EKE BBB Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Reportedly this has come out on CD this year, on the Fruit Tree label. Originally it was issued (as an unauthorized and pretty rare LP, I think) on the Unique Jazz label (UJ 20), as shown here: Charles Mingus Mingus Quintet Meets Cat Anderson (P) Unique Jazz Unique Jazz UJ 20 LP (unauthorized) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tracks Celia (17:35) (Mingus) Perdido (18:30) (Tizol) Personnel Joe Gardner - trumpet Hamiet Bluiett - baritone sax John Foster - piano Charles Mingus - bass Roy Brooks - drums, musical saw Cat Anderson - trumpet on 2 Information Date and location November 5, 1972, Philharmonie, Berlin Original issue Unique Jazz UJ20 Comments Priestley lists following unissued airshot tracks: 'Fables Of Faubus', 'Blues For Roy's Saw' and 'Peggy's Blue Skylight'. Has anybody got the CD release? Does it include the other three mentioned tracks ('Fables...', 'Blues for...' and 'Peggy´s...'). Here´s the original cover of the Unique Jazz LP: Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I have the LP, and I gotta tell you - it's for completists only, imo. Mingus during his "medicated" period, and nothing really special happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theteach Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Being a Mingus completist, I had to pick up this album just out of curiosity. I've heard many people dismiss this album, as "sedated Mingus" since this date came right when Mingus got back in the game in the early 70s. However, this 1972 live recording has a very smiliar feel to the Carnegie Hall date, as the sound of the band has that pre-Changes I and II feel. Well, this album features to standards Perdido and Celia that essentially turn into a jam session. On Celia, Hamiet Bluett really lets loose. He does a nice job playing within the structure of the song and then letting loose but never losing control. His sqealing sounds an awful lot like George Coleman. On Perdido, there are some nice moments. First Cat Anderson joins the group and his contribution reminds me of MIngus's work with Roy Eldridge's collaboration on the Newport Rebel tracks. Pianist, John Forster, takes a page from Jaki Byard and breaks into a boogie woogie/classical/classical march solo. Needless to say, if you're a fan of the Carnegie Hall date, you'll enjoy this release. he sound is good, a little too much treble, would like more bass. However, I'm glad I got this release. Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 From a very recent thread on this album: Being a Mingus completist, I had to pick up this album just out of curiosity. I've heard many people dismiss this album, as "sedated Mingus" since this date came right when Mingus got back in the game in the early 70s. However, this 1972 live recording has a very smiliar feel to the Carnegie Hall date, as the sound of the band has that pre-Changes I and II feel. Well, this album features to standards Perdido and Celia that essentially turn into a jam session. On Celia, Hamiet Bluett really lets loose. He does a nice job playing within the structure of the song and then letting loose but never losing control. His sqealing sounds an awful lot like George Coleman. On Perdido, there are some nice moments. First Cat Anderson joins the group and his contribution reminds me of MIngus's work with Roy Eldridge's collaboration on the Newport Rebel tracks. Pianist, John Forster, takes a page from Jaki Byard and breaks into a boogie woogie/classical/classical march solo. Needless to say, if you're a fan of the Carnegie Hall date, you'll enjoy this release. he sound is good, a little too much treble, would like more bass. However, I'm glad I got this release. Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I'm glad that Lou enjoys it that much. Different strokes, and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I have the LP, but Unique Jazz pressings were lousy, and I never connected to this one. Is this a needle drop from an LP or have they used the actual tape of the concert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I have the LP, and I gotta tell you - it's for completists only, imo. Mingus during his "medicated" period, and nothing really special happens. Thanks for the tip--I've passed this one over several times at the local record store... your description is pretty close to the vibe I had about this title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I'm a Mingus completist. When the Unique LP was available (the cheap bootleg) I had a couple of listen to the music and decided that it would be one Mingus album I would skip! Haven't changed my mind since. There's so much better Mingus music available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Oh, well. Cat Anderson Meets Charles Mingus would have probably been even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Bluiett and Roy Brooks are both great players. Dare I say it'd be preferable without the rest of the cast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 http://www.amazon.com/Mingus-Quintet-Meets...n/dp/B000O75K68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 This got me to thinking aobut another meeting between Mingus & Cat Anderson from roughly the same time - the Newport In New York jam session that got released on Cobblestone. there was some magic happening on that gig, even if it was more of a group thing and not specific to either Mingus or Anderson. Mosaic Select, where are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted November 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Guess this is that date, right?: Various Artists - Newport In New York '72: The Jam Sessions, Vol. 1&2 (Cobblestone CST 9025-2) Cat Anderson, Jimmy Owens (tp) Charles McPherson (as) Buddy Tate (ts) Roland Hanna (p) Milt Buckner (org) Charles Mingus (b) Alan Dawson (d) Radio City Music Hall, NYC, July 6, 1972 25534 Jumpin' At The Woodside 25535 Lo-Slo Blues And getting back to the "Mingus Quintet meets Cat Anderson" disc, it looks like there's yet another issued Mingus-Anderson performance from the same European tour: Various Artists - Jazz Jamboree '72 (Muza [Poland] XL 0929) Cat Anderson (tp) Hamiet Bluiett (bars) John Russell Foster (p) Charles Mingus (b) Roy Brooks (d) 'Jazz Jamboree', Warsaw, Poland, 1972 Celia ** also issued on Muza [Poland] SXL 0929. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Guess this is that date, right?: Various Artists - Newport In New York '72: The Jam Sessions, Vol. 1&2 (Cobblestone CST 9025-2) Cat Anderson, Jimmy Owens (tp) Charles McPherson (as) Buddy Tate (ts) Roland Hanna (p) Milt Buckner (org) Charles Mingus (b) Alan Dawson (d) Radio City Music Hall, NYC, July 6, 1972 25534 Jumpin' At The Woodside 25535 Lo-Slo Blues Yep, that's it. Mighty fine stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalSoul Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Guess this is that date, right?: Various Artists - Newport In New York '72: The Jam Sessions, Vol. 1&2 (Cobblestone CST 9025-2) Cat Anderson, Jimmy Owens (tp) Charles McPherson (as) Buddy Tate (ts) Roland Hanna (p) Milt Buckner (org) Charles Mingus (b) Alan Dawson (d) Radio City Music Hall, NYC, July 6, 1972 25534 Jumpin' At The Woodside 25535 Lo-Slo Blues And getting back to the "Mingus Quintet meets Cat Anderson" disc, it looks like there's yet another issued Mingus-Anderson performance from the same European tour: Various Artists - Jazz Jamboree '72 (Muza [Poland] XL 0929) Cat Anderson (tp) Hamiet Bluiett (bars) John Russell Foster (p) Charles Mingus (b) Roy Brooks (d) 'Jazz Jamboree', Warsaw, Poland, 1972 Celia ** also issued on Muza [Poland] SXL 0929. Freakin'' Buddy Tate and Milt Buckner w/ Mingus. That shit must be hot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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