Michael Fitzgerald

Well, Emerson's compositions were far more sophisticated and his orchestral concept was vastly improved. So if those things matter, there are gems to be found. Unless you are only a fan of the so-called "psychedelic" aspect of The Nice (largely the first record). But if you appreciate Five Bridges, I would imagine you could get something out of Trilogy or Tarkus. And a great deal of Pictures is right in line with Karelia, Pathetique, America, etc. Mike

The 1968 Moanin' album is reportedly from Berlin (originally a radio broadcast) - Lord 5.0 gives date as November 6, but on that date Blakey was in Paris. According to Down Beat 10/31/68 p.10 the Berlin performance (at the Kongresshalle) was on November 8, 1968. Mike

That's a whole 'nother subject - how many have a Kenny Barron, how many have a Herb Pomeroy, how many have a David Baker, how many have a Bobby Bradford, etc. All those guys are one of a kind. In the end, there are things you can get on the road and things you can get on campus. But I don't know that there are any guarantees that you *will* get those things there. Mike

And he's another one who did the college thing too, at New England Conservatory. Mike

Don't see mention of the Arkestra yet - Craig Harris; Alex Blake; Stafford James; Vincent Chancey; Jaribu Shahid; Tani Tabbal come to mind. The Widespread Depression Orchestra had Randy & Jordan Sandke; Tad Shull; Michael Hashim; Mike LeDonne; Phil Flanigan. When Buck Clayton formed his Swing Band he borrowed several players from them. Scott Robinson was also in that band. -- Despite having two college degrees in music, Michael Philp Mossman touched just about all the bases - His earliest recordings are with big bands led by Braxton; Leo Smith; Roscoe Mitchell in 1978-79. Then big band work with Count Basie; Lionel Hampton; Machito; George Gruntz; Gil Evans; Toshiko Akiyoshi; Gene Harris & Philip Morris Superband; Bob Mintzer; Gerry Mulligan; Mario Bauza; Chico O'Farrill; Slide Hampton; Carnegie Hall Jazz Band; Mingus Big Band; etc. Not to mention all the small group gigs - Art Blakey; Horace Silver; Michel Camilo; and of course, OTB. I would say he's a prime example of someone who got all the experience he could get with the veterans, despite his starting only in the late 1970s. You can't get that now. Mike

There are plenty of "celebrity real names" sites that include some jazz people. I don't know of one that is for jazz exclusively. http://www.irregardless.net/realname/index.html Mike

Allen - Just a stab in the dark - I wonder if perhaps this was not Buddy's own band, but rather the 1950 Tommy Dorsey band. It's documented on records that Buddy was there the first two months of 1950 and Schildkraut was there in September 1950 - but maybe there were other periods when they overlapped? Mike

OK - which is the offensive part - White? Girls? (Blues?) Try - "Even females who are not of color sometimes find the need to express through song their feelings about the adversity that they encounter" Mike

True that the credits were added later. FWIW, despite (or perhaps because of) my love for The Nice, I am not a big fan of the first ELP album. Sounds thrown together - compositions aren't that great (3 Fates is a huge bore), production rather bland. That same material had more vitality in subsequent performances. Tarkus was at its peak on the triple LP. That 1973-74 period is where the band really hit their stride and technology had evolved enough to make things feasible. I give them high marks for trying things on the earlier records, but don't see unqualified successes on any of those. Of course by this time, so many other things had gone wrong - as can be seen in the film documentary of the European tour. Mike

http://www.brain-salad.com/Emerson/quote-list.txt There are more, too. The inability of Carl Palmer to play jazz is a major disapointment about ELP, particularly in the earliest period when they actually occasionally tried. Mike

I just followed the link to the SteepleChase site. Details of this album are now in my Bill Barron discography. When more details become available to me I will adjust it. Mike

Elegy has the shining example of Emerson as a jazz player in "Hang On To A Dream" - and the version of "My Back Pages" is a wonderful reinterpretation of the piece, inspired partly by the Keith Jarrett Trio version on Atlantic. Mike

Many thanks for the info. The Barron blurb is incorrect - only 3 Bill Barron originals. 2 are by Kenny Barron. Anyone know the city for Cobi's (as the SteepleChase page shows it on the CD cover). Mike

Title: New Sounds Artist: Art Blakey Format: CD Label: Blue Note Cat. Num.: CDP 7 84436 2 Rel. Year: 1991 02:54 10/19/1948 BN 340-0 The Fuller Bop Man 02:56 10/19/1948 BN 340-4 The Fuller Bop Man 03:15 10/19/1948 BN 341-0 Workshop [aka Blues For A Debutante] 02:30 10/19/1948 BN 342-2 Oh Henry 03:00 10/19/1948 BN 343-2 Moodamorphosis 02:32 10/25/1948 BN 346-0 Moody's All Frantic 03:00 10/25/1948 BN 344-0 Tropicana 02:34 10/25/1948 BN 345-1 Cu-Ba 02:44 10/25/1948 BN 347-0 Tin Tin Deo 02:58 12/22/1947 BN 322-3 The Thin Man 03:08 12/22/1947 BN 323-1 Bop Alley 03:06 12/22/1947 BN 323-2 Bop Alley 02:53 12/22/1947 BN 324-2 Groove Street 03:05 12/22/1947 BN 325-1 Musa's Vision Art Blakey, James Moody (ldr), Ernie Henry, Sahib Shihab (as), Musa Kaleem [Orlando Wright], James Moody (ts), Cecil Payne, Ernest Thompson (bar), Dave Burns, Kenny Dorham, Elmon Wright (t), Howard Bowe (tb), Walter Bishop, Jr., James 'Hen Gates' Forman (p), Laverne Barker, Nelson Boyd (b), Art Blakey, Teddy Stewart (d), Francisco 'Chano' Pozo (cga, v), Gil Fuller (arr) (Above is collective personnel) CD gives wrong recording date for Blakey material. Mike

Thanks - updated now. Mike

Yes, Koopman on Erato CDs - now OOP, I believe. I love these versions. Note that these use the Werckmeister III temperament, which is gorgeous and filled with color. Crispian Steele Perkins is trumpet soloist. Mike

Latest and greatest - nearly all issues done. Still have a few CDs to check and would love to get details on the unissued sessions as well as info from the session logs to detail takes, sequence, etc. http://www.JazzDiscography.com/Temp/uptown.htm Mike

No - as the two duplicate LPs from my last shopping trip sitting here next to me prove. The system works better for online shopping. Mike

Read on: http://www.billholland.net/words/vault.html Mike

I wouldn't say so - my Art Davis caveat was referring to comments in this thread. Mike

"With minor exceptions, every unissued pre-1969 Atlantic tape was destroyed." - Joel Dorn (from Coltrane Atlantic boxed set). Copies of some stuff have been found elsewhere. Mike

Thin orange stripes? I thought it was more thin white lines........

Dominant color of the spine or the front cover? (I assume you have spines facing out.) Or do you mean color of the actual media (Fantasy red vinyl)? In which case, do you eventually refile those defective CDs which are becoming brown? Or is it the dominant color of what you see with closed eyes when you listen........... Mike

I guess the main problem is, as bassist Art Davis (or rather, Dr. Art Davis, clinical psychologist) warned me - it is not appropriate to diagnose people from afar. Mike

Allen - Are you going by actual SAT score received, or have you adjusted earlier scores to align with the recent recalibration that they did on the test? Do you take highest score for multiple attempts or do you average them? Mike