Д.Д. Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 I'm not sure I understand what Butcher's solo play has to do with evaluating his performance in a group. Is it just that you prefer when he plays alone? Diluted focus. There is much less of Butcher here than you would hear on his solo disc, and I miss it. Quote
Guest Chaney Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 Ahhh... gotcha. Shite! Gotta go to work! Quote
Nate Dorward Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 The Eneidi/Ellis/Valsalmis disc is OK--actually it'd be great if it weren't for the prolonged downtime in the long final track (esp. the squelchy electronic interlude from Ellis). Quote
king ubu Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) The Eneidi/Ellis/Valsalmis disc is OK--actually it'd be great if it weren't for the prolonged downtime in the long final track (esp. the squelchy electronic interlude from Ellis). Thanks Nate and everybody. I did order some things, skipped the Eneidi (the samples seemed quite a bit less intriguing than a great live recording I have) and Butcher/Masaoka, too. But I did add two of the ones D.D. recommended (the indian sax guy and that larger bay area group). Edit: skipped Tri-O and Volkov/Kuryokhin, too - the order would have just gotten too expensive... Edited July 17, 2006 by king ubu Quote
Guest Chaney Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) Butcher - Masaoka - Robair I used to like a lot, but now, having heard more solo Butcher, this is definitely not on that level. Masaoka is quite an incoherent imprivisor (doing these pretty but mindless decorative koto splaches most of the time), and the whole thing is not very focused (atypically for Butcher). Wow, David. I have to respectfully disagree with most of what you say about Guerrilla Mosaics, although mine may be a minority opinion. (See this.) Scribbled, while listening: Miya, her sound/instrument very much dominate this disk (except for a few spots where Robair and Butcher flex their muscles and swat her aside); drawn to the sound of Miya's instrument, much as if she were a vocalist; she's really allowed to lead the way; track one, Butcher's sax a bit too ugly and inrusive; this can't be completely inprovised as it works a little too well... Miya playing mindless Kyoto splashed most of the time? Can't agree. Not focused? Very surprised to hear you say that; I found it to be so focused much of the way that I felt compelled to e-mail Gino asking just how much of this was pre-planned and how much improv. (This would have been a good disk for you and I too have listened to online.) Very enjoyable and certainly a disk I'd highly recommend. 482 Music Edited July 18, 2006 by Chaney Quote
David Ayers Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 (edited) Spinning this one. Not my favorite Shoji Hano record so far . Another off-centre offering from the enterprising Trevor Manwaring on Chronoscope... Edited July 19, 2006 by David Ayers Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 Spinning this one. Not my favorite Shoji Hano record so far . Another off-centre offering from the enterprising Trevor Manwaring on Chronoscope... I saw Gary Smith and Shoji Hano do their thing maybe 18 months/a year or so ago. Smith wasn't remotely in Hano's league that night. Hano played a scorcher, and seemed - although my Japanese is non-existent, and his English was rudimentary - to be a very nice guy indeed. Quote
David Ayers Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 (edited) Spinning this one. Not my favorite Shoji Hano record so far . Another off-centre offering from the enterprising Trevor Manwaring on Chronoscope... I saw Gary Smith and Shoji Hano do their thing maybe 18 months/a year or so ago. Smith wasn't remotely in Hano's league that night. Hano played a scorcher, and seemed - although my Japanese is non-existent, and his English was rudimentary - to be a very nice guy indeed. Lucky you! I'm not yet convinced by Smith, although this record has a decent amount of variety. There is a similar (?) one with Smith and Hugh Hopper on bass, which I haven't heard. Edited to add that an amazon.co.uk seller is offering the Chronoscope CD currently for £1.95... Edited July 19, 2006 by David Ayers Quote
jon abbey Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 Another off-centre offering from the enterprising Trevor Manwaring on Chronoscope... the formerly enterprising Trevor Manwaring, he passed away a year or two ago. Quote
