Recent Down Loads And Additions From E - Music

[okierambler]

Thanks for the clarification, mizee. My point was that after paying its vendors (IODA and other distributors/record companies), eMusic was losing money or just breaking even. That's what the former president (CEO?) who left last year said in several interviews. And you're right, five years of loses is not unusual for any start up business. But, I believe eMusic has been around for about ten years (in one form or another). At some point you have to go into the black or the investors back out. (I've experienced this first hand, its not fun when the banks pull the plug.)

I agree, the royalties should add up faster when buying is done at volume. But that has to be balanced out with the retailer's need to make a profit. Maybe having Sony (and, I'm sure, the other "Big Three" in the future) on board will give them the bottom line boost they need through "bulk" sales of mass market music. Hopefully, that will negate the need for more price hikes in the near future. And, if they're making a profit, maybe they can afford to do some serious market research before making "big" changes. Wow! That would really be something!

Right now, they're still a bargain - especially if you comparison shop and buy those "album only" cuts from Amazon or LaLa (when the math works in your favor).

And, personally, I think eMusic needs to give us "Yanks" a crack at ECM and those other labels now available on the other side of the pond. That new Steve Kuhn Trio with Joe Lovano is a dandy!

[Tom Storer]

Let me just reiterate that Europe doesn't get ECM--the UK does, but not the continent.

At least I think so. I'm in France and my eMusic page says "eMusic Europe": ECM is not available (with the inexplicable exception of Miroslav Vitous's "Universal Syncopations," where the label is given as ECM/Kontor). UK posters here, however, report getting ECM with their eMusic subscription.

And North America gets labels we don't get over here, too! I can't remember which ones but I know I've been frustrated by this in the past.

Edited July 13, 2009 by Tom Storer

[mjzee]

I don't think you and I disagree by much, okierambler. eMusic might still be "a bargain" compared with iTunes or Amazon, but only if you intended to buy those titles anyway. And my decision to quit is definitely informed by the fact that there's not that much more I need to download from them. That could change if they began carrying ECM in the U.S. - then I could see my 50 tracks for $20 (what they wanted to switch me to) buying me 6 - 7 albums a month. But I don't think they'll carry ECM as long as they're distributed by Universal in the US.

[edski]

James Blood Ulmer's "Odyssey" album is now available via iTunes ($8.) and Amazon ($10.). Was this recently re-released on CD? Or is this a positive sign that some previously OOP albums will see the light of day as digital downloads?

emusic has the Odyssey band reunion "Back in Time" which I enjoy a lot. Curious about "Free lancing" and "Black Rock" too.

[John L]

They really bungled the roll-out, especially since they misrepresented it as being tied to the Sony deal. I think this would be a great case study in "how not to do it" for someone working on their MBA or an advanced marketing degree.

That indeed appears to be the problem. If emusic would have answered my letter with what you wrote in your post, I would have kept my membership. I even spelled it out for them in the letter. I told them that I would keep my membership if they would only confirm to me in writing that they are doing this out of financial necessity, and will remain committed the smaller labels that are valued by customers like myself. They sent me back the stupid form letter that states quite plainly that they are doing this in order to afford Sony and other major labels. So I quit emusic.

Edited July 14, 2009 by John L

[Tom Storer]

They sent me back the stupid form letter

Rather predictably, I would think. They're probably getting many times more email complaints and queries in the wake of all this than they ever planned for, so I can imagine a few offices full of harassed wage slaves each with a backlog of hundreds of emails to clear out of the pipe. Their eyes glaze over, they glance very briefly and with little interest at the detailed critiques and nuanced requests for information, then they send the form letter and piss off customers looking for individual attention and respect. Meanwhile, management congratulates itself on not varying from the core message decided at some point by a confused committee. Communication is the name of the game!

