Niko Posted yesterday at 07:34 AM Report Posted yesterday at 07:34 AM 7 hours ago, jazzbo said: Interesting. The only woman on a Patton cover that I seem to see as white is on "Got a Good Thing Goin'" and I could be convinced that was not a white woman as well if my arm were twisted and I saw stars. . . . "That Certain Feeling". . . I would see no reason to change that cover. That model reminds me of my childhood neighbor and often babysitter Iona Harris, who I thought was one of the most beautiful gals in the world at the time, and she was not a "white woman." Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post The passage is in this thesis here, just search for "white woman" https://andybleaden.blogspot.com/2007/07/thesis-on-john-patton-by-javier.html?m=1 It says clearly that Patton was offended by the cover of That Certain Feeling...(It's even implied that the cover made him so bitter he left the music scene for a while) Quote
jazzbo Posted yesterday at 10:32 AM Report Posted yesterday at 10:32 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, Niko said: The passage is in this thesis here, just search for "white woman" https://andybleaden.blogspot.com/2007/07/thesis-on-john-patton-by-javier.html?m=1 It says clearly that Patton was offended by the cover of That Certain Feeling...(It's even implied that the cover made him so bitter he left the music scene for a while) Okay, thanks. That's sad. That does not look like a white woman to me. As I say looks eerily like my African American young neighbor in Philadelphia '57 to '66. Edited yesterday at 10:35 AM by jazzbo Quote
Niko Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago 52 minutes ago, jazzbo said: Okay, thanks. That's sad. That does not look like a white woman to me. As I say looks eerily like my African American young neighbor in Philadelphia '57 to '66. I've been wondering whether the thesis is a bit inaccurate here and Patton would have been offended by any woman on his album cover regardless of color... That would be more consistent with what I know about islam Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago Groove Holmes had no problem having women on his covers. Quote
sidewinder Posted 17 hours ago Report Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Coltrane 'Live at the Village Vanguard Again' (Image posting not working - for me at least). Edited 17 hours ago by sidewinder Quote
jazzbo Posted 17 hours ago Report Posted 17 hours ago Bunny Berigan And His Orchestra “1937” Chronogical Classics cd Bunny was a great trumpeter and kept an orchestra longer than some other instrumental leaders. Fun stuff, I like listening to the studio sides. Sometime soon I should pull a handful of aircheck LPs I have out of storage for a re-listen. Quote
Holy Ghost Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago On 11/13/2025 at 3:45 PM, jazzcorner said: RJL-2551 ~52 (Japan 1982) - Sonny Rollins " After The Bridge" - rec. 1964 - Album sleeve is amazing! Now: Now, and what better tunes to listen to while repainting the kitchen😎 Quote
jazzbo Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago Milt Jackson “Mostly Duke” Pablo/OJC cd 296×300 10.5 KB Bass – Ray Brown Drums – Mickey Roker Piano – Monty Alexander Vibraphone – Milt Jackson Recorded live in London at Ronnie Scott’s; April 23-24, 1982. Milt’s vibes are vividly recorded. Quote
Holy Ghost Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago (edited) Almost late 60's Aylerish at times, great record! Just editing to wonder where would Jackie could've gone? I imagine he'd be full-blown out there by '69. So wish to hear that rejected BN session from 68. Alas.... Edited 16 hours ago by Holy Ghost Quote
jazzbo Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago (edited) Carmen McRae "Sarah--Dedicated to You" RCA cd This was Carmen’s final recording, and imo a masterpiece. Backed by the Shirley Horn Trio! Beautiful sound and beautiful sounding. 300×300 27.9 KB Edited 15 hours ago by jazzbo Quote
Holy Ghost Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Holy Ghost said: Almost late 60's Aylerish at times, great record! Now: Quote
ghost of miles Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, jazzbo said: Bunny Berigan And His Orchestra “1937” Chronogical Classics cd Bunny was a great trumpeter and kept an orchestra longer than some other instrumental leaders. Fun stuff, I like listening to the studio sides. Sometime soon I should pull a handful of aircheck LPs I have out of storage for a re-listen. Bunny must be in the air--the Berigan Mosaic has been on my revisit list of late. Right now: Quote
jazzbo Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago (edited) Nels Cline “Lovers” Blue Note 2 cd set, disc 2 Edited 12 hours ago by jazzbo Quote
jazzbo Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago Charles Mingus “Town Hall Concert” Jazz Workshop/OJC cd Alto Saxophone, Bass Clarinet, Flute – Eric Dolphy Bass, Composed By, bandleader – Charles Mingus Drums – Dannie Richmond Edited By – Charles Mingus, Frank Abbey Piano – Jaki Byard Tenor Saxophone – Clifford Jordan Trumpet – Johnny Coles Recorded April 4, 1964. Quote
jazzbo Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago Thelonious Monk Quartet and Guests “Live in Rotterdam 1967” Devialet/Lost Recordings 2 cd set, disc 2 Alto Saxophone, Guest [Guest Player] – Phil Woods Bass – Larry Gales Drums – Ben Riley Piano – Thelonious Monk Tenor Saxophone – Charlie Rouse Tenor Saxophone, Guest [Guest Player] – Johnny Griffin Trombone, Guest [Guest Player] – Jimmy Cleveland Trumpet, Guest [Guest Player] – Clark Terry, Ray Copeland Recorded at De Doelen, Rotterdam, 1967. Quote
jazzbo Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago David Bowie "Reality" ISO cd From this box set: I Can't Give Everything Away Quote
jazzbo Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago Jackie Allen “The Men in my Life” A440 Music cd I bought this for a Kurt Elling appearance but it’s a nice album on its own. Quote
Holy Ghost Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 22 hours ago, Niko said: The passage is in this thesis here, just search for "white woman" https://andybleaden.blogspot.com/2007/07/thesis-on-john-patton-by-javier.html?m=1 It says clearly that Patton was offended by the cover of That Certain Feeling...(It's even implied that the cover made him so bitter he left the music scene for a while) Really? She's cute, probally oceania, don't understand this at all however. Even Muslim men have relations with white women. Now, and tired this hasn't been made more available. Quote
Niko Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Holy Ghost said: Really? She's cute, probally oceania, don't understand this at all however. Even Muslim men have relations with white women. I don't know much about the Black Muslim organization Patton was a part of and the thesis is also not very precise on what exactly offended him... But, in the broader picture, there are Islamic traditions prohibiting pictures of all living things... Even though interacting with living things is completely ok... And practice looks more complex a lot of the time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Islam Quote
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