brownie Posted March 29, 2010 Report Posted March 29, 2010 More sad news... From the AP today Peter Herbolzheimer Quote
Cyril Posted March 29, 2010 Report Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) Sad news... R.I.P. Peter Herbolzheimer http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?40515-Peter-Herbolzheimer-RIP-German-big-band-leader-arranger&p=452145 scroll down to see 80s and 90s videos Edited March 29, 2010 by Cyril Quote
sidewinder Posted March 29, 2010 Report Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) Sad news - very much enjoyed his 'Rhythm Combination & Brass' recordings for MPS and really should get that box set. RIP Mr Herbolzheimer. Edited March 29, 2010 by sidewinder Quote
bichos Posted March 30, 2010 Report Posted March 30, 2010 rip "fatman". i remember him from many legendary tv shows here in germany in my youth. keep boppin´ marcel Quote
neveronfriday Posted March 30, 2010 Report Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) "Fatman" was an absolutely dedicated musician. Two of my former students are members of the "Bundesjugend-Jazzorchester". One of the lead saxophones is a girl that, unusual for my area, lived and breathed jazz at a very young age. The last time I met Peter was last year and we spent an extensive amount of time discussing "Eugen Cicero": Peter was one of the extremely few people I knew who knew even the minutest details of Eugen's life and career (although he was not exactly a fan). What fascinated me about him was his both strict (and at times explosive) and loving and extremely dedicated teacher persona. I was allowed to watch many rehearsals of the above-mentioned orchestra from the "bleachers". He had a very unique way of getting the absolute best from his young students, in a conversational tone but always with astounding results. Many, many years ago I had the chance to sit next to him at a fancy dinner for an entire evening and I found out that, at heart, he was a teacher. In the latter half of his life I, personally, had the feeling that he also defined himself that way almost exclusively. I would have loved to have someone like him as a teacher at the school I work at. An idealist with a postively huge background. He gave his very best to young people, even at times at which he was not feeling well .. at all. From that singular perspective of mine, it is a huge loss to the music community (much like Ed Thigpen's death early this year was), because there simply aren't many of those personalities around anymore. It's only my own guess, but a very large number of aspiring jazz musicians in Germany (and, to some extent, Europe) owe an absolutely huge debt to Peter. Without him, his dedication and stamina, many - if not most - would never have been offered the chances they got. Peter made sure to always do his best to help them advance within the jazz and music scene. Unwaveringly. What a loss. :/ Edited March 30, 2010 by neveronfriday Quote
king ubu Posted March 30, 2010 Report Posted March 30, 2010 Sad news - very much enjoyed his 'Rhythm Combination & Brass' recordings for MPS and really should get that box set. RIP Mr Herbolzheimer. That box didn't sound so thrilling to me - to much muscle and rock beats that didn't seem very organic with the rest of the band... I don't know his music at all though, so maybe if I stumble over that set again, I should reconsider... r.i.p. Quote
neveronfriday Posted March 30, 2010 Report Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Sad news - very much enjoyed his 'Rhythm Combination & Brass' recordings for MPS and really should get that box set. RIP Mr Herbolzheimer. [...] too much muscle and rock beats [...] that didn't seem very organic with the rest of the band... I don't know his music at all though, so maybe if I stumble over that set again, I should reconsider... r.i.p. My problem, exactly. You nailed it. A lot of his varying output was simply too generic. Edited March 30, 2010 by neveronfriday Quote
king ubu Posted March 30, 2010 Report Posted March 30, 2010 Sad news - very much enjoyed his 'Rhythm Combination & Brass' recordings for MPS and really should get that box set. RIP Mr Herbolzheimer. [...] too much muscle and rock beats [...] that didn't seem very organic with the rest of the band... I don't know his music at all though, so maybe if I stumble over that set again, I should reconsider... r.i.p. My problem, exactly. You nailed it. A lot of his varying output was simply too generic. So where to look to get familiar a bit? Are there some treasures hidden in the box that my quick sampling didn't unearth? Should I get it if the price is right? Or is there something else to look for? Quote
neveronfriday Posted March 30, 2010 Report Posted March 30, 2010 If nobody else replies, I'll get back to this in a day or two. Right now I'm too knackered. Might be like this for longer than I'd like. Quote
AllenLowe Posted March 30, 2010 Report Posted March 30, 2010 I saw his big band live in Munich, maybe 1994 - nice group. Quote
mikeweil Posted April 7, 2010 Report Posted April 7, 2010 I always had a lot of his respect for his educational and organisational activities, but his music never attracted me, too generic is just the right description. R.I.P. Quote
king ubu Posted April 8, 2010 Report Posted April 8, 2010 If nobody else replies, I'll get back to this in a day or two. Right now I'm too knackered. Might be like this for longer than I'd like. Whenever you're ready to reply, I'll be listening Quote
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