[captainwrong]

I don't think you and I disagree by much, okierambler. eMusic might still be "a bargain" compared with iTunes or Amazon, but only if you intended to buy those titles anyway. And my decision to quit is definitely informed by the fact that there's not that much more I need to download from them. That could change if they began carrying ECM in the U.S. - then I could see my 50 tracks for $20 (what they wanted to switch me to) buying me 6 - 7 albums a month. But I don't think they'll carry ECM as long as they're distributed by Universal in the US.

Yeah, that's me too. I'd add to that eMusic may still be a bargain vs. iTunes/Amazon on some or most things, but the combination of new pricing and album only tracks means I have to do more homework rather than just hitting download. That combination means there are going to be many times when buying elsewhere, or even getting a used copy of the actual CD is going to be cheaper.

[Noj]

Yeah, the "album only" tracks are particularly lame.

[okierambler]

Yeah, I'd rather just hit download too. And I'm not defending the boneheaded way eMusic handled all this. I don't use that site because of the people there (all though I'm sure they're perfectly decent folks), but because I get to sample a lot of interesting music at what's still a "fairly" reasonable price.

I spent more than 20 years as a professional journalist before changing careers. Facts are important to me. The only reason I jumped into this discussion was to try to clarify some points based on what I'd read in the business press.

If eMusic has offended you to the point that you don't want to shop there anymore, that's your choice. Go in peace. If you're planning on staying, then use them wisely.

I originally dropped into this forum to see what musical gems other jazz fans were digging up on eMusic. There are still plenty there to be uncovered. I wish we could get back to that.

Have y'all heard this?????

Misfiled under "Rew Gress," but a fine session never the less.

[Soulstation1]

June

BOOBY BROOM – BOBBY BROOM PLAYS FOR MONK

BOBBY SHEW – SALSA CALIENTE

CHRISTIAN ROVER – LIVE IN CONCERT

CLAUS RAIBLE – INTRODUCING THE EXCITING CLAUS RAIBLE TRIO

DRED SCOTT TRIO – LIVE AT THE ROCKWOOD MUSIC HALL

EARTTH, WIND & FIRE - HAT’S THE WAY OF THE WORLD ALIVE IN '75

ERIC DOLPHY WITH BOOKER LITTLE – AT THE FIVE SPO, VOL 2 RM

FAST 3 - 3's COMPANY

JOE CUBA - BANG! BANG! PUSH, PUSH, PUSH

JOEY DeFRANCESCO - FINGER POPPIN' – CELEBRATING THE MUSIC OF HORACE SILVER

JOHN COLTRANE – COLTRANE RM

LONNIE GASPERINI ORGAN TRIO – NORTH BEACH BLUES

MARK HOLLAND'S RHYTHM FORCE - ON THE RHODES

THE BONGOLIAN – OUTER BONGOLIA

THE JACKSONS – THE ESSENTIAL JACKSONS

VA

JALAPENO SOUND SYSTEM VOL. 2

PANAMA!2 LATIN SOUNDS, CUMBIA TROPICAL & Amp; CALYPSO FUNK ON THE ISTHMUS 1967-77

[Soulstation1]

http://www.emusic.com/artist/Iron-Maiden-M...d/12270078.html

For Iron Maiden Fans Only

[Soulstation1]

http://www.emusic.com/album/Fast-3-3-s-Com...d/11474826.html

Download ASAP

Edited July 14, 2009 by Soulstation1

[save0904]

Don Cherry Live At Cafe Montmatre Vol. 3

2 Tracks ~50min music

[Hoppy T. Frog]

The real trick here is to find albums that maximize your credits. Some labels seem to have a one track=one download formula, which sucks when you want to download an album that has 22 tracks. However, I've noticed that Black Saint/Soul Note titles, just as an example, have a more reasonable pricing structure that an album will be a maximum of 12 credits (or whatever), no matter the number of tracks.

I won't quit Emusic, mainly because I've got at least 300 albums in my want list, and more are being added all the time. I pity those who have run out of interesting looking albums. Try exploring a different genre, maybe?

