Covid Vaccination Poll Update

[JSngry]

10 hours ago, Guy Berger said:

Variolation

“The procedure was most commonly carried out by inserting/rubbing powdered smallpox scabs or fluid from pustules into superficial scratches made in the skin.”

I was born in 1955, and that's not too terribly different from how I got mine, how all the kids got it. We all had these little tiny but visible scars on the arm from where we got the smallpox vaccine. It wasn't a shot, there was no hypodermic involved.

[Dan Gould]

11 hours ago, Guy Berger said:

Variolation

“The procedure was most commonly carried out by inserting/rubbing powdered smallpox scabs or fluid from pustules into superficial scratches made in the skin.”

So basically it was a variation on "let's introduce the virus to trigger an immune response" but long before anyone had a clue about it? Its remarkable to me to think that the man who ordered this treatment to his troops would end up dying of what was probably an easily survivable cold, due to "modern" medical practices of the time.  How could Small Pox innoculations co-exist with "bleeding" as medical treatments?

Theodoric of York, Medieval Barber, anyone?

 

[Guy Berger]

55 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:

So basically it was a variation on "let's introduce the virus to trigger an immune response" but long before anyone had a clue about it? Its remarkable to me to think that the man who ordered this treatment to his troops would end up dying of what was probably an easily survivable cold, due to "modern" medical practices of the time.  How could Small Pox innoculations co-exist with "bleeding" as medical treatments?

But unlike “bleeding”, variolation actually worked!  It was better than “naturally acquired” smallpox, worse than modern vaccination.

7 hours ago, mjazzg said:

And we talk about vaccine hesitancy today!

If you read the articles I shared, it’s pretty interesting - there was a lot of resistance to the adoption of variolation, despite its effectiveness.  Seems like some of this is hardwired into our brains or at least our society

[BillF]

https://time.com/5542895/mary-montagu-smallpox/

[JSngry]

[kh1958]

Only three degrees of separation from Governor Frostbite to the organissimo board.

Though the photo of Vaughan with the governor was posted at 1:13 p.m., it's not clear when it was taken. Incubation periods for COVID-19 can range from two days to two weeks.

Related:Jimmie Vaughan talks the joy of the blues

The governor's Twitter post included two photos: One of Vaughan and Abbott, and another also including Vaughan's wife, Robin, and their two daughters.

Abbott's post reads: "Honor to meet with @JimmieVaughan — brother of Stevie Ray Vaughan and a legendary Texas musician in his own right. Hope to catch your show in September at the @ErwinCenter."

Vaughan is scheduled to open for Eric Clapton at the Erwin Center on Sept. 15. He also recently returned to his semi-regular weekend residency at South Congress club C-Boy's. Vaughan and keyboardist Mike Flanigin performed there on Aug. 6-7 and 13-14; their next booking at the club is Sept. 3-4.

[sgcim]

On 8/18/2021 at 9:20 PM, JSngry said:

To the Chorus of Shocking Blues; "Venus" to Mr. anti-mask mandate Abbott!

"He's got it

Oh baby he's got it

He's got COVID

He's got COVID and now he's crying..."

[JSngry]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/politics/roger-wicker-tests-positive-covid/index.html

The virus is non-partisan (who knew?!?!?!) and apparently (increasingly?) not particularly  interested in how long you think your vaccine is going to last?

We should take comfort that "breakthrough" cases will not fuck us up hardly any at all? Even if it means that the virus is staying alive and looking for more evolved ways to do so? This is supposed to make me happy?

Can we all stop playing games with this shit NOW, please?

Of course not, but I am obligated to ask anyway....

[riddlemay]

I'm now hearing from friends who have serious-enough cases despite being vaccinated, masked, and cautious.

[jlhoots]

10 minutes ago, riddlemay said:

I'm now hearing from friends who have serious-enough cases despite being vaccinated, masked, and cautious.

That's disturbing.

