ghost of miles Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 Lately I've been revisiting the exceptional Lee Konitz-Warne Marsh LIVE AT THE HALF NOTE, the two-CD set of previously unissued performances that Verve put out in 1994. The CD labels it as part of the Verve "Discoveries" series, comprising heretofore-unreleased recordings...were there more after the Konitz-Marsh? Quote
JSngry Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 You got them two JoeHen/Wynton Kelley things. The booklet inside also listes Stan Getz - Nobody But Me, Randy Weston - Monterey '66, and Charlie Haden - The Montreal Tapes I, which is not listed in the 2nd of the Joe things. Technically, however, the Konitz stuff (really from a Tristano gig that Lennie couldn't make, iirc) is only unreleased in this form. A decade earlier, there were two LPs on Revelation that consisted solely of Warne's solos from this gig, The Art Of Improvising, Vols. 1 & 2. They are both superb, if a little "oblique" for the casual listener, since they really are only Warne's solos. No heads or anything, and if you don't have really good ears, you may not hear the changes the first time or twenty through (I kid you not, I've seen some pretty good players get stumped on this...). The question now is this - if Verve released 12 full performances, and Revelation released 34 tracks of Warne solos, who do we have to collectively blow to get the remaining 22 (at least) full performances released? Because those guys were in a zone that gig... Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 The question now is this - if Verve released 12 full performances, and Revelation released 34 tracks of Warne solos, who do we have to collectively blow to get the remaining 22 (at least) full performances released? Because those guys were in a zone that gig... Those guys were in a number of "zones" over the years. Quote
brownie Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 Those two were not part of the Discoveries series. They were released shortly after the disappearances of the Discoveries. Same spirit: Quote
Fer Urbina Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 The question now is this - if Verve released 12 full performances, and Revelation released 34 tracks of Warne solos, who do we have to collectively blow to get the remaining 22 (at least) full performances released? Because those guys were in a zone that gig... According to the liner notes to the Konitz set it was Tristano who edited the Revelation LPs... so go figure. Actually, check this out (scroll down or search for "Revelation") http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/warnem...scography_2.htm Those 1990s Verve/PolyGram reissues were so goooooood... F Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 I wish they would issue the Gary McFarland "13" soundtrack. This one was ready to go back in '66 or '67, with cover art, a catalog number, and advertising, but it was yanked at the last minute. Quote
ghost of miles Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 Thanks for the info, Jim--yeah, I've actually got both of those Joe Hendersons and forgot they were part of the series. Sorry that I missed the Getz and Weston--especially the Weston. Re: McFarland, what about his mid-1960s Verve/Impulse catalogue? Enough good material there for a Mosaic Select, perhaps? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 Re: McFarland, what about his mid-1960s Verve/Impulse catalogue? Enough good material there for a Mosaic Select, perhaps? Jazzbo purists typically reject McFarland's more pop-leaning output. Without having heard 13, It is from the era of "Soft Samba Strings" "The In Sound," and "Scorpio and Other Signs." If Mosaic did a McFarland set, it would likely focus on his earlier jazz writing and arranging... Quote
Kalo Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 Live at the Half Note is a favorite. I've got the Weston, too. And I bought the Getz for my mom when it came out. Now it's some kind of collector's item, if you look at the prices asked on the internets. Quote
BruceH Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 If I bought a Stan Getz album for my mom she'd look at me like I was crazy. Quote
Quasimado Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 The question now is this - if Verve released 12 full performances, and Revelation released 34 tracks of Warne solos, who do we have to collectively blow to get the remaining 22 (at least) full performances released? Because those guys were in a zone that gig... Details of 42 tracks recorded by Peter Ind at this Half Note gig (including changes for most, IIRC) can be found on Jack Goodwin's great Marsh site/ discography at http://warnemarsh.info. (And it's in the public domain!). Q Quote
