connoisseur series500 Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 Anyone who dismisses WW as a mere lounge player is nuts. He played great lounge stuff for sure, but he was also a keen artist. I particularly like: When It Was Done Rain Forest Batacuda A Certain Smile/A Certain Sadness (w/ Astrud Gilberto) Moonbeams Samba So! (A little weaker than the others above, but still good.) Great melodies; great harmonies; great bass vamps; superb musicians. Check out WW play Deodato's tune, "Capoeira" on When it was Done. Stunning solos and nice arrangements. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Looks like you be all alone out there. Quote
JSngry Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) Isn't this the cat that made more "serious" records for the Brazillian market than for the American? Edited January 6, 2008 by JSngry Quote
GA Russell Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Looks like you be all alone out there. Wait till TTK gets here! I have Rain Forest, Cheganca, A Certain Smile and Samba So! I enjoy them for what they are, particularly Rain Forest. I pulled all of them out over the course of 2007, and was a little surprised that I found him to be more lounge than I did forty years ago. Quote
mikeweil Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Is there any album where he stretches out some? Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Posted January 6, 2008 Looks like you be all alone out there. I'm sure you might be familiar with that feeling. Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Posted January 6, 2008 Is there any album where he stretches out some? Not that I'm aware of. He'll stretch out on some tunes, but he's all about melody. Typically Brazilian, huh? Quote
JSngry Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Is there any album where he stretches out some? Not that I'm aware of. He'll stretch out on some tunes, but he's all about melody. Typically Brazilian, huh? I'm pretty sure that Wanderly recorded albums expressly for the Brazillian market that are more "jazz-oriented", where he does in fact stretch out. Not sure where I heard this, but between DG & this local guy who devotes an hour or so of his two night a week jazz radio show to Brazillian music, I'm pretty sure that Walter Wanderly is the guy I'm thinking about. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Wait till TTK gets here! I have Rain Forest, Cheganca, A Certain Smile and Samba So! I enjoy them for what they are, particularly Rain Forest. I pulled all of them out over the course of 2007, and was a little surprised that I found him to be more lounge than I did forty years ago. LOL! I was fuming and then I saw your post! WW made a number of Brazilian albums (prior to Rain Forest) that got picked up by Philips or Capitol/Tower. Some of these are among his very best, while at least one of them sounds like a straightforward latin session with little "Brazilian" content.Yes, he did some "loungy" stuff, but that's a plus in my book. I'll take an interesting "lounge" record over a mediocre jazz record any day. Cheganca and Batucada on Verve are really solid. My favorite, though, is his CTI/A&M album "When It Was Done," which I would have sworn was an MPS album in a blindfold test. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 ...He'll stretch out on some tunes, but he's all about melody. Typically Brazilian, huh? Remember the Sid Ceasar joke, "Bebop groups are hiring an extra guy on radar, to warn them when they're getting too close to the melody!" Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 On a serious note, I love jazz and a lot of music that is decidedly "not jazz," even if jazz-related. An artist's ability to play well in another context, while impressive, doesn't make me like the person's records any more or less. Even if WW's abilities were limited to what you hear on those records, he made the most of what he had, and made very enjoyable records. I wouldn't recommend listening to him with a hangover, though... Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 I wouldn't recommend listening to him with a hangover, though... Strange reaction to a post beginning "On a serious note". Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) Strange reaction to a post beginning "On a serious note". You are obviously an amateur drinker. There are few things in life more serious than what music to put on with a hangover. And Walter Wanderley, Herb Alpert, and Esquivel should UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES be experienced with a hangover. Edited January 7, 2008 by Teasing the Korean Quote
JSngry Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Strange reaction to a post beginning "On a serious note". You are obviously an amateur drinker. Uh, can everybody else leave the room now? This is about to get ugly... Quote
paul secor Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Strange reaction to a post beginning "On a serious note". You are obviously an amateur drinker. Uh, can everybody else leave the room now? This is about to get ugly... Quote
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