porcy62 Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/408awsi/ Inhumanly Perfect Performances? By Erick Lichte • April, 2008 "Modern recordings, for all their glory . . . have conditioned audiences to expect an inhuman degree of performance accuracy, comparable to what a recording studio's editing team can produce by patching together the best moments from multiple takes."—James F. Penrose, Wall Street Journal, January 25, 2008 Well, color me conditioned for perfection. The January 25 edition of the Wall Street Journal featured James F. Penrose's review of Kenneth Hamilton's book After the Golden Age: Romantic Pianism and Modern Performance (Oxford University Press, 2007; hardcover, $29.95). Through analysis of piano performance practice as it has changed over the last century and a half, Hamilton claims that the ubiquity of "perfect" recordings has coupled with critics' fanatical devotion to the urtext—the original score that supposedly contains all of the composer's original intentions. Modern recordings and overly revered scores have created a climate in which classical musicians are playing scared as they try to be as perfect and faithful as possible. To quote Penrose, Hamilton's book is a lament for "the loss of a passionate, individualistic, free-form performance style" in classical music. It does not surprise me that modern recordings have helped replace musicians' quest for excellence with an obsession for perfection. As the artistic director and record producer of the male vocal ensemble Cantus (whose last seven CDs have been engineered by Stereophile editor John Atkinson), I feel the simultaneous need to create spontaneous and passionate concerts and recordings as well as note-perfect performances and immaculately sung CDs. Recording is a problem. First and foremost, it removes the temporal aspects of music. For thousands of years, music existed only in the moment it was being performed. Small glitches in intonation could easily be forgiven and forgotten if the rest of the performance was compelling. Recorded music, on the other hand, must stand up to repeated listening. What begins as a single moment in time is turned into a permanent document that can be dissected until the end of days. To boot, modern audio equipment captures and reveals not only the beautiful nuances of a performance, but also its flubs and farts. A musician's goal for any performance is to connect on a deeply emotional level with the audience. In a live concert, performers take their cues and inspiration from the energy of the hall and the audience. Recordings, however, are mostly made in empty studios void of applause or, often, of real acoustics. If much of what inspires performers to make spontaneous and daring music in the first place is absent during a record session, perhaps it is only natural that we turn to the musical score as the sole authority and standard. The predominant wisdom is that a cleanly performed work will satisfy most people over repeated listenings. One of my favorite songs is "Cello Song," by Nick Drake. It moves me, sometimes to tears. But damn, I wish that cellist had played in tune at the end! Sometimes it annoys me so much that I have to skip ahead to the next track before the end of this great song. That's a shame. One more take and a few edits could have fixed it right up. Given the ease of creating a perfect performance, there seems to be no good reason not to edit like crazy. A typical classical recording can have as many as 25 edits per minute of music, and today's software puts high-quality splices within reach of even amateur engineers. But if all we ever hear from recordings is perfection, then perfection is what we come to expect in the concert hall—cleaner recordings lead to cleaner performances lead to cleaner recordings. Eventually, the music is scrubbed to death. The roots of this idea go back to Felix Mendelssohn and beyond. "It is inartistic, nay barbaric, to alter anything [composers] have written, even by a single note," said Mendelssohn. An argument could be made that this is precisely the reason classical music is unpopular with modern audiences. A typical performance is more of a museum exhibit than something vital. Hamilton asserts that treating the score as an ideal was not always the predominate view in music. Virtuosos such as Franz Liszt and Frédéric Chopin, as popular in the 19th century as rock stars are today, would often improvise on a theme before busting into a Beethoven sonata. Almost all early opera arias included repeats during which the soloist was expected to improvise, and Mozart, Beethoven, and their contemporaries treated their concertos as vehicles for original, spontaneous cadenzas. Classical music used to be populated with many musicians who strongly asserted their own voices while performing through-composed music. For them, the composition was merely the vehicle for the performer's vision and talents. The danger is that some performers put themselves before the composition, to the music's detriment. I came across a disco version of "Nessun Dorma" on YouTube that's particularly heinous. Good gravy, it's bad. For me, in the musical debate of composer vs performer, the truth lies in the middle. On one hand, it is the job of the performer to understand what the composer was after. All glimmers of original intent and aesthetic can be lost if the performer doesn't take the time to care about the composer or the composition. The performer may lose track of what made