2006 MLB Thread

[Dave James]

OK, by popular demand, a.ka., Chris Olivarez, here's the National League's worst blunders by team:

1) What's the biggest blunder in Astros franchise history?

1971: Trading Joe Morgan (and others) to Astros for Lee May (and others)

As things developed, this would have been a bad deal for the Astros even if they'd kept Morgan.

1980: Missing J.R. Richard's warning signs

Could anybody have known that Richard was going to suffer a debilitating stroke?

1991: Trading Kenny Lofton and Dave Rohde to Indians for Eddie Taubensee and Willie Blair

Lofton's still playing; Taubensee isn't.

1997: Failing to protect Bobby Abreu in Expansion Draft

The Devil Rays have been ridiculed for trading Abreu to the Phillies after drafting him from the Astros, but the Astros shouldn't have let him get away in the first place.

2003: Didn't make a move and finished one game out of first place

Actually, they did make one move: they traded for Dan Miceli. But if they'd done a bit more, they'd probably have finished ahead of the Cubs.

2) What's the biggest blunder in Braves franchise history?

1975: Sold Joe Niekro to Astros for $35,000

They already had Joe's brother Phil, so maybe they figured they didn't need another of baseball's top knuckleballers (but Joe would win 173 more games).

1983: Traded for Len Barker, then signed him to long-term contract

Braves gave up Brett Butler and Brook Jacoby, then locked up Barker with new five-year deal.

1984: Signed free agent Bruce Sutter to six-year megadeal

For Ted Turner's $10 million, he got three seasons, 40 saves, 4.55 ERA.

2001: John Rocker

Enough said.

2002: Shifted Chipper Jones to left field in favor of Vinny Castilla

Yes, Castilla was a defensive upgrade, but that .268 OBP was a real killer.

3) What's the biggest blunder in Brewers franchise history?

1976: Traded catcher Darrell Porter and pitcher Jim Colborn to Royals for three spare parts

Colborn threw a no-hitter, and Porter immediately re-established himself as one of the game's top catchers.

1982-1984: Shifted Charlie Moore from catcher to right field

Because they absolutely, positively had to get all those walks (not) and power (not) into the lineup.

1984: Let Doug Jones get away

He skipped as minor-league free agent, signed with Indians, and finished with 303 saves.

1985: Drafted B.J. Surhoff with No. 1 overall pick

Surhoff was a good player, but Brewers could have picked Will Clark, Barry Larkin, or Barry Bonds.

1985: Let Tom Candiotti get away

Like Doug Jones, Candiotti was released on October 15, signed with Cleveland, and soon became something of a star.

4) What's the biggest blunder in Cardinals franchise history?

1957: Sold future Hall of Famer Hoyt Wilhelm to Indians, via waivers

This just happened to be the knuckleballer's worst season.

1972: Traded Steve Carlton to Phillies for Rick Wise

And all because Gussie Busch didn't want to pay Carlton an extra $10,000.

1972: Traded Larry Hisle to Twins for pitcher Wayne Granger

Granger won five more games in his career; Hisle later made two All-Star teams.

1974: Sold outfielder Jose Cruz to Astros

Given a chance to play, Cruz quickly became one of the league's best left fielders.

1991: Traded pitcher Ken Hill to Expos for Andres Galarraga

Pre-Rockies, Galarraga batted .243 and spent six weeks on DL; Hill won 41 games in three seasons with Montreal.

5) What's the biggest blunder in Cubs franchise history?

1930: Owner let manager Joe McCarthy get away

Less than one year after leading Cubs to World Series, McCarthy was fired; later he would win eight pennants with Yankees.

1935: Charlie Grimm let pitcher bat for himself

In the 1935 Series, Manager Grimm didn't pinch-hit for pitcher Larry French with a runner on third base, in the ninth inning of a tied Game 7. The Cubs didn't score, and lost in the bottom of the ninth.

1961-1962: Cubs convened College of Coaches

Five different coaches served as 'head coach' during the two seasons, and nobody had any idea who was running the show.

1964: Traded Lou Brock to Cardinals for pitcher Ernie Broglio

It didn't work out, but at the time of the deal nobody could have known that Brock would become a Hall of Famer and Broglio's arm would fall off.

2003: Dusty Baker doesn't call the bullpen

You can blame Bartman, but Baker shouldn't have left Prior in long enough to blow the lead in Game 6 of the NLCS.

6) What's the biggest blunder in Diamondbacks franchise history?

