can state several truths ( at least they are for me ):

1. Very little of what I did had any connection with "jazz" per se ..aside from the odd rehearsal band or session ..

2. To enable yourself tot survive in the above career, most of what you are forced to play or write will not be to your taste, but you still have to learn how to deal with it effectively or you won't have any clients.

3. the crappy music you can learn to deal with on autopilot ..it's the" Clients" that will eventually get to you.

4. Taking 1,2,and 3 into consideration, burnout is pretty well nigh a sure thing.

However:

5. After retiring, relocating to the NW, and after five years totally away from music, after my late wife died, I found myself actually "interested" in jazz again through some coaching at a couple jazz clinics. Eventually, I started writng and producing again , but only for "fun" ..stuff I WANTED to do. (no clients )

Now I can honestly say, I do have the greatest "hobby" in the world ( and one that I'm already experienced with and merely going through a period of re-acquaintment with ..and I'm gradually stretching the barriers again ..just like when I was 20 and learning jazz the first time.

All this has led to a new "career" as a jazz producer ..and the issuing of my first ( so far ) CD in my 40 some year career as a musician, as well as several other FUN jazz projects along the line.

true story ..