the music good in the first place. On the other hand, a score is not music, just as a map of Niagara Falls is not the falls. The map shows us how to get there, but it has no falling water, no ability to inspire or awe. A good composer is able to create within each piece a set of rules—harmonic changes, development, architecture, etc. The performer must read between the lines and extract the piece's own interior logic. Compositions require, as Hamilton puts it, summarizing Liszt's view, "an inspired performer for realization." Historical research can also give musicians good insight, but again, worshiping conjectured performance practices of the past can create cults too wacky for even Tom Cruise to join. And yet, for all of music's difficulties, sometimes, in the concert hall and on disc, the balancing act is managed. Sometimes, the performer and the composition put down their dukes and become a harmonious whole. Sometimes, a performance's calculation sets it free to form an ephemeral bridge between musician and listener. In such moments, we remember why music is a vital part of our lives. And isn't that perfect? Quote
Tom Storer Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Thanks, that's an interesting article. Of course, from the jazz fan's point of view--mine, anyway--reverence to the composer's intention seems like only one option and not necessarily the most interesting one. I guess that's one of the real dividing lines between classical music and most other music. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 thanks for the interesting article Quote
stuartjewkes Posted June 8, 2008 Report Posted June 8, 2008 Very interesting. I would love a few maverick classical performers who had the guts to treat the mighty score like dirt and play loose with the masters. I think a good shake up is what's needed. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted June 8, 2008 Report Posted June 8, 2008 Reminds me of when I worked as the head of Recording Services at Michigan State University. I had a graduate student come in who wanted to record a "demo" he could use to apply for university teaching jobs. He had three pieces to record. The first two went relatively smoothly; I think we may have edited together two takes of one tune and used a full take for the other. The third piece, however, required extensive editing, sometimes multiple times per measure. He did probably 6 or 7 takes of the tune and we literally pieced the final product together, measure by measure, from those takes. The whole time I kept thinking, "Isn't this like lying on your resume?" He got a very good job, iirc. So I guess I did good work for him. Quote
mikeweil Posted June 8, 2008 Report Posted June 8, 2008 I was at a classical concert - baroque chamber music - this afternoon, and there were some flaws. These were not topnotch performers, but I liked their unpretentious approach, and they gave their best. Some works were difficult to play. While having dinner with my wife afterwards, I remarked that I started to hate these perfect edited performances one usually gets to hear when buying a disc. It's okay for a published recording, but the basic attitude should be a liitler looser. It may be due to the greater competition everywhere. But nobody's perfect, not even the greatest. Coleman Hawkins, when listening to a playback of his solo on Max Roach's "We Insist: Freedom Now! Suite" and being asked if he wanted another take as there was a squeak of the reed on the take, refused, saying there should be a fault on every great record. That's a healthy attitude! Quote
porcy62 Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Posted June 8, 2008 I was at a classical concert - baroque chamber music - this afternoon, and there were some flaws. These were not topnotch performers, but I liked their unpretentious approach, and they gave their best. Some works were difficult to play. While having dinner with my wife afterwards, I remarked that I started to hate these perfect edited performances one usually gets to hear when buying a disc. It's okay for a published recording, but the basic attitude should be a liitler looser. It may be due to the greater competition everywhere. But nobody's perfect, not even the greatest. Coleman Hawkins, when listening to a playback of his solo on Max Roach's "We Insist: Freedom Now! Suite" and being asked if he wanted another take as there was a squeak of the reed on the take, refused, saying there should be a fault on every great record. That's a healthy attitude! I wholeheartedly agree. Quote
Joe G Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 That's a bizarre photo, and I have no idea whatsoever who those people are. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 That's a bizarre photo, and I have no idea whatsoever who those people are. In case you are serious, that's the end of Some Like It Hot. Quote
michel1969 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) That's a bizarre photo, and I have no idea whatsoever who those people are. In case you are serious, that's the end of Some Like It Hot. "But I'm a man" "Nobody's Perfect !" Edited June 9, 2008 by Michel Quote
michel1969 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) Someone found the solution to the problem : Joyce Hatto Edited June 9, 2008 by Michel Quote
porcy62 Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Posted June 9, 2008 That's a bizarre photo, and I have no idea whatsoever who those people are. In case you're serious do youself a favour and rent the DVD right now. Quote
