Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 .....that Tommy Flanagan's 'Lonely Town' has been out in JPN as both a King pressing and a TOCJ but hasn't seen the light of day over here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Because over here, it really is a lonely town? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Should heads roll for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Only doobies rolling. It is a fairly boring date and wouldn't sell much over 700 copies in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 So a '59 trio date with Flanagan, Elvin Jones and Joe Benjamin that hasn't previously been released in the US and would be released as a BN will only sell 700? Interesting. How about the 2 riveting hours worth of Hill's solo piano that's in the works? Sales prediction on that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Hill is currently riding a "popularity" peak (partially 'cause of his health, and partially his recent good press for Passing Ships, the Select and the "new date) and TF isn't. For my own tastes, all the Hills mentioned are more interesting than the unissued UA date from 1959. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I'm with Chuck on this one. Lonely Town is cool. . . but. . . well. . . boring after a few spins. There is better Flanagan with Elveen. I'm looking forward to the Hill. I can almost guarantee that the Hill will entertain me more. . I've not heard a second of it yet but I'm intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 For my own tastes, all the Hills mentioned are more interesting than the unissued UA date from 1959. So, you DO have it in your collection then, yes? Fine that it's not your cup of tea....it is mine....and I'm sure that, in the vast universe of 'hungry for unissued material' souls out there, more than 700 could be counted on to pony up the requisite funds to have a listen for themselves and bypass your and my weighty reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) I had it. I sold it. I'm hungrier for other stuff. Edited June 22, 2006 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I had it. I sold it. I'm hungrier for other stuff. So did I. I remember how excited I was when I spotted it at the Groove and pounced before anyone else. Then I got it and I went zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 The one that EMI has tentacles in that makes me go "Why is it" is the Golden Boy Art Blakey lp. Okay, Reiner tells us the original tapes are lost. Didn't stop the powers that EMI-be from releasing a few Blue Note cds among others. It's an interesting date. Would turn a few heads I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I still have my vinyl copy. I can't say I have any inclination to get it out. If it wasn't for the Blue Note label I probably would have passed on it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Which vinyl? The Flanagan? The Blakey? Did either ever appear on Blue Note vinyl? (curious). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 So, you DO have it in your collection then, yes? I got the King lp when issued and dumped it long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Only doobies rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 ZZZZZZZZZZZZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Well, I guess I would be one of the 700 to buy this if it came out, I happen to dig TF very much -- especially his work on the JJ Mosaic is very cool. Sorry, at this point, I've lost all interest in Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 ZZZZZZZZZZZZ I feel like a fish swimming hard upstream here.....but I'll not be deterred. I'm not real big on musical adaptations and own very few, yet, I've grown to like this 'West Side Story' one a good bit. I rather enjoy Benjamen's bowed bass on "Lonely Town" as well as Flanagan's lovely spirited playing. That particular number has a lively bounce to it and is nice to listen to when you're out on your porch having an early evening glass of wine with your spouse. "Tonite" is another pleasant moderately swinging number with Elvin working the brushes and TF playing with some zip. Some excellent trio interplay imho. Side B is a good bit slower, and with the exception of the lightly swinging "Lucky to be Me" and "Glitter And Be Gay" it's definitely leaning more toward the laid-back late nite trio category --- but Flanagan consistently plays with a good deal of emotion on numbers like "It's Love" and "Make Our Garden Grow" (one track I actually don't much care for) and Jones brush work is excellent, as it is throughout the entire LP. Anyway, it was just a suggestion. I was just curious as to why it had been ping-ponging around in the Japanese jazz market for many years, but not available here. That's rather unusual for a BN TOCJ title. Here's what it looks like for those who might be curious (the LP cover is blue w/silhouette of the Manhattan skyline). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Well, I guess I would be one of the 700 to buy this if it came out, I happen to dig TF very much -- especially his work on the JJ Mosaic is very cool. Sorry, at this point, I've lost all interest in Hill. I'd buy it too, as I also dig TF's work around this time--but I'm also buying the Hill material as well. The new house is starting to fill up already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I'm a Tommy, Joe and Elvin fan. . . .But this one I find unexciting. It was not released until 20 years after recording. Who initially produced this session? Was it a Blue Note production. . . . I have a memory of this being a UA session, but I don't have it any longer and don't trust those memory cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 As I said earlier, it was a UA date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I thought so, missed that mention earlier. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Now....they could re-issue the UA album Going To The Movies by Jerome Richardson and I'd be ALL FOR THAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 It is a fairly boring date and wouldn't sell much over 700 copies in the US. Most fascinating aspect of the whole thread to me is the sales #'s. Had no idea stuff would sell so poorly. What are "normal" sales figures for like a Blue Note Jackie McLean reissue on the high end, a Blue Note Horace Parlan reissue, say, on the low end? What does an OJC reissue of a good but not immortalized Sonny Rollins set (say, 'Sonny Boy') sell? What will something like the Lou Blackburn sell? What does a new release by someone like Billy Harper sell? What does a given Delmark release sell? Thx for the education! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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