1996: Signing amateurs Travis Lee and John Patterson for $16 million

The two loophole free agents didn't come close to earning their massive signing bonuses.

1999: Using No. 4 overall draft pick on shortstop Corey Myers

Myers still hasn't reached the majors; later in the first round: Barry Zito and Ben Sheets.

2003: Signing Luis Gonzalez to three-year contract extension

A fine player, obviously, but committing $30 million through 2006 just didn't make sense for this franchise.

2003: Traded Curt Schilling to Red Sox for Casey Fossum, Brandon Lyon and Jorge de la Rosa

Maybe they had to trade him, and maybe they should have gotten more in return.

2004: Signing free agent Russ Ortiz to four-year, $33 million deal

This one looked bad at the time . . . and now it looks a lot worse.

7) What's the biggest blunder in Dodgers franchise history?

1982-1991: Lasorda overworking Valenzuela, Hershiser, and R. Martinez

All of them had Hall of Fame talent (or close) and all struggled after years of Lasorda's innings.

1990: Signing free agent Darryl Strawberry to five-year deal

Strawberry lasted only three seasons before being released.

1991: Trading John Wetteland and Tim Belcher to Reds for Eric Davis and Kip Gross

Both Wetteland and Belcher were better, alone, than Davis and Gross together.

1993: Trading Pedro Martinez for Delino DeShields

Everybody in Montreal considered the deal a salary dump. . .

2000: Signing Darren Dreifort for five years and $55 million

In the five seasons of the deal, Dreifort went 9-15.

8) What's the biggest blunder in Giants franchise history?

1960: Moving into Candlestick Park

In 40 seasons, Giants reached two million in attendance only three times.

1971: Trading George Foster to Reds for Frank Duffy and Vern Geishert

In Giants' defense, it did take a while for Foster to establish himself with Reds.

1971: Trading Gaylord Perry to Indians for Sam McDowell

Perry was four years older . . . and would win 161 more games than Sudden Sam after the deal.

1990: Signing free-agent pitcher Bud Black to four-year, $10 million contract

He pitched decently when healthy, but the big contract blew up the existing salary structure.

2003: Trading Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, and Boof Bonser to Twins for A.J. Pierzynski

Jury's still out on prospects Liriano and Bonser, but Nathan alone has made this one look pretty awful.

9) What's the biggest blunder in Marlins franchise history?

1992: Using their first pick in Expansion Draft to select Nigel Wilson

Wilson went 0-for-16 in 'career' with Marlins

1994: Using their first-round draft pick (No. 5 overall) on Josh Booty

Marlins paid Booty $1.6 million, and he batted .198 in minors.

1997-1998: Trading every high-priced player after winning World Series

Moises Alou, Gary Sheffield, Kevin Brown, Al Leiter...

2004-2005: Trading every high-priced player after winning World Series

Derrek Lee, Josh Beckett, Brad Penny...

2006: Further alienating their fans by dallying with San Antonio

Did anybody really think this would work?

10) What's the biggest blunder in Mets franchise history?

1966: Using No. 1 overall draft pick on Steve Chilcott (instead of Reggie Jackson)

There's never been a candy bar named Steve!

1969: Trading Amos Otis to Royals for Joe Foy

The Mets thought Otis was a bad third baseman; the Royals thought he was a great center fielder.

1971: Trading Nolan Ryan to Angels for Jim Fregosi

The Angels would have taken Gary Gentry, but Gil Hodges preferred to send Ryan off.

1984-1985: Abusing Dwight Gooden's young right arm

Davey Johnson was a great manager, but Gooden threw 277 innings in '85 and was never the same afterward.

1990: Firing Davey Johnson

The Mets were 20-22 when Johnson got fired, and did improve under Bud Harrelson, but not for long.

11) What's the biggest blunder in Nationals franchise history?

1974: Trading Ken Singleton and Mike Torrez to Orioles for Dave McNally and Rich Coggins

On the other hand, it was a great deal for the O's.

1979-1980: Letting Rodney Scott lead off almost every game.

Scott didn't get on base, and the Expos finished two games out in 1979 and one game out in '80.

1989: Trading Randy Johnson to Mariners for Mark Langston

Langston was supposed to put Expos over the top, but instead they finished 12 games out of first place.

1999: Signing lefty setup man Graeme Lloyd for three years, $9 million

Lloyd totaled 101 innings pitched for Expos.

2005: Trading Brad Wilkerson to Rangers for Alfonso Soriano

Soriano gets $10 million, Wilkerson gets $4 million.

12) What's the biggest blunder in Padres franchise history?

