Death of the iPod (Everyone's buying vinyl)

[JSngry]

9 hours ago, fasstrack said:

Nice thought, though...

? Who he, and where he?

He's got a show, Wednesday nights at 10 on USA Network. Him and his sister and a few of their pals show different ways to deal with boorish behavior like that which you describe.

[Scott Dolan]

2 hours ago, jazzbo said:

I do live in the country now, with hundreds of acres of a sate nature preserve in front of me, if I look out one window just right I can see a neighbor, and there's a lake half a mile away. I don't do music on phone, iPod, iPad, etc. and don't run into many who do, haven't been annoyed.  I'm lucky and I know it.

My phone mostly plays podcasts, about 98% of the time. The only time I use it for music is when I'm cleaning the house and plan to be moving around enough to where any one shelf system isn't going to get it done. 

Oh! And I use it for music in my truck since I'm not keen on carrying CDs around anymore. 

[fasstrack]

4 hours ago, JSngry said:

He's got a show, Wednesday nights at 10 on USA Network. Him and his sister and a few of their pals show different ways to deal with boorish behavior like that which you describe.

Rarely do I watch TV, but I'll look into it. Thanks...

[A Lark Ascending]

Not about iPhones or streaming but I had to smile at this story of advances in modern technology:

English man spends 11 hours trying to make cup of tea with Wi-Fi kettle

He'd have got his tea more quickly if he'd put a kettle on top of his Samsung Galaxy Note 7.

[A Lark Ascending]

Another flurry of Guardian vinyl stories:

Poor old music shops:

Independent thinking: can music shops survive on today's high street?

It's a new dawn!:

Tables turned as vinyl sales overtake digital sales for first time in UK

Hold on a minute: 

Vinyl indignity: record sales are up, but small labels don't see the benefit

"Little wonder, then, that records have ended up on supermarket shelves alongside the Horlicks and the Werther’s Originals."

This happens in my local Sainsbury's - a few dozen 'classic' pop/rock albums next to the exotic pastes and marinades. They know their market! 

Edited December 10, 2016 by A Lark Ascending

[sidewinder]

It's just the Guardian pandering to their hipster constituency. Set to 'ignore'. 

Give it 5 years and these berks will be discovering CDs.

Edited December 10, 2016 by sidewinder

[Scott Dolan]

Next year: 8-tracks, baby! 

[A Lark Ascending]

Gosh! I'm a hipster! Cool! Awesome, even! 

[JSngry]

They sold records in grocery stores when I was, like, 3. Not "name brand" records, mind you, but still, records in the grocery store.

[sidewinder]

4 hours ago, JSngry said:

They sold records in grocery stores when I was, like, 3. Not "name brand" records, mind you, but still, records in the grocery store.

Yep, some of the grocery stores ove here had budget labels in rotary racks such as MFP, Embassy,  Marble Arch. Woolies, for sure.

[JSngry]

Yep, records used to be everywhere (I repeat myself, here, sorry). Same with 8-tracks for a little while, and then, for a lot longer, cassettes.

Hell, I began building my gospel collection at gas stations and their bigger/louder brother, truck stops.

People have shit to sell, they're gonna be well-advised to put it where the people who want to buy it are gonna be.

[sidewinder]

Don't think 8-track ever really took off in a big way over here - although used to see them on those humongous wood-veneer quadraphonic music centres.

[JSngry]

[Scott Dolan]

7 hours ago, JSngry said:

They sold records in grocery stores when I was, like, 3. Not "name brand" records, mind you, but still, records in the grocery store.

K-tel? 

 

[JSngry]

Not that I know of, that was TV marketing, iirc. What I'm talking about isa whole sub-genre of labels, records of songs you already know by people you never heard of, or songs you ddon't know made by people you never heard in the style of whatever style was big at the time, or sometimes, a record by somebody you kinda knew who was in sore need of any kind of a break and here it was.

As the rock era moved in, more and more it would be cover of the hits of the day , "soundalike" covers that really did not sound alike, but hey, it's a grocery store and you're buying a record and hamburger and Tang all at once, what do you expect?

You can probably Google something like "supermarket record labels or something and get a better idea The catch is that sometimes, every once in a while, there would be really good players on there and you get a treat. Sometimes, not often.

[A Lark Ascending]

10 hours ago, sidewinder said:

Don't think 8-track ever really took off in a big way over here - although used to see them on those humongous wood-veneer quadraphonic music centres.

They used to sell them (and cassettes) in petrol garages. My dad had a car that came with an 8 track - we had two or three of those cheepie ones which he bought on impulse on long journeys. I had an uncle and cousin who went for them in a big way but they were spivs - went for all the nouveaux bling as it appeared. Probably had a fondue set. Definitely had a set of knives in the kitchen sink plughole designed to shred your vegetables (and your fingers) and send them into the public waste system. Ah, the 70s!   

There were quite a few musicians who went on to fame who started out doing those cheapo cover LPs they used to sell in Woolworths. Elton John is probably the best known. Amazingly, his contributions have been catalogued....somewhat extensively!:

 http://www.eltonography.com/albums/sessions/index.html

I suspect we'd find a few jazzers making ends meet on those sessions. 

Edited December 12, 2016 by A Lark Ascending

[Scott Dolan]

K-Tel records started out on TV, but as with everything "As Seen On TV", you could buy them in stores a month later. Our local Kmart had an end cap in their music section that was nothing but K-Tel records. 

[sonnymax]

"Vinyl hits 25-year high", and yet still only represent a very small percentage of overall music sales. A look at vinyl sales over the past 40+ years helps put this "revival" in perspective.

 

[A Lark Ascending]

The real story is the boom in streaming. I've read some reports that triumph the rise of vinyl sales against the fall in download sales as if there's some correlation - what seems to be happening is that an increasing number of people are finding the streaming sites more reliable, comprehensive and convenient for their purposes. The owning of physical product in whatever form seems to be restricted to the music obsessive (that would be me!) and people lured in by the contemporary 'cool' of playing vinyl on a record player. 

Interesting that the fall in vinyl sales predated the arrival of CD by a few years. Arrival of the home computer, perhaps? 

 

[Scott Dolan]

Cassette sales really took a chunk out of LP sales around that point, IIRC. 

[Scott Dolan]

Pretty cool! 

I'm wondering how the whole stylus thing works. Is it actually making surface contact? 

[Scott Dolan]

Oh yeah, I couldn't agree more. This will be more a gee whiz gadget than a highly functional record player. Kind of the Bose Acoustimass of record players. And priced accordingly, I'm sure. 

[Scott Dolan]

That's really interesting! Thanks, Rod. 

[ArtSalt]

On ‎05‎/‎01‎/‎2017 at 9:20 AM, Scott Dolan said:

Cassette sales really took a chunk out of LP sales around that point, IIRC. 

Indeed they did. Cassette's for many were the choice before vinyl for album listening. They were not considered an inferior product and there were a lot of technical advances on tape decks in the 80s that made them attractive. All the revisionist history that audiophiles were only listening to albums and that they never heard a good pre-recorded cassette tape is utter nonsense. And I know, because I was there!

[Dmitry]

I my memory prerecorded cassettes didn't sound any good. However, you could record on a good cassette deck onto a good tape from vinyl, and get excellent results.