Hardbopjazz Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 (edited) Any guesses to what would have been the best jazz selling album for these lables? I just selected 11 lables. My guesses for some are below. Not sure for all. But I would say coltrane has 3. 1. Savoy- (I would say something by Charlie Parker) 2. Prestige- ? 3. Riverside- ? 4. Argo- But Not for Me 5. Milestones- ? 6. Blue Note- Blue Train 7. Pablo- ? 8. Impulse- Love Supreme 9. Columbia- Time out or 'Round about Midnight 10. Atlantic- Giant Steps 11. Verve- (I would say something by Charlie Parker) Edited August 23, 2005 by Hardbopjazz Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 1. Savoy- (I would say something by Charlie Parker) I don't know how well Savoy's gospel records sold. 2. Prestige- ? James Moody: Moody's Mood For Love was a top-seller early on. 3. Riverside- ? A Cannonball Adderley perhaps. 4. Argo- But Not for Me Could be. 5. Milestone- ? Dunno - that's not an easy one. 6. Blue Note- Blue Train Yes, I would agree. 7. Pablo- ? Another tough one - plenty of big artists, but not their most popular period. 8. Impulse- Love Supreme Yes, I would agree. 9. Columbia- Time out or 'Round about Midnight Not with Michael Jackson and Bruce Springsteen around. 10. Atlantic- Giant Steps You gotta be kidding me - with Ray Charles, Led Zeppelin, and Genesis? 11. Verve- (I would say something by Charlie Parker) No chance - Stan Getz: Girl From Ipanema is a contender, though. Or are we limiting to "jazz" issues - in which case, define jazz...... Mike Quote
Aggie87 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Or are we limiting to "jazz" issues - in which case, define jazz...... Mike ← That's key I think as well. Also, do you include things such as US3 and Norah Jones for Blue Note? I thought I'd read here somewhere that these both had surpassed Blue Train in terms of units sold. I'd also take a stab that Diana Krall would be up there for Verve. Quote
RDK Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 For Columbia - and yes, limiting to "jazz" - I'd figure either Time Out, something by Miles (KOB or BB before Round About Midnight though) or possibly Concert by the Sea. For Atlantic - I dunno, but maybe Charles Lloyd or Herbie Mann?? Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Posted August 23, 2005 (edited) Mike, I said best selling jazz album. I didn't want to include other styles of music. As far as defining jazz, mostly what we discuss here I would have to say. Edited August 23, 2005 by Hardbopjazz Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Sorry - in that case, Kind Of Blue is the best seller for Miles over the long run. Time Out has only gone Platinum. KOB is triple. For Atlantic, it's Les McCann & Eddie Harris: Swiss Movement. Mike Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Posted August 23, 2005 I forgot about Swiss Movement. I believe "compared to what" did make it on to the pop charts. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 In the long run, yes, Blue Train has been named as the best seller. Mike Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 How about Strata East?? My guess would be the Tolliver's "Music Inc + Big Band" (the one with the white cover). Or were there ever any "hits" on the label that I'm otherwise unaware of?? Quote
brownie Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 The label is not listed but I am pretty sure Shelly Manne's 'My Fair Lady' was Contemporary's best seller. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 How about Strata East?? My guess would be the Tolliver's "Music Inc + Big Band" (the one with the white cover). Or were there ever any "hits" on the label that I'm otherwise unaware of?? ← The only Strata East record to have significant sales was Gil Scott-Heron's Winter In America. It was huge by jazz standards and almost brought the label down. I think the Slugs records outsold the Music Inc record mentioned. Quote
JSngry Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 For Prestige LPs, I'd think that something by Gene Ammons (Angel Eyes?) or Groove Holmes (Misty?) might be a contender. Riverside - how about Mongo's album that had "Watermelon Man"? Memphis Underground was a pretty big hit in its day as well, but, yeah, I think that Swiss Movement was probably bigger. And Getz/Gilberto was huge. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Concerning Prestige, Groove Holmes' Soul Message (and other couplings with Misty) was gigantic in the last half of the '60s and I didn't witness any other Prestige session selling in such quantities. No telling what time has done to the sales numbers vs. other "classics". Quote