1970: Drafting schoolboy catcher Mike Ivie with No. 1 overall pick

Ivie developed mental block about throwing, never really developed.

1982: Trading shortstop Ozzie Smith for shortstop Garry Templeton

Smith's career took off in St. Louis; Templeton's crashed in San Diego.

1989: Trading Sandy Alomar and Carlos Baerga to Indians for Joe Carter

Carter was a good player, of course, but the Padres gave up a lot of young talent.

1993: Trading Fred McGriff to Braves for three prospects.

Cost-cutting move, and none of the prospects panned out.

1998: Claiming Randy Myers off waivers from Blue Jays.

Padres didn't want Braves to get him, were stuck with his big contract for two more injury-plagued seasons.

13) What's the biggest blunder in Phillies franchise history?

1964: Manager Gene Mauch starting two aces on two days of rest

Bunning and Short couldn't save the Phillies down the stretch.

1966: Trading Fergie Jenkins to Cubs for pitcher Larry Jackson

Jenkins went to the Hall of Fame; Jackson good for three seasons before retiring.

1977: Manager Danny Ozark failing to replace Luzinski with better outfielder

Ozark's gaffe cost the Phillies Game 3 of the NLCS, and ultimately the series.

1982: Trading Ryne Sandberg and Larry Bowa to Cubs for Ivan DeJesus

Yes, Sandberg was essentially a throw-in.

1997: Using No. 2 overall draft pick on J.D. Drew, who didn't sign.

Phillies had no intention of paying the $10 million Drew said it would take.

14) What's the biggest blunder in Pirates franchise history?

1927: Trading Kiki Cuyler to Cubs for a couple of no-names

Manager didn't like him, but future Hall of Famer had plenty of good seasons to come.

1928: Selling future Hall of Fame shortstop Joe Cronin to Kansas City

The Pirates had a good shortstop, but Cronin became a great one.

1975: Trading Willie Randolph and two others to Yankees for Doc Medich

Medich won eight games for Pirates; Randolph became a near-Hall of Famer.

1999: Signing free agent Pat Meares to five-year deal for good money

Or rather, bad money from the Pirates' perspective, as Meares hardly played.

2000: Signing free agent Derek Bell to two years, for almost $10 million

Bell played in 46 games before 'Operation Shutdown.'

15) What's the biggest blunder in Reds franchise history?

1957: Trading Curt Flood to Cardinals for three nobodies.

Outfield of Flood, Pinson, and Frank Robinson would have been pretty good.

1965: Trading Frank Robinson to O's for Milt Pappas, etc.

Deal turned Orioles into powerhouse, might have cost Reds a division title in '69.

1984: Hiring Pete Rose as manager

He wasn't a terrible manager, aside from the compulsive gambling.

1995: Letting manager Davey Johnson get away

...after winning a division title. Replacement: Ray Knight, who didn't work out.

2000: Firing manager Jack McKeon, hiring Bob Boone

McKeon dumped less than a year after winning Manager of the Year honors. Replacement: Bob Boone, who really didn't work out.

16) What's the biggest blunder in Rockies franchise history?

1992: Selecting David Nied from Braves with No. 1 pick in Expansion Draft

In four seasons, Nied won 17 games and lost 18.

1998: Hiring Jim Leyland as manager

Not a good fit, and he was gone after just one season.

2000: Signing free agents Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle to long-term mega-contracts.

You know how well this strategy worked.

2001: Signing Todd Helton to nine-year, $142 million deal

Yes he's a wonderful player. But nine years?

2002-2006: Retaining Dan O'Dowd as general manager

Most owners wouldn't be so patient; time will tell.

Up over and out.

[Dan Gould]

Bad loss at Fenway last night - but help is finally on the way:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds..._lineup_monday/

Coco Crisp, provided he suffers no setbacks, will return to the Red Sox lineup Monday at Toronto, having missed exactly seven weeks and 42 games, manager Terry Francona said last night.

Crisp, recovering from a fractured left index finger and kidney stones, will work out with the Sox today and then travel to Fort Myers, Fla., to play in two extended spring training games tomorrow and Friday. Because of the flexible format of the games, Crisp can lead off as many innings as he pleases. Francona said Crisp should get 10-15 at-bats. He'll then travel to Pawtucket to play in Triple A Saturday night.

``He'll either play again [for Pawtucket] Sunday or come back and work out with us and go with us [to Toronto]," Francona said. ``That's to be determined, depending on the at-bats, how he feels, things like that."

