jay2b2 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 Hi - This photo is being auctioned on Ebay (not by me) with an asking price of $20,000. Can anyone ID who is with Bird and when/where it might be from? Thanks. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 Hey, I figure I'm lucky enough to recognize the trumpet player... Quote
sheldonm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 ...certainly not worth the asking price! Quote
brownie Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 ...certainly not worth the asking price! ← Asking price is ridiculous... Venue seems to be the Spotlite Club in New York where Bird played in late 1945 (from another photo taken at the club that is in Ken Vail's 'Bird Diary'). The other photo has Bird playing with Miles and Dexter. The trumpet player here is no problem. Don't think it's Manne or Levey on drums. And not Lucky on tenor. Piano player is not visible enough. Quote
marcello Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 I thought the tenor looked a bit like Lockjaw Davis. Quote
Clunky Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 could the pianist be Dodo, so this could be a west coast club in 1946 ? Quote
brownie Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 No Dodo... I'm positive, the venue is the Spotlite Club on 52nd Street! Quote
Christiern Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 $20,000 is a totally unrealistic asking price for this photo. Quote
Bright Moments Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 (edited) No Dodo... I'm positive, the venue is the Spotlite Club on 52nd Street! ← then the photo dates prior to february 1947 as the spotlight was closed by then. since charlie was in california in 1946 i am guessing that the photo is from early 1945. Edited June 18, 2005 by Bright Moments Quote
brownie Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 I would say late 1945 before Diz and Bird went East. Bird is obviously in his pre-Lover Man days! The similar photo (with Miles, Dexter, Stan Levey) is also in 'Miles' Diary', another Ken Vail book. The text to the Diary mentions that the Charlie Parker group (with Miles Davis) moves down the (52nd) street - in October 1945 - from the Three Deuces to the Spotlite Club. 'Dexter Gordon comes in on tenor sax, and Sir Charles Thompson and Leonard Gaskin replace (Al) Haig and (Curley) Russell.' Then in November 1945: 'When the Spotlite Club is temporarily closed by a police crackdown on 52nd Street, Charlie Parker moves his combo up to Minton's Playhouse in Harlem. The same photo (with Miles and Dexter) is also in the 'To Bird With Love' opus by Francis Paudras and Charlie Parker. Bad quality copy, credited 'courtesy Dexter Gordon/Maxine Gregg'. The club where the Bird/Miles/Dexter photo was taken is identified as the Spotlite. The year given for it is 1944, clearly one year off... The eBay seller from Kansas City is also trying to get $25,000 with a well-know Charlie Parker/Miles photo copyrighted by Duncan Schiedt: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbootsy612 Some people have no shame Quote
JSngry Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 I thought the tenor looked a bit like Lockjaw Davis. ← My sentiments as well. Quote
JSngry Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 Could that be Shelly Manne on drums? ← My sentiments as well. Quote
Christiern Posted June 18, 2005 Report Posted June 18, 2005 "The eBay seller from Kansas City is also trying to get $25,000 with a well-know Charlie Parker/Miles photo copyrighted by Duncan Schiedt: E-bay should be hipped to this crook. Quote
Brad Posted June 19, 2005 Report Posted June 19, 2005 This guy must be off his rocker. Who would pay for a suspect photo from a guy with no feedback. Quote
JSngry Posted June 19, 2005 Report Posted June 19, 2005 Who would pay for a suspect photo from a guy with no feedback. ← http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...opic=20138&st=0 Quote
wolff Posted June 19, 2005 Report Posted June 19, 2005 Who would pay for a suspect photo from a guy with no feedback. ← http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...opic=20138&st=0 ← That Jim!! Sharp as a tack, I tell ya. Quote
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