felser Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 More straight ahead overall than my usual BFT's, hopefully some discoveries and some surprises (such as the last cut) for those who check it out. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. As always, thanks to Thom Keith for loading and hosting the BFT ; http://thomkeith.net/index.php/blindfold-tests/ and select BFT 189. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Track 7: Rollins composition, "Airegin" Track 9: An extended Jazz Messengers performance, perhaps? Certainly a composition recorded by them on Blue Note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 8 hours ago, felser said: More straight ahead overall than my usual BFT's, hopefully some discoveries and some surprises (such as the last cut) for those who check it out. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Alrighty then ... perhaps this regular compiler will have some of those thoughts for you ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Dan Gould said: Alrighty then ... perhaps this regular compiler will have some of those thoughts for you ... Cool, thanks! But no Gene Harris 8 hours ago, BillF said: Track 7: Rollins composition, "Airegin" Track 9: An extended Jazz Messengers performance, perhaps? Certainly a composition recorded by them on Blue Note. 7 - Yes, my favorite Newk comp. my purpose is the personnel playing it. Who is the tenor player? Who is the pianist? 9 - Yes, Jazz Messengers, no, not something they recorded on BN (or on any studio album). But it is a fairly well-known composition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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felser Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, JSngry said: #'s 1,7, and 9. Jim, your thoughts on #7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I knew it was Eric Alexander by the second solo chorus because it was so very competent and so very boring and so very almost sounding like George Coleman. I mean, the guy does what he does, always, readily identifiable, I think. If nothing else, kudos for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Track #2 has that Coltrane vibe from the Atlantic days, though obviously it's someone different and newer. Nice solo on the trombone. On #5 I'll make a wild guess and say Stephon Harris. Some fine work on the drums. Number 6 is interesting, like Yusef Lateef meeting Return to Forever. I don't know who it really is. Number 7 is "Love Theme from Spartacus," which has been recorded by many jazz artists. Beautiful piece, and I love this orchestral version. Sounds a bit in the Gil Evans mode. Maybe Bob Belden? I believe #9 is "Children of the Night," although I don'k know this very lengthy version. Edited December 3, 2019 by Milestones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Milestones said: Track #2 has that Coltrane vibe from the Atlantic days, though obviously it's someone different and newer. Nice solo on the trombone. On #5 I'll make a wild guess and say Stephon Harris. Some fine work on the drums. Number 6 is interesting, like Yusef Lateef meeting Return to Forever. I don't know who it really is. Number 7 is "Love Theme from Spartacus," which has been recorded by many jazz artists. Beautiful piece, and I love this orchestral version. Sounds a bit in the Gil Evans mode. Maybe Bob Belden? I believe #9 is "Children of the Night," although I don'k know this very lengthy version. #2 actually isn't that much newer than the Atlantic Coltrane's, though it does post-date them. #5 not Harris. The drummer is not well-known. I am otherwise unfamiliar with him, though I know the work of the vibes player and bass player well. #6 is interesting in its lineage. That's #8 which is "Love Theme From Spartacus". Not Evans, but someone that has been compared to him at times. Not Belden. #8 is not "Children of the Night", but it is a reasonably well-known (and beautiful) composition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Is "Spartacus" by Maria Schneider? Wow, that tune sounds very close to "Children of the Night." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Milestones said: Is "Spartacus" by Maria Schneider? Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 10 hours ago, felser said: ... #5 not Harris. The drummer is not well-known. I am otherwise unfamiliar with him, though I know the work of the vibes player and bass player well. ... I'm thinking Khan Jamal (partly a guess, knowing felser), but don't have time to research right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, T.D. said: I'm thinking Khan Jamal (partly a guess, knowing felser), but don't have time to research right now. You do know me, #5 is Khan Jamal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, felser said: You do know me, #5 is Khan Jamal . #5 is Bloom, from One of several Jamal recordings I own; got into him after purchasing Drum Dance to the Motherland on this forum based on felser's recommendation... Drummer Leroy Lowe is pretty much unknown to me, though he also appears on Jamal's quartet album Dark Warrior (with Dyani on bass and Charles Tyler (!) on alto/bari). Edited December 3, 2019 by T.