Is there a chance Crisp could play here Sunday, in what would be his Fenway debut as a member of the Sox?

``No, I don't think that's what we're looking at," Francona said. ``If he needs the at-bats, he can stay and play the game [sunday in Pawtucket]. It's a 6:05 game. Then he could fly to Toronto the next day.

``Or he could come back [to Boston after Saturday's game] if he feels playing three straight days and [having] a workout day would be good for him."

Yesterday, Crisp took 60 swings during batting practice (30 lefthanded, 30 righthanded) and ran a mile and a half (the half-mile backward).

``My stamina feels good," he said. ``I can go out there and jog a couple miles no problem. My endurance is fine."

He's done effectively the same thing the last two days and will repeat the process today.

The 42 games Crisp will have missed are just nine fewer than Johnny Damon sat out in his four seasons here combined.

After missing 1/4 of the season, it will be real nice to start fielding the starting lineup that Theo assembled. As long as Coco is really ready to go ... I think we'll start taking off!

[chris olivarez]

Dan O' Dowd on the Rockies postgame copped to the Hampton-Neagle signings as his biggest mistake. The Rockies are stocking the farm system with some good prospects and if they don't tap that till too much they could be a factor for some time to come.

[Dan Gould]

Dan O' Dowd on the Rockies postgame copped to the Hampton-Neagle signings as his biggest mistake. The Rockies are stocking the farm system with some good prospects and if they don't tap that till too much they could be a factor for some time to come.

I know the Rockies are playing better than expected but I kinda doubt they can ever put a championship team together, playing in that ballpark.

[chris olivarez]

It won't be easy. Coors is not the most pitcher friendly park but on the other hand I didn't think a no hitter could happen there until Hideo Nomo did it a few years back striking out the heart of the order in the 9th.

[Dave James]

As a quick follow up to my posting of the worst American and National League player personnel blunders in history, ESPN asked people to vote on their top 10. Here's a list of the the moves that that garnered more than 10% of the total vote:

52.6% Red Sox: Selling Babe Ruth to Yankees (1919)

Some writers thought the Yankees were taking the big risk.

38.9% Twins: Releasing David Ortiz (2002)

That's right. They not only didn't want him, they didn't get anything for him.

33.3% Dodgers: Trading Pedro Martinez for Delino DeShields (1993)

Everybody in Montreal considered the deal a salary dump. . .

32.4% Mets: Trading Nolan Ryan to Angels for Jim Fregosi (1971)

The Angels would have taken Gary Gentry, but Gil Hodges preferred to send Ryan off.

23.9% Orioles: Trading Curt Schilling, Steve Finley, Pete Harnisch to Astros for Glenn Davis (1991)

Davis's back problems made this deal a complete disaster for O's.

23.3% Nationals (Expos): Trading Randy Johnson to Mariners for Mark Langston (1989)

Langston was supposed to put Expos over the top, but instead they finished 12 games out of first place.

22.9% Marlins: Trading every high-priced player after winning World Series (1997-98)

Moises Alou, Gary Sheffield, Kevin Brown, Al Leiter...

21.6% Mariners: Trading Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek to Red Sox for Heathcliff Slocumb (1997)

Nine years later, Lowe and Varitek still productive major leaguers; Slocumb went 2-9 with 4.97 ERA and 13 saves with M's.

21.5% Cubs: Trading Lou Brock to Cardinals for pitcher Ernie Broglio (1964)

It didn't work out, but at the time of the deal nobody could have known that Brock would become a Hall of Famer and Broglio's arm would fall off.

21.3% Cardinals: Trading Steve Carlton to Phillies for Rick Wise (1972)

And all because Gussie Busch didn't want to pay Carlton an extra $10,000.

20.5% Phillies: Trading Ryne Sandberg and Larry Bowa to Cubs for Ivan DeJesus (1982)

Yes, Sandberg was essentially a throw-in.

19.1% Reds: Trading Frank Robinson to O's for Milt Pappas, etc. (1965)

Deal turned Orioles into powerhouse, might have cost Reds a division title in '69.

19.1% White Sox: Trading Sammy Sosa to Cubs for George Bell (1992)

Must anything else be said?

18.6% Angels: Signing free agent Mo Vaughn to six-year, $80 million deal (1998)

In his first game, Vaughn fell into the dugout, and eventually lasted only three seasons with the Angels, who ate a great deal of that contract.

18.2% Padres: Trading shortstop Ozzie Smith for shortstop Garry Templeton (1982)

Smith's career took off in St. Louis; Templeton's crashed in San Diego.

