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What rock music are you listening to? Non-Jazz, Non-Classical.
Balladeer replied to EKE BBB's topic in Miscellaneous Music
JJ Cale - Stay Around (Because Music) - Today
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From “Enjoying the Ride,” the 60th anniversary box set from the Grateful Dead. Capitol Theatre, Port Chester, NY (2/24/71) disc 1
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What Classical Music Are You Listening To?
JSngry replied to StarThrower's topic in Classical Discussion
Check this out,: Maybe it's all in my head, but I get a special thrill from hearing things like this, now-conventional pieces being played in their original non-traditional state. There's a certain ..rawness there that exists to me -
Arista Novus: https://www.discogs.com/label/56111-Arista-Novus Steve Backer probably took the Novus name to RCA after Arista dropped it.
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October 2004 Connoisseur Release (Proposed)
Holy Ghost replied to Kevin Bresnahan's topic in Re-issues
Miss this series along with the RVG's, and Deep Grooves. Era's that have ended, but wow, the material they brought back to life! -
Columbia Pictures was never related to Columbia Records. Columbia Pictures had Colpix (Nina Simone, Woody Allen, Dick Gregory, so), which then became Colgems (The Monkees). After Clive Davis got fired from Columbia Records, he was hired on at Columbia Pictures (as a consultant) and then to Bell Records (as president). Columbia Picture had recently bought Bell. Davis was looking to get this beast all under his control, and the Bell name was changed to Arista. Barry Manilow began on Bell, but soon was on Arista. Same with Melissa Manchester. Alas, The Fifth Dimension did not make the transition. They had good hits on Bell, though! And yes, this was the same Bell that had The Box Tops. The label was around long before that, too!
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Makes sense. Columbia Pictures makes sense as Clive Davis was an excutive at CBS at the time (I don't know about the movies) and get the Columbia connection, but Novus I thought was RCA's 'advant garde' wing, kinda like 'Virgin Venture' was Virgin's. Nice insight, this is a interesting story, thank you all for your imput.
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At most of this time Arista was owned by Columbia Pictures (the original owners). They never owned RCA, although BMG later came to own both of them. And Sony came to own them! That's the only Freedom cover of Indent, which was originally on Cecil's own label. Unit Core. Can't tell of what that picture is, sorry. Clifford might know.
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That first sleeve is sick! Are those all people in that photo? Is that the orignal Freedom jacket?
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That's gotta be it. Another case in point: becoming
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This sleeve is badder-asser than the one I have. Murky it may be, but I love detective stories, and this one is a goodin'. Arista Novus? Wasn't that part of RCA or did Arista own RCA by then?
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You gotta let go of the notion that there was a straight line between Freedom and Black Lion. It's not that simple or linear. What it is is convoluted. This Alan Bates guy seemed to have more than one ball in the air at any given time. And some of the Arista/Freedom covers were based on the Freedom covers, but some weren't. Again, it seems to be related to the recency of the recording. I would wonder if Bates worked with Arista to get the covers synced at some point. Arista had money, Real money. Clive Davis money LOL. The people who cared were bummed when the series was discontinued, but Arista and Arista Novus did right for a little bit after that. Michael was in all of this. God only knows what that dance looked like ..
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Lols, well yeah, the storm looked a whole lot nastier in the first Freedom sleeve, then the second Arista/Freedom sleeve. Cecil photo looks right for the time.
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yeah, that's all pretty accurate. The Hemphill LP cover looks like this: I assume Cuscuna licensed this, Dogon A.D., the Lakes, and the HAE LPs from their prospective owners. Both HAE records came out on Universal Justice originally, while Dogon was on Hemphill's Mbari imprint. I will admit it's all very murky.
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That's the first cover, but it's a Freedom record released by Polydor. In the fine print down there, it only mentions Freedom. Nothing about Polydor. But that's a wild cover, only roughly in line with the series. My guess is that the covers of the newer recordings were more in line with what Arista did than the older ones (or vice-versa). You see what they did there? But at some point, everybody got on the same page:
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But wasn't the Cowell originally a Polydor release? Then got a "Black Lion/Freedom" redo? Isn't this the original sleeve as it gets? Right, I keep on overlooking your point, Arista. Later Freedoms, right, and that art direction was consistent. Clive Davis ran Arista then, right? Makes sense now.
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I was conversing with @Holy Ghost, and he'll take October. Looking forward to that!
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Arista gave the series a "consistent look". Freedom dances around a bit. Sometimes there was some cross-referencing. Sometimes, as with the Cowell, not.
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Okay, why does the Shepp set look so different from the Hill jacket, Spiral? Like the Freedoms have a style, but the Shepp's don't look like the typical Freedoms. LIke the Hill does look like a typical Freedom: What's up with the weird inconsistencies? Like the Hemphill: Is this an original Freedom release? Love the music. I know that Dogan AD is not, is this another oddity Alan Bates label pick up?
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For what it's worth, and back to the OP, there are a lot of non-Bates Polydor jazz records as well. yes.