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, T.D. said: #5 is Bloom, from One of several Jamal recordings I own; got into him after purchasing Drum Dance to the Motherland on this forum based on felser's recommendation... Drummer Leroy Lowe is pretty much unknown to me, though he also appears on Jamal's quartet album Dark Warrior (with Dyani on bass and Charles Tyler (!) on alto/bari). Indeed. I love Jamal's Steeplechase albums, they really knew how to get the best from him (and from Walt Dickerson). His work on some other labels is more scattershot, though rewarding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I have to to say I've never even HEARD OF Khan Jamal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Milestones said: I have to to say I've never even HEARD OF Khan Jamal. You have now! Philly guy, so I've been familiar with him since the 70's when I hung out at 3rd Street Jazz soaking in the sights and sounds. Worth checking into further if you like what you heard here: Name Year Publishment Drumdance to the Motherland 1972 Dogtown Give the Vibes Some 1974 Palm Records The River 1978 Philly Jazz, with Bill Lewis Infinity 1984) Stash 278 Dark Warrior 1984 SteepleChase Three 1985 SteepleChase The Traveller 1985 SteepleChase Thinking of You 1986 Storyville Speak Easy 1988 Gazell Don't Take No 1989 Vintage Jazz Percussion&Strings 1997 CIMP Cubano Chant 2001 Jambrio 1002 Balafon Dance 2002 CIMP Cool 2002 Jambrio Black Awareness 2005 CIMP Return from Exile 2005 Philly Jazz Fire and Water 2007 CIMP with Dylan Taylor, Bass Impressions of Coltrane 2009 SteepleChase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aparxa Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1. Wonderful track. I have never heard of the Visitors before today. The record is on my wishlist ! 2. A tyneresque pianist with the vibe of Jazz Contemporaries. I liked it from start to finish and only recognized the India's outro. Tyner or Mabern? 3. Sacrebleu, not Fauré ! It reminded first of a masterful use of Pavane in the Sopranos, and now I also want to watch Life of Brian! Great fun track! 4. I like the atmosphere. A bit of an early Jazz Crusaders. 6. It sure has the mood of Lateef! 8. Great arrangements from Schneider & solo. The saxophonist reminds me a bit of Alour. 9. The trumpet attack is sooo Woody ! Ilistened to this concert quite a bit when compiling the discography of Shaw. A great set in his sessionography in the 60's along with the ones with Horace Silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 3.12.2019 at 8:07 PM, felser said: I love Jamal's Steeplechase albums, they really knew how to get the best from him (and from Walt Dickerson). .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, aparxa said: 1. Wonderful track. I have never heard of the Visitors before today. The record is on my wishlist ! It's a really fine album by an overlooked Philly group. The Grubbs brothers are Coltrane's nephews. Sid Simmons played for many decades in the Philly area. The bass player on most of the tracks is a very young Stanley Clarke. 2. A tyneresque pianist with the vibe of Jazz Contemporaries. I liked it from start to finish and only recognized the India's outro. Tyner or Mabern? Not Tyner or Mabern, but a very interesting musician. 3. Sacrebleu, not Fauré ! It reminded first of a masterful use of Pavane in the Sopranos, and now I also want to watch Life of Brian! Great fun track! Life of Brian indeed 4. I like the atmosphere. A bit of an early Jazz Crusaders. This will be an interesting reveal if no one ID's it. 6. It sure has the mood of Lateef! It does, but not him. Another interesting reveal. 8. Great arrangements from Schneider & solo. The saxophonist reminds me a bit of Alour. Schneider rules in my book as far as large group arranging. Saw her group several years ago at the Philly Art Museum along with a bunch of other board members - very memorable concert. 9. The trumpet attack is sooo Woody ! Ilistened to this concert quite a bit when compiling the discography of Shaw. A great set in his sessionography in the 60's along with the ones with Horace Silver. Yes, I just discovered this concert in the past year, was blown away by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 So track #9 is "The Moontrane." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Milestones said: So track #9 is "The Moontrane." Indeed it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aparxa Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 05/12/2019 at 10:12 PM, felser said: I look forward to the identification or the reveal of the tunes ! I still think I should know better about the second track. Thanks for the truly enjoyable selection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, aparxa said: I look forward to the identification or the reveal of the tunes ! I still think I should know better about the second track. Thanks for the truly enjoyable selection! Thank you! #2 is the most difficult track to identify on this BFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Is #4 either Phil Ranelin or Dick Griffin? Also, the drummer on #2 is not Elvin or Roy Haynes, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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