12.6% Braves: John Rocker (2001)

Enough said.

12.1% Royals: Trading David Cone to Mets for Ed Hearn (1987)

Cone won 194 games after the trade; Hearn played in 13 games.

12.0% Diamondbacks: Trading Curt Schilling to Red Sox for Casey Fossum, Brandon Lyon and Jorge de la Rosa (2003)

Maybe they had to trade him, and maybe they should have gotten more in return.

11.4% Yankees: Trading Fred McGriff and others for Dale Murray and Tom Dodd (1982)

McGriff would eventually hit 493 homers; Dodd wouldn't.

11.0% Brewers: Drafting B.J. Surhoff with No. 1 overall pick (1985)

Surhoff was a good player, but Brewers could have picked Will Clark, Barry Larkin, or Barry Bonds.

10.9% Rockies: Signing free agents Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle to long-term mega-contracts (2000)

You know how well this strategy worked.

Up over and out.

[Noj]

33.3% Dodgers: Trading Pedro Martinez for Delino DeShields (1993)

Everybody in Montreal considered the deal a salary dump. . .

He's just Ramon's little brother.

In good news, the Dodgers have gone 16-2 since a five-game losing streak. Go Dodgers!

[Big Al]

8) What is the biggest blunder in Rangers franchise history?

1969: Hiring Ted Williams as manager.

It worked for one season, but Senators quickly became laughingstock again.

1973: Bringing No. 1 draft pick David Clyde straight to majors.

Clyde filled the stands, but his career quickly derailed.

1979: Trading Sammy Sosa and Wilson Alvarez to White Sox for Harold Baines.

Not one of Dubya's finest moments as Rangers owner.

1993: Trading Robb Nen and Kurt Miller to Marlins for Cris Carpenter.

This Cris Carpenter won exactly six games after the deal.

2001: Spending $12 million on Andres Galarraga, Ken Caminiti, Randy Velarde.

All three veterans tanked, which cost GM Doug Melvin his job.

Well, I guess trying to narrow down the worst moments in Ranger history would be a daunting task, but how can the following be left off:

1. Signing Chan Ho Park to a woolly mammoth of a guaranteed contract

2. Signing A-Fraud Rodriguez to the same kind of deal

[Neal Pomea]

I've been a Houston fan since the time they were the Colt 45s! One they should have listed was trading Rusty Staub to Montreal. He was an all-star player there, and a local favorite for the Louisiana fans like me.

In those early days it seemed like every time they traded somebody, that player became a star for another team. Mike Cuellar went to Baltimore and was one of that 4 man rotation that were all 20 game winners (the last time that happened, probably!)

Now I am in the DC area and a Nationals fan. Too early to call the Soriano deal a big failure, in my opinion. Conventional wisdom is that he'll be a free agent after this season and sign with the highest bidder, but you never know. Wilkerson is a good guy and I wish him well with the Rangers.

[chris olivarez]

33.3% Dodgers: Trading Pedro Martinez for Delino DeShields (1993)

Everybody in Montreal considered the deal a salary dump. . .

He's just Ramon's little brother.

In good news, the Dodgers have gone 16-2 since a five-game losing streak. Go Dodgers!

[Big Al]

Now I am in the DC area and a Nationals fan. Too early to call the Soriano deal a big failure, in my opinion. Conventional wisdom is that he'll be a free agent after this season and sign with the highest bidder, but you never know. Wilkerson is a good guy and I wish him well with the Rangers.

Well, speaking as a Rangers fan, WE sure like the deal! Seriously, I had my doubts about Wilkerson at the start--I mean, he's got a real problem with strikeouts right now--but he's a solid defenseman, and I think that, over time, he'll develop into a real solid all-around player.

Of course, we're talking about a team that is two games above .500 and in first place. Bleahh.....

On a different note, I couldn't help but marvel that the Royals ended their 13-game skid against the Yankees, of all teams. Steinbrenner's gotta be shittin' bricks right now!

[Dan Gould]

With a decision looming, supposedly coming on June 5th, here's a factor that might just help tip Clemens towards the Sox:

Coco Crisp is ready to return.

It hadn't even dawned on me til now, but maybe it will enter into Clemens mind that the Red Sox are in first place and have done it without their biggest lineup addition of the off-season. With Crisp back, and Youklis and his .425 OBP moving to the bottom third of the lineup, this offense, which wasn't exactly a slouch either, at around 5th in the league in scoring, can only improve. Having reached first place without him, I think the Sox can now excel with Crisp - and one more starter like Clemens.