[Brad]

7 hours ago, riddlemay said:

I'm now hearing from friends who have serious-enough cases despite being vaccinated, masked, and cautious.

That’s the approach I’m following. 

[Tom 1960]

I can't say with any degree of certainty but I had all the classic symptoms a few weeks back despite being vaccinated. Developed a serious cough and stuffiness with congestion and some shortness of breath. Ran a slight fever with achiness and fatigue. Instead of getting tested I  decided to lay low for 10 days and see how things transpired. Feel much better despite the cough that has lingered to some extent. Going forward whenever I find myself in an indoor setting I am now back to wearing a mask.

[jazzbo]

Sorry to hear that. I felt pretty crappy for a few days but it was so short-lived I am not sure it's COVID related. I've gone back to wearing a mask. . .in part because so few are wearing them around here, and less than have the persons in the county elegible to be vaccinated have been so . . .there are a lot of liars out there not wearing masks when they should be.

[Teasing the Korean]

I came down with some sort of cold/flu last week, and I got tested right away.  Too many cases where I live.  It came back negative, thankfully, but I"m still under the weather.

If I so much as sneeze, I'm getting tested.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Teasing the Korean

[Jason Bivins]

Same with my wife. She even had some taste and breathing issues. We're quarantining. I'm pretty positive I brought it home from campus last week, since my wife basically doesn't go anywhere (immunocompromised). Thankfully she's feeling okay today.

[Tom 1960]

Today the state of Maine recorded the most new cases since January. With cooler temperatures coming soon I can't imagine where we're headed to.

[Guy Berger]

5 hours ago, Tom 1960 said:

Today the state of Maine recorded the most new cases since January. With cooler temperatures coming soon I can't imagine where we're headed to.

The San Francisco Bay Area's experience over the past 2 months suggests that Vermont and Maine should be somewhat worried about the winter... 70% vaccination rate *of the entire population* (incl people who are not eligible; much higher than the national average) is insufficient on its own to prevent a large wave unless complemented with a big slug of infection-induced immunity.  And like San Francisco, Vermont and Maine weathered the pandemic really well up to this point, i.e. most of the people who are unvaccinated don't have immunity from prior infection.

That said, the SFBA's summer wave had much lower hospitalizations and deaths than its winter wave despite probably being larger in terms of total cases.  And unlike the winter when there were a lot of restrictions, we had zero restrictions (aside from the indoor mask mandate) this time around.  So there's a silver lining - vaccines have made COVID far, far less deadly (as expected).

[Tom 1960]

3 hours ago, Guy Berger said:

The San Francisco Bay Area's experience over the past 2 months suggests that Vermont and Maine should be somewhat worried about the winter... 70% vaccination rate *of the entire population* (incl people who are not eligible; much higher than the national average) is insufficient on its own to prevent a large wave unless complemented with a big slug of infection-induced immunity.  And like San Francisco, Vermont and Maine weathered the pandemic really well up to this point, i.e. most of the people who are unvaccinated don't have immunity from prior infection.

That said, the SFBA's summer wave had much lower hospitalizations and deaths than its winter wave despite probably being larger in terms of total cases.  And unlike the winter when there were a lot of restrictions, we had zero restrictions (aside from the indoor mask mandate) this time around.  So there's a silver lining - vaccines have made COVID far, far less deadly (as expected).

The one difference I am seeing this go around is that a lot of states in the U.S.. are getting maxed out in terms of hospitalization. This wasn't a real problem prior at least not here in Maine in the past. Now it's beginning to become a problem. What these idiots fail to understand speaking of the unvaccinated , ifsomeone has a serious health issue they may have difficulty finding a bed going forward. That's a real big problem. People screaming about they want their freedom. Yeah let's see how that works out for you if you get sick and there's no room for you at your hospital now. 

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Maine has less than 40 open ICU beds available in the whole state at this time. This could have serious ramifications for pediatric care as these ICU beds take away from that.

https://www.wabi.tv/2021/08/27/maine-hospital-officials-warn-about-shortage-icu-beds/