WD45 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 What was the biggest seller on the Nessa Label? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 What was the biggest seller on the Nessa Label? ← this is my best guess, without digging out old files: 1 AEC - People In Sorrow 2 AEC - Les Stances A Sophie 3 Roscoe Mitchell - Nonaah 4 Air - Air Time 5 Warne Marsh - All Music Quote
GA Russell Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Regarding Verve, I can imagine that Getz/Gilberto has outsold Jazz Samba over the long run, but Jazz Samba was #1 on the LP charts for a while, so it was very big at its time. Regarding Prestige, Misty was a huge 45, but the album sales would have been split between Soul Message and the album Misty. My bet is that over the long run Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet is their biggest selling album. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 (edited) In case you wondered, "A Charlie Brown Christmas" takes the top spot for Fantasy. Getz/Gilberto (rec. 1963) was certified gold in 1965. No gold status for Jazz Samba, according to the RIAA website. Mike Edited August 23, 2005 by Michael Fitzgerald Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 The only Strata East record to have significant sales was Gil Scott-Heron's Winter In America. It was huge by jazz standards and almost brought the label down. ← Splain me that one, Chuck, if you don't mind -- thanks!! Quote
WD45 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 What was the biggest seller on the Nessa Label? ← this is my best guess, without digging out old files: 1 AEC - People In Sorrow 2 AEC - Les Stances A Sophie 3 Roscoe Mitchell - Nonaah 4 Air - Air Time 5 Warne Marsh - All Music ← I thought it might be #2, as that is the one I have seen the most of in that list. Quote
jlhoots Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 I would think that Ella / Louis sold plenty on Verve. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 I thought it might be #2, as that is the one I have seen the most of in that list. ← It's really a tie. Year to year one would lead, then the other. Quote
montg Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Today, these are the top 10 best sellers from the Verve label on amazon--this is a barometer of the industry, bestsellers etc. and it's pretty sad. 1. Rock Swings (Audio CD) ~ Paul Anka Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 2. Dreaming Wide Awake (Audio CD) ~ Lizz Wright Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 3. Brazilian Girls (Audio CD) ~ Brazilian Girls Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 4. The Girl In The Other Room [ENHANCED] (Audio CD) ~ Diana Krall Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 5. That's What I Say: John Scofield Plays the Music of Ray Charles (Audio CD) ~ John Scofield Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 6. Hummin' To Myself (Audio CD) ~ Linda Ronstadt Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 7. Salt (Audio CD) ~ Lizz Wright Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) Usually ships in 24 hours 8. Verve Remixed, Vol. 3 (Audio CD) ~ Various Artists Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 9. Verve Remixed, Vol. 2 (Audio CD) ~ Various Artists Avg. Customer Rating: (Rate this item) 10. Twentysomething (Audio CD) ~ Jamie Cullum Avg. Customer Rating: Quote
montg Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 and using the same mehtodology, these are the top 10 sellers from prestige, on amazon..Miles might be disappointed to know he's still making a lot of money for 'the man'. 1. Cookin' With the Miles Davis Quintet (20 Bit Mastering) [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] (Audio CD) ~ Miles Davis Quintet, Miles Davis 2. Saxophone Colossus (20 Bit Mastering) [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] (Audio CD) ~ Sonny Rollins 3. Workin With the Miles Davis Quintet (20 Bit Mastering) [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] (Audio CD) ~ Miles Davis 4. Miles Davis & the Modern Jazz Giants (20 Bit Mastering) [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] (Audio CD) ~ Miles Davis 5. Walkin' (20 Bit Mastering) [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] (Audio CD) ~ Miles Davis 6. Miles Davis Plays for Lovers (Audio CD) ~ Miles Davis 7. Ipi Ntombi: The African Music Celebration [CAST RECORDING] [iMPORT] (Audio CD) ~ Original Cast Recording 8. Traditional Music of India (Audio CD) ~ Ali Akbar Khan Original Release Date: April 18, 1995 9. Billy Taylor Trio (Audio CD) ~ Billy Taylor 10. The Complete Prestige/Bluesville Recordings [bOX SET] [LIVE] (Audio CD) ~ Lightnin' Hopkins Original Release Date: October 17, 1991 Quote
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