With the choice reportedly (and believe me, I emphasize "reportedly") narrowed down to Houston and Boston, I'll grasp at anything that makes Boston look like a better chance to get to the playoffs and be competitive!

Edited May 28, 2006 by Dan Gould

[ghost of miles]

Add Clemens to the Bosox and I'm sure it's that much tougher for the Yanks to catch them. Happy at least to see Randy Johnson finally turn in a good start today; if Boston doesn't come back in their game, NY will be only half a game behind them.

[Dan Gould]

Add Clemens to the Bosox and I'm sure it's that much tougher for the Yanks to catch them. Happy at least to see Randy Johnson finally turn in a good start today; if Boston doesn't come back in their game, NY will be only half a game behind them.

Not exactly. The lead was 2 heading into today's games.

Edit:: F-ing pathetic. Come back from down 6-0 on the road, to have the pathetic, depleted bullpen give the winning run back in the 8th.

Edited May 30, 2006 by Dan Gould

[Dave James]

On Baseball Tonight, the talk about Clemens was centered on the quality of the bull pens to whom The Rocket would be handing the ball after 6-7 innings. The Astro's relievers have an ERA that's within an eyelash of double digits. And, while Papelbon has been lights out for the Sox as as a closer, the set up guys have been awful, especially of late. The Yankees, on the other hand, are looking fairly solid with Villone, Farnsworth and Rivera. Of all the teams theoretically in the hunt, the Rangers have the strongest pen, but no one seems to think they'll be in the mix when it's all said on done.

For what it's worth, Harold Reynolds thinks Clemens is going back to the Yankees. One way or another, we should know within a week.

Up over and out.

[Dan Gould]

On Baseball Tonight, the talk about Clemens was centered on the quality of the bull pens to whom The Rocket would be handing the ball after 6-7 innings. The Astro's relievers have an ERA that's within an eyelash of double digits. And, while Papelbon has been lights out for the Sox as as a closer, the set up guys have been awful, especially of late. The Yankees, on the other hand, are looking fairly solid with Villone, Farnsworth and Rivera. Of all the teams theoretically in the hunt, the Rangers have the strongest pen, but no one seems to think they'll be in the mix when it's all said on done.

For what it's worth, Harold Reynolds thinks Clemens is going back to the Yankees. One way or another, we should know within a week.

Up over and out.

Harold Reynolds is such a Yankee fan you'd think he'd have actually played there. He always picks them to win, so why wouldn't he pick Clemens to return?

I wouldn't call the set-up guys universally "awful" - in fact, two rookies kept the Blue Jays bats silent from the 4th to the 7th. The real problem for the moment is Timlin's tired shoulder, and Foulke's regression just as we face the Blue Jays, Tigers and Yanks on the road.

[Dave James]

Dan,

I'll bet you didn't know that Harold runs a business on the side providing psychic advice to the judgementally challenged. From what I understand, he's accurate almost 98% of the time.

Up over and out.

[Dan Gould]

Dan,

I'll bet you didn't know that Harold runs a business on the side providing psychic advice to the judgementally challenged. From what I understand, he's accurate almost 98% of the time.

Up over and out.

He and Phillips, that know-nothing failed GM, would be a great pair offering gambling advice. Whoever they pick, bet against!

[sheldonm]

Clemens going to Astros....hope he gets shelled!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...mens/index.html

[Dan Gould]

Clemens going to Astros....hope he gets shelled!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...mens/index.html

Its probably correct that he signs with them, but as of now, it looks like people are jumping the gun. Both Clemens' agent and the 'Stros owner are denying the report.

[sheldonm]

Clemens going to Astros....hope he gets shelled!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...mens/index.html

Its probably correct that he signs with them, but as of now, it looks like people are jumping the gun. Both Clemens' agent and the 'Stros owner are denying the report.

...and that's a shock???

[PHILLYQ]

Clemens going to Astros....hope he gets shelled!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...mens/index.html

Its probably correct that he signs with them, but as of now, it looks like people are jumping the gun. Both Clemens' agent and the 'Stros owner are denying the report.

...and that's a shock???

Isn't that standard practice these days, deny it all and then the next day hold a press conference to trumpet the thing you denied all along?

[Dave James]

I just finished some exhaustive research on Harold Reynold's psychic hotline. It appears I had my earlier statistics reversed. He's really right only 2% of the time. I apologize for posting misleading information.

Up over and out.

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[Soulstation1]