Larry Kart Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 The above by way of Doug Ramsey's blog. And as an act of redemption, Raney singing "Dreamsville" with unearthly poise: Alto sax soloist is Ronny Lang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) wow! nice choreography - great dancing - but I thought Ma Rainey was black - Edited March 29, 2009 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robviti Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 odd and terribly outdated for sure, but "impossibly creepy?" i don't follow you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 odd and terribly outdated for sure, but "impossibly creepy?" i don't follow you. In that case, No, you may NOT meet my daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 odd and terribly outdated for sure, but "impossibly creepy?" i don't follow you. Strikes me as creepy too. Put yourself in this guy's shoes when he's trying to put his A-game moves on this gal and she won't stop singing. Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 well, he can meet MY daughter, but I want cash up front - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 And now....................the REST of the story: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Dreamsville is wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 But sersiously folks, that's a pretty nifty production in that genre. Did a little research and found this: http://www.sueraney.org/liners/aliveliner.html Track List Track 1: Who's Afraid 2:20:7 Track 2: Any Old Time Of The Day 2:1:18 Track 3: I'm Looking (Uh-Huh) 2:19:47 Track 4: Little Things Mean A Lot 3:7:33 Track 5: Once Upon A Time Impossible 2:5:59 Track 6: Always Something There To Remind Me 2:30:64 Track 7: Now Is The Hour 2:34:42 Track 8: Before The Rain 2:33:69 Track 9: Smile 2:58:74 Track 10: My Love, My Love 2:43:7 Track 11: Goodbye Darling, Hello Friend 2:22:74 Track 12: Walk On By 2:35:3 Liner Note To look at her is delight. She sparkles with excitement and possesses warmth and depth. When she enters a room she brings an aura of freshness and exhilaration. She is girl, yet she is woman. There is more, she sings and feels. To hear her is delight. Her voice is soft, yet can express emotions from the highest to the lowest. She is a musician in that she has that intuitive sense which provides a timbre and vibrancy plus excellent phrasing. Her versatility runs the full course from the plaintiveness of "Who's Afraid" through the difficult rhythmic patterns of "Any Old Time Of Day." And she has command and assurance. Whether it be a standard or current tune, both are fortunate when they receive her interpretation and touch. For example, listen to "Smile" and you will. She is voice and feeling. She is music and song. She is alive. She is Sue Raney. -Richard Oliver Personnel Ralph Carmichael conducting studio orchestra. Arr: Ralph Carmichael, Eddie Karam, Gene Page. Hey.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Dreamsville is wonderful. Raney did a few sides for Capitol with Nelson Riddle doing hte charts, and they're all dandy, what with Riddle upping his game just a little bit, always a sign of his respect for the musicianship of the talent. That's borne out by the fact that for years, Raney was Riddle's female vocalist for his assorted pick-up gigs where he'd front an orchestra playing his book for various social functions. So yeah, Sue Raney's got skills, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 odd and terribly outdated for sure, but "impossibly creepy?" i don't follow you. You didn't find that Mr. Rogers-like guy creepy as he awkwardly hauls Raney down on the lawn? And the way the kissing is staged, even without the fact that Raney's vocal continues through the lip-lock? And the dancers and their outfits? BTW, isn't "Dreamsville" (the piece itself) rather Strayhorn-esque? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't get "impossibly creepy" either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 You didn't find that Mr. Rogers-like guy creepy as he awkwardly hauls Raney down on the lawn? And the way the kissing is staged, even without the fact that Raney's vocal continues through the lip-lock? And the dancers and their outfits? Dude, watch it again - she pulls him down. What I found kinda creepy was the little post-it notes washing down the gutter with things like LOVE & LUST handwritten on them. The rest of it was pretty much cheesy imo, not so much creepy as just plain Ed Wood-ish bad. I do like that record, though. Never heard it before. Very much a period thing, but very nicely so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 You didn't find that Mr. Rogers-like guy creepy as he awkwardly hauls Raney down on the lawn? And the way the kissing is staged, even without the fact that Raney's vocal continues through the lip-lock? And the dancers and their outfits? Dude, watch it again - she pulls him down. What I found kinda creepy was the little post-it notes washing down the gutter with things like LOVE & LUST handwritten on them. The rest of it was pretty much cheesy imo, not so much creepy as just plain Ed Wood-ish bad. I do like that record, though. Never heard it before. Very much a period thing, but very nicely so. Actually, I just looked again and was about to correct my last post. And that it's she who hauls him down seems much creepier than the other way around. Don't want to go too far in constructing