JSngry Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 If I bought a Stan Getz album for my mom she'd look at me like I was crazy. Why, is she an old-school Rollins fan or something? Quote
Kalo Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 If I bought a Stan Getz album for my mom she'd look at me like I was crazy. When she was in high school, my mom didn't like Elvis and those guys. She was a Chet Baker fan. Actually, I've not only bought jazz records for my mom, I've taken her to jazz shows, including Abbey Lincoln and Bud Shank. Quote
BruceH Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 If I bought a Stan Getz album for my mom she'd look at me like I was crazy. When she was in high school, my mom didn't like Elvis and those guys. She was a Chet Baker fan. Actually, I've not only bought jazz records for my mom, I've taken her to jazz shows, including Abbey Lincoln and Bud Shank. Wow. My own mom didn't like Elvis or Buddy Holly or Fats Domino or any of those fifties rockers either. She also didn't (and doesn't) like jazz, classical, country, or any other type of music. Doesn't like movies either. Quote
robertoart Posted December 4, 2007 Report Posted December 4, 2007 If I bought a Stan Getz album for my mom she'd look at me like I was crazy. When she was in high school, my mom didn't like Elvis and those guys. She was a Chet Baker fan. Actually, I've not only bought jazz records for my mom, I've taken her to jazz shows, including Abbey Lincoln and Bud Shank. Wow. My own mom didn't like Elvis or Buddy Holly or Fats Domino or any of those fifties rockers either. She also didn't (and doesn't) like jazz, classical, country, or any other type of music. Doesn't like movies either. Contemporary Dance perhaps? Quote
garthsj Posted December 10, 2007 Report Posted December 10, 2007 WOW! It's been a long time since I visited the Warne Marsh "information site" .. I was AMAZED at how much unreleased material there is which exists as "private recordings" ... I wonder if someone (Chuck, perhaps) will ever get around to making this treasure trove available to the rest of us "plain folks" ..? I assume that a lot of these recordings were done on small hand-held tape machines .. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 WOW! It's been a long time since I visited the Warne Marsh "information site" .. I was AMAZED at how much unreleased material there is which exists as "private recordings" ... I wonder if someone (Chuck, perhaps) will ever get around to making this treasure trove available to the rest of us "plain folks" ..? I assume that a lot of these recordings were done on small hand-held tape machines .. Many were but many sound fine. Send bucks. Quote
garthsj Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 WOW! It's been a long time since I visited the Warne Marsh "information site" .. I was AMAZED at how much unreleased material there is which exists as "private recordings" ... I wonder if someone (Chuck, perhaps) will ever get around to making this treasure trove available to the rest of us "plain folks" ..? I assume that a lot of these recordings were done on small hand-held tape machines .. Many were but many sound fine. Send bucks. How much, and do I get a tax writeoff? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 How much, and do I get a tax writeoff? Depends on the balls of your accountant. Quote
garthsj Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) How much, and do I get a tax writeoff? Depends on the balls of your accountant. She's pretty ballsy. For several years she had me write off my work doing my jazz show for an NPR station as a contribution of my time ... Hmmmmmmm ... I decided to stop that before the IRS came a'callin' So .. who owns the best tapes of Warne, and what would it cost to produce a saleable CD? Edited December 11, 2007 by garthsj Quote
MartyJazz Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 (snip) My own mom didn't like Elvis or Buddy Holly or Fats Domino or any of those fifties rockers either. She also didn't (and doesn't) like jazz, classical, country, or any other type of music. Doesn't like movies either. I hope she at least likes you. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 If I bought a Stan Getz album for my mom she'd look at me like I was crazy. When she was in high school, my mom didn't like Elvis and those guys. She was a Chet Baker fan. Actually, I've not only bought jazz records for my mom, I've taken her to jazz shows, including Abbey Lincoln and Bud Shank. Wow. My own mom didn't like Elvis or Buddy Holly or Fats Domino or any of those fifties rockers either. She also didn't (and doesn't) like jazz, classical, country, or any other type of music. Doesn't like movies either. In 1960, I brought home Duke Ellington's "Nutcracker suite". My mother's comment was, "oh yes, Duke Ellington. I saw him live in 1936." MG Quote
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