David Ayers Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 Another off-centre offering from the enterprising Trevor Manwaring on Chronoscope... the formerly enterprising Trevor Manwaring, he passed away a year or two ago. Indeed. Chronoscope and Paratactile left a short but select list. Quote
David Ayers Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 (edited) Anyone care for this Bailey/Haino offering (on Incus)? Haino is on vocals. I never did acquire the (usually rather expensive) 'Drawing Close, Attuning' with KH on guitar. Oldies but goldies. PS I realise that KH is not big in these quarters but I hope you don't mind me dropping his name from time to time... PPS This is a fierce one. I am playing it with the windows open - the neighbors will think I'm berserk... in fact, here they come now with their pitchforks.. maybe they need some help in the fields...? Edited July 20, 2006 by David Ayers Quote
David Ayers Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 Airplaines sounds I hate. You'll not be enjoying this one then: Quote
David Ayers Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 Heh heh. How is that one? I don't know yet - it's still in the shrinkwrap! Just arrived today. I'll let you know as soon as I have played it... Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted July 25, 2006 Report Posted July 25, 2006 Heh heh. How is that one? I don't know yet - it's still in the shrinkwrap! Just arrived today. I'll let you know as soon as I have played it... With a cover that cool, it's pretty good still in the shrink wrap Enjoy Quote
Bright Moments Posted July 25, 2006 Report Posted July 25, 2006 i am REALLY digging this, but don't just take my word for it! from the web page http://www.spoolmusic.com/framesmain.HTML : What the critics are saying: Not so long ago, the cello was one instrument left out on the doorstep of jazz, if not most improvised musics. But times have changed! Indeed, this instrument's role has blossomed in recent years and who cannot acknowledge the sterling artistry of Ernst Reijsiger, the equally remarkable playing of Eric Friedlander, even the sheer resourcefulness of the late Tom Cora? To this growing list, one must equally include the now Vancouver resident, Peggy Lee … Marc Chenard, Program notes for the 1999 Festival Musique Actuelle de Victoriaville. With her ddeply sonorous instrument in hand, Lee has more-than-shared the stage with creative improvisors from all over the world: Joelle Leandre, Dave Douglas, Mark Dresser, Susie Ibarra, and Barre Phillips to name but a few. Her playing blends grace and precision, yet when the music demands it she can be equally challenging and vibrant. Jon Morgan, Signal to Noise She can scrape and stridulate as required, but her cello playing also grants due place to clarity of line and sweetness of tone. Both aspects of Lee's musical character inform her compositions and their performance by an entirely sympathetic sextet. Julian Cowley, The Wire As a jazz cellist, Lee is almost in a league of her own... Devoted to her own compositions, this disc will only increase her profile - it's a stunner. [The group] execute the lush material with nearly-telepathic ensemble playing. Hear tunes from one of the year's best jazz records ... Stuart Derdeyn, The Province This self-titled album on Spool Records' improv series is a masterwork of skill and innovation. The music is a blend of pop, classical and jazz, but in the most original manner I've heard. She's helped out by other great musicians, especially Brad Turner on trumpet and flugelhorn and Jeremy Berkman on trombone. Both stimulating and relaxing. Lara, Pop Boffin The musicians devote themselves to exploring every facet of Lee's complex and evocative compositions; from Wilson's scratchy free-play to Turner's burnished lines, their solo statements are wonderfully personal, but always bear some relationship to the source material at hand. And Lee's tunes are as distinctive as her own rich cello sound: drawing on the jazz avant garde, contemporary chamber sounds, folk music, and even rock, they ebb and flow with an almost oceanic grace ... Alexander Varty, The Georgia Straight Vancouver is a hotbed of improvised music, with one of its most interesting experimenters being this sextet led by cellist Peggy Lee which draws from different genres -- modern trumpeter Brad Turner, electric bass funkster Chris Tarry and avant garde percussionist Dylan van der Schyff, for example. With trombonist Jeremy Berkman and Tony Wilson's electric guitar adding fierce "outside" forays, the Lee compositions veer between wild extravagance and spacey deconstruction, and sometimes examine futuristic group dynamics. Geoff Chapman, Toronto Star