scenarios, but it's as though it's her job to do this, and that he ain't that willing ... or even able. And those post-it notes washing down the gutter -- definitely. Also, in the opening shot of Raney, she has a kind of Angie Dickinson vibe, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Now, if it's really kinda creepy you want out of a Scopitone, try this: Kay Starr - Wheel Of Fortune Then again, it's the oddity of the whole Scopitone production values that keep them "interesting" today, no? So many of them play like stag films trying to not be stag films. That's always gonna be awkward, like walking up to the altar to take communion with a hardon you get from watching the minister's daughter a few pews in front of you... But ok, here's a truly creepy Scopitone: It's like Devo before anybody even thought about Devo, and if that's not a disturbing notion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 BTW, isn't "Dreamsville" (the piece itself) rather Strayhorn-esque? I agree; the bridge especially. Lots of big intervals and intricate harmony. Not an easy one to sing, but she nailed it. I got nervous when she started to scat on the ending, but she nailed that too. Always have liked that tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedwork Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 You didn't find that Mr. Rogers-like guy creepy as he awkwardly hauls Raney down on the lawn? And the way the kissing is staged, even without the fact that Raney's vocal continues through the lip-lock? And the dancers and their outfits? Dude, watch it again - she pulls him down. What I found kinda creepy was the little post-it notes washing down the gutter with things like LOVE & LUST handwritten on them. The rest of it was pretty much cheesy imo, not so much creepy as just plain Ed Wood-ish bad. I do like that record, though. Never heard it before. Very much a period thing, but very nicely so. Actually, I just looked again and was about to correct my last post. And that it's she who hauls him down seems much creepier than the other way around. Don't want to go too far in constructing scenarios, but it's as though it's her job to do this, and that he ain't that willing ... or even able. And those post-it notes washing down the gutter -- definitely. Also, in the opening shot of Raney, she has a kind of Angie Dickinson vibe, no? awesome. i've never heard Raney. she sounds great. as for her pulling him down - this came out in 1966, right? seems like it may have been, overall, pretty racy for back then. and her being the one that essentially wants to get on with gettin' it on may be a sign of the impending (already happening) women's lib movement of the 60s/70s. or am i reading too much into it? and i don't think it's creepy either. i think it's kinda hot, and i assume it was supposed to be (is that ok to say on this board? i'm a newbie - be gentle...). but i could see how it would come off as creepy for some. time warp. for me it comes off as somewhat surreal and stilted, like a repressive but not altogether unpleasant (pardon the double negative) acid trip. yeah - those notes floating down the stream (flame, lust, passion, man, woman...). hilarious! and those dancers - they're like the most awkward and least suggestive go go dancers in history! check them out especially at 1:29. LMFAO! but "Dreamville." another story obviously. beautiful. and that arrangement - i love the bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 but "Dreamville." another story obviously. beautiful. and that arrangement - i love the bones. ...trombones AND French horns. Beautiful Mancini sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 i think it's kinda hot, and i assume it was supposed to be (is that ok to say on this board? i'm a newbie - be gentle...). That's always gonna be awkward, like walking up to the altar to take communion with a hardon you get from watching the minister's daughter a few pews in front of you... Welcome aboard, and draw your own conclusions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Now, if it's really kinda creepy you want out of a Scopitone, try this: Kay Starr - Wheel Of Fortune Oh my God. BTW, I've got a late-ish Kay Starr album with a small group that includes Red Norvo and Jimmy Rowles that is one of the great jazz vocal recordings IMO. Starr could really improvise -- some of her choices are so in-the-moment they're scary -- and her sense of swing was unreal, if you don't mind the country-ish overlap (and you shouldn't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 It's "Back To the Roots" (GNP) from 1969. Full personnel (one heck of a band): Georgie Auld - Tenor sax Monty Budwig - Bass Red Callender - Bass Stix Hooper - Drums Barney Kessel - Guitar Blue Mitchell - Trumpet Red Norvo - Vibraphone Jimmy Rowles - Piano Al Viola - Guitar Clips here: http://www.emusic.com/album/Kay-Starr-Back...d/10595358.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Kay Starr is not an artist away from whom I would reflexively turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Kay Starr is not an artist away from whom I would reflexively turn. Famously one of Lester's favorites, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 That I don't know right off hand, but hey... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLqiFNOJG_I This don't suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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