[A Lark Ascending]

Well, look what turned up in the jazz new releases!

Straight to the unbelievable covers thread!

[Soulstation1]

Anyone ever have problem with deleting a emusic file?

Can't delete a folder with a single song for some reason

[A Lark Ascending]

It all seems to gave gone very strange since they put in the new buttons.

When I click to download an album I get a white screen. If I check album view nothing shows yet the credits have been subtracted.

To get at the music I have to go through my downloads and find my way back to the original album page, rehit the button (which has now changed colour and promises it will cost me no credits), click a window telling me the number of re-downloads is limited and then everything starts whirring!

After that it seems quicker - I no longer get the two tracks stalling and needing resuming.

Oh, and it won't let me delete anything in the saved items section. They vanish but reappear on refreshing!

Clearly lots of bugs in the system.

Edited July 27, 2009 by Bev Stapleton

[save0904]

Shelly Manne Shelly Manne And His Men At The Blackhawk Volume 1-5

[A Lark Ascending]

Shelly Manne Shelly Manne And His Men At The Blackhawk Volume 1-5

I too downloaded 2-5 after hearing the BBC programme (I already had 1). Marvellous music.

[mjzee]

For those interested, Amazon today only (Sunday 8/2) has the download for Coltrane's Interstellar Space for $2.99.

[BFrank]

For those interested, Amazon today only (Sunday 8/2) has the download for Coltrane's Interstellar Space for $2.99.

I was just about to post the same thing (but wasn't sure where to do it).

[okierambler]

Pretty good haul:

Baptiste Trotignon - "Share"

Bud Powell - "A Portrait of Theolonious"

Andy Sheppard - "Dancing Man & Woman"

Bobby Broom - "Plays Monk"

Louis Armstrong - "Plays W.C. Handy"

Nina Simone - "Essential" (Volumes 1 & 2)

Barb Jungr - "Every Grain of Sand" & "Just Like a Woman (Hymn to Nina)"

Shakti with John McLaughlin - "Handful of Beauty" & "Natural Elements"

[Soulstation1]

JULY

GEORGE BENSON – BODY TALK

MILES DAVIS – COMPLETE BITCHES BREW SESSIONS

MILES DAVIS – THE COMPLETE COLUMBIA STUDIO RECORDINGS OF THE MILES DAVIS QUINTET JANUARY 1965 TO JUNE 1968 (Discs 1-5)

DON DIEGO – A NEW BEGINNING (FREE)

LENA HORNE - STORMY WEATHER

IRON MAIDEN – LIVE AFTER DEATH

HORACE SILVER – SILVER’S BLUES

SLY & THE FAMILY STONE – LIFE

SLY & THE FAMILY STONE – GREATEST HITS (THANK YOU AND HOT TIME IN THE SUMMERTIME)

MATT WILSON – THAT’S GONNA LEAVE A MARK (FREE)

VA – KILL ROCK STARS SAMPLER 2009 (FREE)

VA – ROCK THE BELLS SIX YEARS OF LIVE HIP-HOP (FREE)

[A Lark Ascending]

Don't know how widespread this is in world terms, but the Basho label just appeared on UK e-music.

http://www.emusic.com/browse/l/b/-dbm/a/0-...00312898/0.html

A small label connected with a unit that organises concerts and tours in the UK. Focus tends to be on slightly lefy of centre jazz - not totally free, nor the currently hip punk-jazz. Mainly original compositions.

People like Julian Arguelles, Mark Lockheart, Chris Laurence, Liam Noble etc.

I think this Anglo-American collaboration would travel well:

And this is one of my favourite discs of the Noughties. Recommended if you like carefully composed jazz with the soloing emerging organically from the composition:

Edited August 21, 2009 by Bev Stapleton

[BFrank]

The Complete Columbia Studio Recordings Of The Miles Davis Quintet January 1965 To June 1968

by Miles Davis

Parental Advisory

Say what? "Parental Advisory"???