mikeweil Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 I wish he would have made more records as a leader for Blue Note. Hell, he made eight! ← C'mon Jim - you know I was talkin' about the 1960's!!! Of course I have all the others and love 'em, but that's a totally different story. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 BTW - my copy of the 1987 Blue Note CD doesn't have any liner notes, just the credits .... ..... but there were some on the LP? I can't remember. If anyone posted them here I'be very grateful. ← No notes. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 Thanks, Chuck! No liner notes - sounds like a reply to Coltrane who stated on some Impulse LP he would prefer to do an album without any notes, but never got around to get it done that way! Tony kind of said, okay, just do it! Another observation: On my CD, the last tracks sounds like it was edited (i.e. cut off) in the middle of the bass solo at 10:25 - sounds strange. At 19 minutes, they should have some playing time left for side two, even in 1965! Quote
Guy Berger Posted July 19, 2005 Author Report Posted July 19, 2005 Another observation: On my CD, the last tracks sounds like it was edited (i.e. cut off) in the middle of the bass solo at 10:25 - sounds strange. At 19 minutes, they should have some playing time left for side two, even in 1965! ← I've wondered about the abrupt ending as well. Guy Quote
Dan Gould Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 OK, here's my first exposure to this album: I was working at Mello 105 in Tallahassee, a soft Adult Contemporary station. I had my own jazz show on Saturday nights. Tony Williams died suddenly, and I decided to dedicate a section of that weekend's show to him. I knew nothing of this album but picked it up at Vinyl Fever. After listening to the CD, and not wanting to lose my job, I decided the best thing to do was to note his passing and play a couple of tunes from his second tenure with BN and leave it at that. After several more listenings after the show aired, I sold the CD back, which I am sure will come as a mind-blowing shock to all of you who are familiar with my tastes. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 I've always liked the fact that it ends abruptly. I think that's the point - it makes one consider everything that led up to it maybe a little more carefully. Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 I'm going to go and re-read the liner notes now. ← ← Glad somebody got it. I've always tried to think of this one as a furthering of "Lifetime", maybe conceptually, but try as I might I won't any longer. This set is still a tough one for me, but then again so is OTL for some reason. Yet "Love Song" is still a standout beauty! Quote
Guy Berger Posted July 19, 2005 Author Report Posted July 19, 2005 Short review of the tracks: 1) "Extras" -- This is the only tune to feature solos by both saxophonists. Herbie lays out. Sam's duet with Gary, near the end, is one of the highlights of the album. (It's a shame they didn't record a sequel in 1969, when Wayne's playing had "caught up" to where Sam was in 1965.) 3) "From Before" -- This tune is a showcase for Herbie. It opens with those really weird trills by Sam and Wayne, punctuated by Herbie's piano chords. After a brief collective improvisation by the saxophonists, the rhythm trio gets to work. Some of my favorite "outside" playing by Herbie, reminds me a little of Paul Bley. There is another short collective improv by the saxophonists, and then Herbie wraps it up with a brief but brilliant solo coda. 4) "Love Song" -- The only real melody on the album. Sam plays beautifully on this. Herbie is a little reminiscent of McCoy during parts of his solo. 5) "Tee" -- Sam appears only briefly, during the initial statement of the melody. Wayne turns in a solid solo here but not one of his best. It would be awesome if BN recorded a reunion of the Spring alumni -- aside from Tony they're all still around. Guy Quote
7/4 Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 I haven't heard this in a while and this thread inspired me to give it a spin. I'm glad I did. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 Anyone have the story on why "Love Song" was later retitled as "Love Stone"? I believe it was on the Branford Marsalis "Renaissance" album. Mike Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 Anyone have the story on why "Love Song" was later retitled as "Love Stone"? I believe it was on the Branford Marsalis "Renaissance" album. Mike ← Might be an attempt to establish a new copyright. Just a guess. Quote
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