What's in the Mosaic pipeline?

[BruceH]

Was COOKIN' THE BLUES a DeFranco date or a Farlow date? Wasn't this already included on the long-gone DeFranco Mosaic?

Yes. I don't have the DeFranco Mosaic with me at the moment, but I believe that IS on it.

[Brad]

I wouldn't say "if worse comes to worse" about reprinting Dan Morgenstern's notes for the old Keynote set. Can't imagine the job being done any better.

Totally agree Larry. That's a very poor choice of words. If Verve will only give them certain "select" material, I hope that it's a little different than what came out on cd. However, since I think few people probably have that material that wouldn't be a bad anyway. This would just show how great this material is.

[Out2Lunch]

Was COOKIN' THE BLUES a DeFranco date or a Farlow date?  Wasn't this already included on the long-gone DeFranco Mosaic?

Yes. I don't have the DeFranco Mosaic with me at the moment, but I believe that IS on it.

Yes its contained on cd #4 of the De Franco Mosaic.

[Out2Lunch]

Jazzmatazz keeps listing a "Gerry Mulligan Songbook" set. Any word on that?

I don't think that they would release this so soon after the recent Mulligan CJB Mosaic. Though, I've been wrong before...

[chris olivarez]

Does it say when the Tal can be pre ordered?

[sheldonm]

I have a friend that indicates there is a set that involves Ruby Braff in the pipeline. That's all I can say at this point, but I'll try to get more details out of him in the near future.

Mark

[montg]

I'm all for the Keynote, even if it's piece by piece.

Ruby Braff--that's interesting. Hmmmmm..... Maybe a Select, with a couple of sessions from United Artists joined with some 50s releases from another label (Verve or Columbia seem to be the most 'cooperative' right now). Any hints?

Edited January 31, 2004 by montg

[brownie]

I have a friend that indicates there is a set that involves Ruby Braff in the pipeline. That's all I can say at this point, but I'll try to get more details out of him in the near future.

Mark

Great news! And about time... In previous Next Mosaic want lists, I kept asking for something on Ruby Braff. If the set materializes, hope it will include the United Artists sessions.

[BERIGAN]

...but there are First Herd gems that have never been out except on the original 78s (unless you count the bootleg "Woody in Disco Order" series). For instance, there's "That's What Uncle Remus Said," which includes what may be the scariest Sonny Berman solo on record.

MMMM, scary Sonny Berman solo! Hope they do the early Herd as well, but I bet Sony thinks it will hurt their 2 cd set sales, which I bet are nothing right about now...

[king ubu]

Many great news! Looking forward to the Farlow very much!

Liebman sounds exciting, too!

Glad the Reece will see the light of the day! I wrote Mosaic an email suggesting it right when they announced the Select series! It could also include the Duke Jordan album, maybe. Some great music, anyway!

ubu

[sheldonm]

There were two conversations going on at once when we talked about the Braff, I should have listened more carefully. I'll be seeing the guy in the near future, I'll see what I can find out!

Mark

[Larry Kart]

Berigan -- Berman's brief solo on "Uncle Remus" is one of the choicest examples of his gift for hot as a jumping bean bitonality. It's related to Dizzy, of course, but Berman had his own voice, and Lord knows what he could have done etc.....

I assume that "Uncle Remus" never made it on to LP or CD (AFIK) because of the lyrics that Herman sings.

[ghost of miles]

Please tell me that "We've gone though a number of twists and turns but the Woody Herman Columbia 1947-49 seems to be coming together and is scheduled for sometime this Spring" is an error in transcription. Damn it -- it's the large body of First Herd material from '45-'46 that's desparately in need of comprehensive Mosaic treatment (masters and alternates, with everything properbly sorted out, not mislabled and screwed up as it was on that 2-CD "Blowin' Up a Storm" set from Sony a few years back. Not that the Second Herd stuff on Columbia shouldn't get it the Mosaic treatment too, but there are First Herd gems that have never been out except on the original 78s (unless you count the bootleg "Woody in Disco Order" series). For instance, there's "That's What Uncle Remus Said," which includes what may be the scariest Sonny Berman solo on record.

Larry,

I've e-mailed Mosaic about this. I don't have a Herman discography at hand, but as far as I can ascertain, the bulk of his 1940s Columbia recordings were done in 1945 and 1946. Also, what post-1947 Columbia recordings could they be talking about? The recording ban was in effect for most of 1948, and when Herman returned to the studios he was under contract to Capitol. The whole thing is a bit puzzling--a 1947-49 Columbia set would seem to be pretty skimpy fare indeed. (Surely they're not putting recordings released in 1949 under that umbrella.) In any case, I'll post their reply when I get it.

[sjarrell]

Back to the Dizzy Reece Select- the contents are, from the friendly folks at Mosaic:

A- Dizzy Reece, Donald Byrd, trumpets; Tubby Hayes, tenor saxophone; Terry Shannon, piano; Lloyd Thompson, bass; Art Taylor, drums.

Recorded on August 24, 1958.

Originally issued as “Blues In Trinity” (Blue Note BST 84006. “Eboo” and “Just A Penny” were originally issued on the CD version of the album (CD B2-32093).

B- Dizzy Reece, trumpet; Hank Mobley, tenor saxophone; Wynton Kelly, piano; Paul Chambers, bass: Art Taylor, drums.

Recorded on November 19, 1959.

Originally issued as “Star Bright” (Blue Note BST 84023).

C- Dizzy Reece, trumpet; Walter Bishop, Jr., piano; Doug Watkins, bass; Art Taylor, drums.

Recorded on May 12, 1960.

