Hey Kids, Have You Heard The News? MOSAIC's IN TROUBLE!!!

[Dmitry]

On 5/5/2017 at 4:05 PM, Scott Dolan said:

I've known you were a troll for some time, but it's nice to see confirmation. 

 

Scott, you are the Dwight K. Schrute of this forum. 

 

[mr jazz]

and meanwhile my Hines box which I ordered over 10 days ago directly from Scott is in limbo. Card charged but nada so far despite emails and calls-none of which have been returned. All my past orders over the last 25 years or so have been shipped promptly so this is curious.

[Scott Dolan]

Did you receive a shipping confirmation number? 

[mjzee]

1 hour ago, mr jazz said:

and meanwhile my Hines box which I ordered over 10 days ago directly from Scott is in limbo. Card charged but nada so far despite emails and calls-none of which have been returned. All my past orders over the last 25 years or so have been shipped promptly so this is curious.

I think they're struggling, probably because of too few employees.  I used to get shipping notices with tracking information (I always choose UPS), but my last few orders didn't have that.  The orders did arrive, though.

[mr jazz]

1 hour ago, Scott Dolan said:

Did you receive a shipping confirmation number? 

I did receive an email on the 2nd saying my order had been sent to the warehouse for shipping. 

1 hour ago, mjzee said:

I think they're struggling, probably because of too few employees.  I used to get shipping notices with tracking information (I always choose UPS), but my last few orders didn't have that.  The orders did arrive, though.

and the Hines box is gone so I hope my box was reserved!

[Scott Dolan]

2 hours ago, mr jazz said:

I did receive an email on the 2nd saying my order had been sent to the warehouse for shipping. 

Ah, OK. Same here. Did your email also say:

"Please note that we are behind in shipping and we expect to ship your order in the 5 - 7 days.

You will receive a notice with tracking # when the warehouse ships."

My guess is that mjzee is right on the money. Too few employees, combined with a severe glut of orders over the last five days probably have them deep in the weeds. I would think if they've sent your order to the shipping warehouse, it is reserved in your name. 

[sidewinder]

Just had a message back from Scott in which he mentioned that there was the 'possibility' of the JPJ set coming back by the years end - if all goes well. Caveat emptor all round but - fingers crossed !

Another thumbs up for the Mosaic Gazette too ! 

Edited May 8, 2017 by sidewinder

[ghost of miles]

7 hours ago, Dmitry said:

Scott, you are the Dwight K. Schrute of this forum. 

 

Did somebody mention Dwight K. Schrute? 

The Office fire drill

[Scott Dolan]

 

I've never seen a single episode of that show, but that was hilarious!

 

[alonwa]

1 hour ago, sidewinder said:

Just had a message back from Scott in which he mentioned that there was the 'possibility' of the JPJ set coming back by the years end - if all goes well. Caveat emptor all round but - fingers crossed !

Another thumbs up for the Mosaic Gazette too ! 

Hope the JPJ does materialize and also hope the Clifford Jordan Strata-East set is made available again.

[mikeweil]

I will sure get a JPJ box when it comes back!

Received shipping confirmation from Jazz Messengers for the Hines box today. 

[Clunky]

2 hours ago, sidewinder said:

Just had a message back from Scott in which he mentioned that there was the 'possibility' of the JPJ set coming back by the years end - if all goes well. Caveat emptor all round but - fingers crossed !

Another thumbs up for the Mosaic Gazette too ! 

i had a similar  message from Scott re JPJ.

 

Perhaps the Justice for JPJ pressure group is already working....:)

 

Edited May 8, 2017 by Clunky
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[Ed S]

2 hours ago, Clunky said:

i had a similar  message from Scott re JPJ.

 

Perhaps the Justice for JPJ pressure group is already working....:)

 

Based on what I've read here - seems like the pressure group has been very successful in delivering the message 

[mr jazz]

8 hours ago, mr jazz said:

I did receive an email on the 2nd saying my order had been sent to the warehouse for shipping. 

and the Hines box is gone so I hope my box was reserved!

heard from Scott so things seem to be ok!

[crisp]

Thanks to the JPJ Pressure Group for all the promising news.

(JPJ, JPJ, how many Mosaics did you order today?)

Edited May 9, 2017 by crisp

[Brad]

Just catching up with this thread and talked to Scott.  Just submitted an order for the Fitzgerald and Chick Webb set.  Will order the JPJ set when it's available. 

[ArtSalt]

I sincerely hope that Mosaic can continue their superlative mission as it would be a great loss if the label has to end. Who could replace them in terms of breadth of scope, sound quality and historic accuracy of session notes?

I've been buying Mosaic sets since the mid-2000's directly, through the jazz centre here in The Hague and also through ebay for earlier sets. In saying that, I still only own 39 box sets and essentials have slipped through. My biggest issue is the seemingly arbitrary expensive import duties imposed by the authorities here. I fell out with J.A.W. over this a couple years back on this forum and his position was that one needs to just grin and bear it, don't challenge and he was off! But it really is a deal breaker when you're hit with import duties on the cost of the courier along with the product. It's mean and a barrier to purchasing. I've stopped buying stuff directly from North America because of this. The last thing I purchased was a J.Press blazer and I was hit with nearly €300 in import duties! The one exception is Brooks Brothers who you can now purchase online with these hidden costs now included. I like this.

As already discussed and also not wanted to be discussed, the dreaded download/digital format is crucial to any debate on music labels. So we ignore it at our peril.

The record labels royally or royalty wise screwed up on the downloading and streaming services. They got the worse deal possible and have made the selling of music by an artist a profession that is no longer viable in most cases. You need to be playing live to make a living now. Of course, jazz music was always like that!

I still believe that the record industry can be saved and made viable again through fair paying digital means. I really do and don't see Mosaic is an exception to this. Limited edition downloads and electronic booklets could work, no problem. Now, a canny idea would be the whole of the back catalogue renegotiated and made available digitally.

[sidewinder]

Art - I hear you. 10 years ago the shipping to Europe was a lot less,  customs fees were often waivered and the £ bought not far off $2. How times change..

Edited May 9, 2017 by sidewinder

[Bluesnik]

57 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

Scott must be getting a real ear-pounding about the JPJ set..

Yes, because I also ordered it a couple of days ago. It was always high on my list.

[David Ayers]

@ArtSalt We already mentioned that the owners will not licence downloads and streaming to Mosaic. Instead they market these themselves, e.g. Hines, Threadgill, Rivers, and others. 

[Scott Dolan]

56 minutes ago, David Ayers said:

@ArtSalt We already mentioned that the owners will not licence downloads and streaming to Mosaic. Instead they market these themselves, e.g. Hines, Threadgill, Rivers, and others. 

Again, we do not know this for a fact. All we know is that current licensing agreements don't allow Mosaic to market downloads, or streaming. 

[alankin]

1 hour ago, Scott Dolan said:

Again, we do not know this for a fact. All we know is that current licensing agreements don't allow Mosaic to market downloads, or streaming. 

That is what Michael Cuscuna said.

[Scott Dolan]

1 hour ago, alankin said:

That is what Michael Cuscuna said.

No, he did not. He said they didn't currently have digital/streaming rights. He said nothing about the possibility of renegotiating the licensing rights packages. 

[ArtSalt]

Exactly, it can be negotiated and a complete Mosaic back catalogue digital/streaming delight would be the ultimate....

[ElginThompson]

Genuinely surprised that the Ahmad Jamal set is still available. Maybe folks have it in other formats.

High price point, but such terrific music. One of my favorites.