porcy62 Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Posted June 9, 2008 Someone found the solution to the problem : Joyce Hatto :blink: :rofl: That's remind me the Modigliani hoax http://www.neural.it/art/2008/05/modi_20_m...ke_scul_1.phtml Quote
AllenLowe Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) 1) yes that's one of thge greatest comedies ever made - if you have not seen it, get it pronto - 2) No one has talked about how digital editing has changed the recordist's landscape - I can tell you from experience that it is nothing short of miraculous - and though I'm basically a "record it live" type of guy, digital editing allowed me to save having to go back in the studio on two cuts on my last CD - they weren't radical edits, but allowed me to snip out two brief flubs; kinda like editing a manuscript - it can be quite seemless, especially compared to that old tape edits - as a matter of fact, I was istening to Tijuana Moods just recently and heard one of the worst edits ever - Edited June 9, 2008 by AllenLowe Quote
Joe G Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 That's a bizarre photo, and I have no idea whatsoever who those people are. In case you're serious do youself a favour and rent the DVD right now. You're talking to someone who watches maybe 5 movies per year, max. And it would less than that if I didn't have a girlfriend. -_- Oh, and I have to get a DVD player first (the first one broke down, and the last one was stolen). ~ Digital editing is indeed incredible. Quote
porcy62 Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Posted June 9, 2008 That's a bizarre photo, and I have no idea whatsoever who those people are. In case you're serious do youself a favour and rent the DVD right now. You're talking to someone who watches maybe 5 movies per year, max. And it would less than that if I didn't have a girlfriend. -_- Oh, and I have to get a DVD player first (the first one broke down, and the last one was stolen). ~ Digital editing is indeed incredible. Well, Joe, in this case you HAVE to see it in some form: Jack Lemmon, Tony Curtis and Marlyn Monroe in one of the funniest movie ever and lot of jazz in it. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 That's a bizarre photo, and I have no idea whatsoever who those people are. In case you're serious do youself a favour and rent the DVD right now. You're talking to someone who watches maybe 5 movies per year, max. And it would less than that if I didn't have a girlfriend. -_- Oh, and I have to get a DVD player first (the first one broke down, and the last one was stolen). ~ Digital editing is indeed incredible. Well, Joe, in this case you HAVE to see it in some form: Jack Lemmon, Tony Curtis and Marlyn Monroe in one of the funniest movie ever and lot of jazz in it. And you HAVE to forget this thread, when you watch it. MG Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 As a further take on the substantive issue, there are other traditions that are neither "classical" nor "jazz/improvised". The Mandinke djelis pride themselves on being able to recreate their solos note for note. This is part of an oral tradition in which music (and history) is passed down from generation to generation so that one can listen to a recording of Balla Fasseke Kouyate's composition "Hymn to the bow", written in the second quarter of the 13th C, with some reasonable assurance that the performance, even on a different instrument, is faithfully representing the notes, if not the sounds, Balla Fasseke wrote. MG Quote
7/4 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 For all the who-ha about how Indian Classical music is all improvised, it took me a while before I realized that all those pieces called compositions are just that - compositions, not improvisations. . Quote
WD45 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Posted June 9, 2008 For all the who-ha about how Indian Classical music is all improvised, it took me a while before I realized that all those pieces called compositions are just that - compositions, not improvisations. . Especially so for Carnatic. Quote
BruceH Posted June 11, 2008 Report Posted June 11, 2008 Thanks, that's an interesting article. Of course, from the jazz fan's point of view--mine, anyway--reverence to the composer's intention seems like only one option and not necessarily the most interesting one. I guess that's one of the real dividing lines between classical music and most other music. Indeed; good point. Especially between classical and jazz. Quote
BruceH Posted June 11, 2008 Report Posted June 11, 2008 1) yes that's one of thge greatest comedies ever made - if you have not seen it, get it pronto - 2) No one has talked about how digital editing has changed the recordist's landscape - I can tell you from experience that it is nothing short of miraculous - and though I'm basically a "record it live" type of guy, digital editing allowed me to save having to go back in the studio on two cuts on my last CD - they weren't radical edits, but allowed me to snip out two brief flubs; kinda like editing a manuscript - it can be quite seemless, especially compared to that old tape edits - as a matter of fact, I was istening to Tijuana Moods just recently and heard one of the worst edits ever - I must say, the tape edits in Tijuana Moods long ago became a part of the music for me. Quote
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