Cellist Peggy Lee is a musician whose every phrase seems to contain fresh inspiration. An adept reader and improvisor, she is ever popular with musicians because of the consistent artistic integrity she brings to music. She is popular with Vancouver audiences because of the warmth and sincerity she projects through music. It is hard to slot The Peggy Lee Band into any kind of musical category, a mark of excellence that makes me give this CD the highest recommendation to music lovers. Laurence M. Svirchev, Planet Jazz Perhaps the most effective trait Lee shows on this debut recording is her scope as an arranger. She positions the various textures in her band to great effect and combines instruments to create rich tapestries of sound...This sumptuous recording will introduce listeners to the depth of exciting contemporary music being created in Vancouver. James Halle, Ottawa Citizen Peggy Lee Band At Performance Works on Friday, June 25, 1999; Lee has won an international following for the strength and beauty of her improvisational style: she's fearless and sweet, just as likely to sing her heart out in a rhapsodic melody as she is to plunge headfirst into a gnarly exploration of knotty chords...Lee's compositional style is just as adventurous and diverse...her particular compositional gift is evinced in the way her pieces flow, as if in a dream, from one form to another. Her melodies slide in and out of abstraction; skewed marches butt up against folksongs; chamber-music niceties crumble under the assault of funk and psychedelia… Lee plunders all the musical resources available to her, but always in the service of emotional exploration. Alexander Varty, The Georgia Straight Since Peggy Lee and Dylan van der Schyff's cd, "These Are Our Shoes" was my favorite cd of 1998, The Peggy Lee Band was a natural choice for kicking off the [Du Maurier Vancouver International Jazz] festival for me. My expectations were high, and I was not disappointed. Lee's playing is always both sensitive and passionate, and she's aligned herself here with some of the best musicians in Vancouver… A definite festival highlight. David MacLeod, The Jazz Asylum. Produced by Peggy Lee and Shawn Pierce.Recorded and mixed by Shawn Pierce at Blue Wave Productions, Vancouver BC, for Maximum Music Ltd. Quote
Д.Д. Posted July 25, 2006 Report Posted July 25, 2006 Airplaines sounds I hate. You'll not be enjoying this one then: I don't like Ballet Mécanique too much mainly because it's infested with Stravinsky clichés. I enjoy Serenade and Symphony much more. Quote
David Ayers Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 Meawhile back at the ranch: THIS IS THE STUFF CHRIS! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 Great one! Anybody know what happened with the MPS/Saba reissue program? There are a number of things befitting the Funny Rat scene that I thought were coming out on CD, but haven't appeared. Quote
king ubu Posted July 28, 2006 Report Posted July 28, 2006 Wasn't there someone on AAJ with insights into the MPS programme? I never thought they'd reissue any of the freer stuff (like CT), but maybe I just didn't notice? ************************************ Just ordered two titles from Limited Sedition - very last copy of the second one, it seems: Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 31, 2006 Report Posted July 31, 2006 Damn, and I was just looking at that Jack Wright reviewed online - thought I'd keep an eye out! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 31, 2006 Report Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) And speaking of Saba, Transfiguration is one of the most brilliant documents of '60s European jazz. Consistently a surprising and nuanced date, and certainly my favorite of the Kuhn brothers. Now that one needs to be on CD! Edited July 31, 2006 by clifford_thornton Quote
king ubu Posted July 31, 2006 Report Posted July 31, 2006 Did you check AMG? There's a thread here as well, I think there were two guys posting news there but only one with a connection to Universal Austria (using as a handle "soulpope", I think). Quote
Д.Д. Posted July 31, 2006 Report Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) I don't know how about you guys, but I am quite excited about the new release of Mike Patton's project Peeping Tom (haven't heard it yet; just placed an order). Mike Patton might be my favorite living male vocalist. For those of you who are not familir with Patton (can it be so?!?), here's a little video of his performance. Edited July 31, 2006 by Д.Д. Quote
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