Originally issued as “Soundin’ Off” (Blue Note BST 84033).

D- Dizzy Reece, trumpet, congas; Stanley Turrentine, tenor saxophone; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie Merritt, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

Recorded on April 3, 1960.

Originally issued on “Comin’ On” (Blue Note CD B2-22019).

E- Dizzy Reece, trumpet; Stanley Turrentine, tenor saxophone; Musa Kaleem, tenor saxophone, flute; Duke Jordan, piano; Sam Jones, bass; Al Harewood, drums.

Recorded on July 17, 1960.

Originally issued on “Comin’ On” (Blue Note CD B2-22019).

[mikeweil]

Great! I couldn't make up my mind to buy all the single Dizzy Reece CDs - now I can get them all in one stroke!

[Larry Kart]

The First Herd took shape in June 1944, made its first Columbia recordings on 2/19/45, its last recordings on 12/10/46, played its final engagement on 12/24/46. (There are or were quite a few terrific First Herd airchecks and V-discs available, which precede the band's first recordings.) The Second Herd played its first enagement on 9/16/47, made its first recordings on 12/22/47. (All this from Gene Lee's Herman bio.) Second Herd recordings from Dec. '47 include "Summer Sequence (Part IV)" (i.e. the first "Early Autumn"), "Keen and Peachy," "The Goof and I," "I've Got News for You" (with the sax-section setting of Bird's "Dark Shadows" solo -- this scored by Ralph Burns, not Shorty Rogers, the usual attribution), and "Four Brothers." Herman signed with Capitol in Dec. 1948. There was an AFM recording ban in effect for most of 1948. (There are some Second Herd airchecks from '48 though.) My guess is that the Mosaic Herman set will include all the First Herd and Second Herd Columbia material, i.e. '45-'47. There isn't enough '47 material for a single CD.

[ghost of miles]

That's what I'm thinking too, Larry. Hopefully Mosaic will confirm that they simply got the dates wrong in their reply to me. Do you have the 1944-46 live Hep double CD? Some great material there... and Hep has a new Herman double out that covers live broadcasts from 1948-49, including a Nov. 1949 Carnegie Hall concert.

[Larry Kart]

"Do you have the 1944-46 live Hep double CD?" No, but I have two Jass CDs released in 1990, "Woodchopper's Ball" and "Northwest Passage," that probably include the same (or some of the same) material.

[Gary]

. We are looking at the Keynotes now and hope to be able to do something; whether its's a Mosaic or  various Selects but it is still undetermined

This is where i look stupid !!

What is 'the keynotes'?

[mikeweil]

Keynote was a small label existing from 1940 to 1948, run first by Harry Lim until 1947, then by John Hammond. Almost every important swing musician recorded for this label, making it a treasure of small group swing. It is now owned by Universal. There was a 10-volume series with highlights from its catalogue with discs featuring Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, Roy Eldridge, Benny Carter, musicians from the Ellington and Herman orchestras, Lennie Tristano, you name it.

There was a complete edition on a multi-LP box set in Japan in the 1980's.

[Gary]

Thanks

[Man with the Golden Arm]

Back to the Dizzy Reece Select- the contents are, from the friendly folks at Mosaic:

A- Dizzy Reece, Donald Byrd, trumpets; Tubby Hayes, tenor saxophone; Terry Shannon, piano; Lloyd Thompson, bass; Art Taylor, drums.

Recorded on August 24, 1958.

Originally issued as “Blues In Trinity” (Blue Note BST 84006. “Eboo” and “Just A Penny” were originally issued on the CD version of the album (CD B2-32093).

Curious as to whether they will off Tubby's reading of "'Round Midnight" from "BiT'? That's one creamy closer to that album.

[ghost of miles]

Tried to post this yesterday but couldn't get onto the board from home, for some reason. It's Mosaic's reply to my follow-up query about the forthcoming Woody Herman Columbia set:

Sorry for the typo. The years are 1945-47 and it will be a 7 CD set.

Seven CDs! I had initially heard that it would probably be five... Sounds like a treasure trove for First Herd lovers.

Edited February 3, 2004 by ghost of miles

[Indestructible!]

Tried to post this yesterday but couldn't get onto the board from home, for some reason. It's Mosaic's reply to my follow-up query about the forthcoming Woody Herman Columbia set:

Sorry for the typo. The years are 1945-47 and it will be a 7 CD set.

Seven CDs! I had initially heard that it would probably be five... Sounds like a treasure trove for First Herd lovers.

Hi GoM,

Damn! Thanks for the good news! I'll be grabbing this one the day it comes out...

Cheers,

Shane

[desertblues]

Keynote was a small label existing from 1940 to 1948, run first by Harry Lim until 1947, then by John Hammond. Almost every important swing musician recorded for this label, making it a treasure of small group swing. It is now owned by Universal. There was a 10-volume series with highlights from its catalogue with discs featuring Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, Roy Eldridge, Benny Carter, musicians from the Ellington and Herman orchestras, Lennie Tristano, you name it.

There was a complete edition on a multi-LP box set in Japan in the 1980's.

As nice as it would be to have a Keynote Mosaic, that Japanese lp box is one of the most incredible sets ever! We're talking well over a hundred previously-unreleased tracks! I finally broke down and shelled out $250 for a very nice copy-and it even came with a Nat Hentoff review from the Wall Street Journal (1-7-87) tucked in the booklet with this: "...what appears to be one of the better mail-order prices is $179 plus $10 for shipping from Mosaic Records". List price in 1987 was $210-I wonder what a complete box would cost today? I'll bet it won't include the unreleased (and untitled) 45 by Lennie Tristano that came with the Japanese set!