John B Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 D.D. - I just tried to send you a PM replying about Zebulon Pike but your inbox is full. Bagatellen has a Jason Bivins penned review of several new Frode Gjerstad discs posted here. Frode himself is the most recent person to post a reply. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 Did you check AMG? There's a thread here as well, I think there were two guys posting news there but only one with a connection to Universal Austria (using as a handle "soulpope", I think). Yeah, I remember that. Nothing seems to have come of it, according to AMG at least. The few titles that were out several years ago are all I see. I thought Afrodisiaca was reissued, but no evidence here... Quote
king ubu Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 Did you check AMG? There's a thread here as well, I think there were two guys posting news there but only one with a connection to Universal Austria (using as a handle "soulpope", I think). Yeah, I remember that. Nothing seems to have come of it, according to AMG at least. The few titles that were out several years ago are all I see. I thought Afrodisiaca was reissued, but no evidence here... Wow, is that several years already? The latest ones I saw in stores were all even more mainstream (Oscar Peterson, mainly, some with Ray Brown and/or Milt Jackson) than the earlier ones (Mangelsdorff, the Koller ones, Dauner, Jankowski etc.). Haven't heard of anything or seen any new ones since those. Quote
ep1str0phy Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 Did you check AMG? There's a thread here as well, I think there were two guys posting news there but only one with a connection to Universal Austria (using as a handle "soulpope", I think). Yeah, I remember that. Nothing seems to have come of it, according to AMG at least. The few titles that were out several years ago are all I see. I thought Afrodisiaca was reissued, but no evidence here... Wow, is that several years already? The latest ones I saw in stores were all even more mainstream (Oscar Peterson, mainly, some with Ray Brown and/or Milt Jackson) than the earlier ones (Mangelsdorff, the Koller ones, Dauner, Jankowski etc.). Haven't heard of anything or seen any new ones since those. Same here--and a lot of my (most of the year) local record shops get new MPSs (e.g., the Clarke/Bolands). I'd be thrilled to see Afrodisiaca out, frankly--but all I see are piles upon piles of Peterson reissues. Quote
couw Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 FWIW, this thread may interest you funny rats. Quote
ep1str0phy Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 FWIW, this thread may interest you funny rats. Not at all familiar with this material--thanks a bunch! Quote
Guest akanalog Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 yeah you fucking stupid MPS master tape owning mother fuckers-why not release something besides every single fucking album oscar peterson (and hans koller though some of his are ok) ever put out? or give volker kreigel, for one, the same treatment as koller and don't just release one measly album, but release them all. at least with the koller perhaps there is some nationalistic pride, but dumping all this peterson on us seems a bit "just trying to make a buck" ish. i recently got a shitty sketchy reissue from some dubious label of rolf kuhn's "going to the rainbow". it has chick corea playing electric piano on it, for christ's sake, so i am sure it would sell a few copies at least if MPS reissues it legitimately. at this point i will also once again plug the roland kovac reissues on the garden of delights label. "the master said", especially, is a sweet album which would appeal to people on this board of all spectra of musical enjoyment and even seem to be available from dustygroove?!?!? Quote
Guest akanalog Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 actually, "the master said" might not appeal to funny ratters-but to me it sounds like a european and more psychedelic rock influenced version of "moon rappin'". Quote
king ubu Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 Hey, I share your feelings, but please keep Koller out of there! He's one of the most important european jazz musicians, I think, and it's great that his albums are out again! And some of them may even please you, too... if not, there's still another recently issued one, "Jeanneret Tapes", featuring Manfed Schoof. Give him a chance! Quote
Д.Д. Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) Hey, I share your feelings, but please keep Koller out of there! He's one of the most important european jazz musicians, I think, and it's great that his albums are out again! And some of them may even please you, too... if not, there's still another recently issued one, "Jeanneret Tapes", featuring Manfed Schoof. Give him a chance! I am a fan of Hans Koller as well. Some MPS stuff has been reissues in the Universal Japan HardCore Jazz series (Cecil, Sun Ra, etc.). Edited August 2, 2006 by Д.Д. Quote
David Ayers Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) Meanwhile, in a world of my own: I'M FREE, CAPTAIN PEACOCK! Edited to mention that this is Evolving Blush, Or Driving Original Sin, by Brotzmann and Haino. Edited August 2, 2006 by David Ayers Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 But for that 'i' in 'Haino', I thought this thread had just come glorious full circle! Quote
David Ayers Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 But for that 'i' in 'Haino', I thought this thread had just come glorious full circle! Hano to Haino - the A-Z of Japanese improv! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 Speaking of prime European jazz, when is somebody going to reissue all that Manfred Schoof Quintett material from the '60s? Great shit!!! Quote
ep1str0phy Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 Speaking of prime European jazz, when is somebody going to reissue all that Manfred Schoof Quintett material from the '60s? Great shit!!! As long as we're on Schoof (?!)--Is European Echoes worth picking up? The lineup is excellent, but I'm wondering what differentiates this from the dozens of others with similar personnel. It's making the rounds at a reasonable price... Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 3, 2006 Report Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) I haven't listened to European Echoes in a while, although remember enjoying it! Edited August 3, 2006 by Red Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 3, 2006 Report Posted August 3, 2006 But for that 'i' in 'Haino', I thought this thread had just come glorious full circle! Hano to Haino - the A-Z of Japanese improv! Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 3, 2006 Report Posted August 3, 2006 Just listening to European Echoes again. I think it's good. It's obviously quite similar to lots of these 'blowout' dates from the time, but I think the solos are often outstanding. Just had two great trumpet solos - I take it they're Rava and Schoof, as I'm not familiar with Hugh Steinmetz's sound. Han is his usual anarchic self, and the bass playing is wonderful (surprise surprise, given Kowald's on board..!) Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 3, 2006 Report Posted August 3, 2006 Speaking of prime European jazz, when is somebody going to reissue all that Manfred Schoof Quintett material from the '60s? Great shit!!! As long as we're on Schoof (?!)--Is European Echoes worth picking up? The lineup is excellent, but I'm wondering what differentiates this from the dozens of others with similar personnel. It's making the rounds at a reasonable price... It's great, and it has an urgency that makes it profoundly different from some of those other records. They're on FIRE... Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 3, 2006 Report Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) Listen to the piano solo at the end of track 2...that poor instrument is in a bad way! Schlippenbach, Van Hove and Schweizer... p.s. edited for spelling Edited August 3, 2006 by Red Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 3, 2006 Report Posted August 3, 2006 Well, at least one (probably Van Hove's) is prepared... Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 3, 2006 Report Posted August 3, 2006 No - it's the 'basic' tuning I'm getting at, rather anything preparation might do to the tuning. FWIW, however (and I listened whilst doing other things, so might have missed it) I didn't notice the preparation... It's great late-60s Derek at the start of track 2! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 4, 2006 Report Posted August 4, 2006 Huh. On my LP, Bailey's at the beginning of side one. How did Atavistic do the reissue? Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 4, 2006 Report Posted August 4, 2006 You're right - my mistake. But what's peculiar is that side 2 (starting with the drums, then into the basses, etc.) sounds more like a beginning than side 1... p.s. I don't have the UMS reissue as such - rather, I've got the emusic version of it. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 5, 2006 Report Posted August 5, 2006 The LP jacket lists the order of soloists on the back, which coincides with drummers starting side 2. I hear you, though. Quote
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