Don Randi Curtis Amy Jungle Adventure

[Teasing the Korean]

Does anyone know anything about this LP? I can't find it on the InterTubes.

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Edited May 17, 2020 by Teasing the Korean

[Dan Gould]

Only that you would be interested and I wouldn't.

[Niko]

I stumbled upon that LP on discogs recently when I looked into the origins of that great Lee Katzman album with Jack Wilson and Teddy Edwards... apparently Toots Camarata started two labels in the mid-60s, Coliseum and Palomar, produced a few sessions and albums but didn't quite live up to his original ambition... there's the Curtis Amy album on Palomar some of which I've heard and didn't particularly like, I'd call it overproduced and would expect more of the same on the Randi Amy LP.... there's on overlap in tracks between this LP and the Amy LP (e.g. Sunrise Sunset) so I'd guess this record is a compilation, especially given that Randi also recorded several times for Coliseum and Palomar (with more overlap in tracks e.g. Baby Elephant Walk) ... the Katzman album is a fairly straight Hard Bop session which I guess is the reason why it stayed in the can...

https://www.discogs.com/label/300238-Coliseum-3

https://www.discogs.com/label/132500-Palomar

[JSngry]

But look, timmy, it's on a reel!

[Teasing the Korean]

1 hour ago, Niko said:

I stumbled upon that LP on discogs recently when I looked into the origins of that great Lee Katzman album with Jack Wilson and Teddy Edwards... apparently Toots Camarata started two labels in the mid-60s, Coliseum and Palomar, produced a few sessions and albums but didn't quite live up to his original ambition... there's the Curtis Amy album on Palomar some of which I've heard and didn't particularly like, I'd call it overproduced and would expect more of the same on the Randi Amy LP.... there's on overlap in tracks between this LP and the Amy LP (e.g. Sunrise Sunset) so I'd guess this record is a compilation, especially given that Randi also recorded several times for Coliseum and Palomar (with more overlap in tracks e.g. Baby Elephant Walk) ... the Katzman album is a fairly straight Hard Bop session which I guess is the reason why it stayed in the can...

https://www.discogs.com/label/300238-Coliseum-3

https://www.discogs.com/label/132500-Palomar

Thanks. So when you talk about the overlap, are Don and Curtis playing together on the same tunes, or are some tunes by one and some by the other?

Who is Toots Camarata? Any relation to the conductor?

[Niko]

The lineup for the Amy album from here certainly looks good and doesn't include Randi:

Curtis Amy soprano and tenor saxophones
Warren Gale, Jr. trumpet
Lester Robertson trombone
Horace Tapscott piano
Eddie Mathias bass
Mel Lee drums
Onzy Matthews arranger

but the clips don't sound like what one might hope (this track seems to be on both LPs and on a 45...)

no clue about the lineups for the Randi tracks - they might well include Amy, why not...

[mikeweil]

The Lord Disco lists two Don Randi sessions for Palomar, but none of the titles on the tape label pictured above is among them.

No Amy session with any of the titles listed, just two others for Palomar. Jordi Pujol probably knows.

[Niko]

8 hours ago, mikeweil said:

The Lord Disco lists two Don Randi sessions for Palomar, but none of the titles on the tape label pictured above is among them.

No Amy session with any of the titles listed, just two others for Palomar. Jordi Pujol probably knows.

I am wondering what those two Amy sessions are... "Sunrise, Sunset" appears on that tape, on the album and on additional singles, leaving relatively little room for additional sessions... There is Bongo Blue / Theme from Hot September which sounds better than Sunrise, Sunset and does come from a different session... Still I am puzzled: The lineup I posted above, is that in Lord? Are they maybe only responsible for part of the album?

[Daniel A]

The liner notes on the Jungle Adventure album imply that the three groups play separately on different tracks. "By assigning the assorted melodies to each group individually, Camarata has also come up with a programming adventure". Sorry if this is not news (I haven't heard the album myself). 

[Teasing the Korean]

Thanks all. Is this Camarata guy related to the conductor?

[mikeweil]

The Sounds Of Broadway/The Sounds Of Hollywood : Warren Gale (tp) Lester Robinson (tb) Curtis Army (sop,ts) Horace Tapscott (p) Eddie Mathias (b) or Herbie Lewis (b) Mel Lee (d) + strings including Harold Schneider (cello) and horns, Onzy Matthews (arr,cond)

Hollywood, CA, 1965

	Goldfinger	Palomar G24003
	Get me to the church on time	-
	Dear heart	-
	A spoonful of sugar	-
	Love line	-
	Fiddler on the roof	-
	Now I have everything	-
	Of human bondage	-
	Sunrise, sunset	-
	Guess who I saw today	-

Note:

Palomar G24003(mono) = GS34003(stereo).

 

Just one Amy session for Palomar listed in Lord - my mistake - sorry!

But how about this:

Jungle Adventure In Music And Sound : Curtis Amy (ts) Ron Randi (p) unknown (b), (d), The Exotic Strings (strings)

prob. Los Angeles, 1966

	Tropical safari	Coliseum D41002
	Ceremonial rain dance	-
	Sleepy lagoon	-
	Similau	-
	Passion flower	-
	Baby elephant walk	-
	Tarzan	-
	Sunrise, sunset	-
	Sacred idol	-
	In the still of the night	-

Note:

Coliseum D41002(mono) = DS51002(stereo). Some, or all, titles also on London (E)HAU/SHU8310.

The misspelling "Ron Randi" is typical for some entries in Lord.

To make things complete, the Randi sessions:

Mexican Pearls : Don Randi (p) Tommy Tedesco (g) Jacques Gasselin, Dan Lube (vln) Bill Pittman (g) Jimmy Bond, Ray Pohlman (b) Hal Blaine (d) Jack Nitzsche (arr)

Hollywood, CA, early 1960's

	Mexican pearls	Palomar G24002/GS34002
	I don't want to be kissed	-
	Follow me	-
	Spanish Harlem	-

Note:

See mid 1960's for rest of LP.

 

Don Randi (p) Dick Brandt (b) John Clauder (d)

Hollywood, CA, mid 1960's

	A lot of livin' to do	Palomar G24002/GS34002
	Grampa's still	-
	My funny Valentine	-
	The Randi sermon	-
	John Brown's body	-
	Theme from "Mondo Cane"	-
	Bass blues	-
	Thistle down	-

Note:

Palomar G24002(mono) = GS34002(stereo).

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by mikeweil

[Teasing the Korean]

Thanks for sharing!