AllenLowe

Michigan-

well, Jim got it right - I think we discussed this in relation to downloading in another thread some time ago - everything is disposable, a CD project is now just another dissectable commodity - kinda like medical students taking apart a body post-autopsy, to paraphrase Mingus, I think -

hi Bruce - long time - (sorry, couldn't come up with any names)

my parents took me to see Cage, I think at Carnegie Hall, mid 1960s -all I remember were two large speakers (one at each side of the stage) and in the middle of the performance, a guy came riding through on a bicycle - I fell asleep, but than, I was only about 11 years old -

of course, I also liked Weekend at Bernie's -

that's the one - not the Ellis -

I thought he was talking about Henry Cow -

bright guy - I met his ex-wife in Seattle last April -

just found this: (apologies to 7/4): (from the NY Times): Gene Cherico; Jazz Bassist,62 Published: August 17, 1994 Gene Cherico, a jazz bassist who played with Benny Goodman, George Shearing and Stan Getz and accompanied singers like Peggy Lee and Frank Sinatra, died on Friday at a Santa Monica convalescent home. He was 62. The cause was non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, his former wife, Mary Lusk, told The Los Angeles Times. Mr. Cherico began as a drummer and took up bass as therapy after an injury while he was in the Army in the early 1950's. He then studied at Berklee College of Music in Boston. His first band was a trio that included Toshiko Akiyoshi on piano and Jake Hanna on drums. He retired 10 years ago after lymphoma was diagnosed, Ms. Lusk said. He is survived by a daughter, Amy; a stepdaughter, Ann, and two brothers, Anthony and Gerald.

Gene Cherico - whatever happened to him? I think he was on the Jaki Byard/Don Ellis Candid album; also may have worked for Tony Bennett for a while -

well, Bozo may have died, but the real clown is reviewing music for the New York Times -

Mike - wasn't meaning to imply that you had done anything wrong - though I might make the argument that even the consent of the dying does not necessarily make this a good thing - but I do realize that this is an entirely personal thing -

I want to have her children -

never heard of water on the knee?

somehow this all reminds me of when a friend of mine, about 30 years ago, was working for a friend of his who ran a skin mag - lots of naked pictures, women doing odd things, the usual Hustler-type stuff - it was my friend's job to write the captions, and he had the women each talking about her favorite music - like Lennie Tristano and Charlie Parker, also had them spouting theories on improvisation and Tristano's rhythmic quirks, talking about their preferences for later vs earlier Lester Young - it was a scream, and each of the women sounded like an ethno-musicology major - hilarious stuff that I wish I'd saved - and the point is that they correctly assumed nobody would notice or give a crap, and nobody did - not sure how it relates to all this, but it does say something about not only indifference to jazz but about how the discussion of the music is so foreign to most people that they don't even notice that it's happening -

"try looking down my dress NOW, motherfucker"

"play something, dammit - enough of that 'plink plink plink.' "

actually, many people wondered what happened to Eva Braun after the war...

GRANDMA!

I had nothing to do with his untimely death....

by the way, none of this would have happened if Jim had agreed to my idea of a few years ago to put an editing function on here that allows us to edit each other's posts

"The ironic thing about this thread is that it was originally done by a member who was apologizing for his bad behaviour." well, as the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished -

agreed - this one is my battle, sorry - Dan, please continue your brilliantly argued posts, as they help to make my point - ' and please, spare us the irrelevant arguments - I am entitled to respond to the nasty stuff you say to OTHER members of this board, it does not have to be in response simply to something directed at me - just as I would respond to any bully anywhere who is bullying someone else - these are my people here; they need protection from the big bad world - but I'm with Jim A. on this one - will try to let this whole argument disappear -

anybody remember the "cram it clown" story? don't know if it's true, but Bozo is supposed to have told a little kid, who cursed, that "that's a Bozo no-no." the kid replied: "Cram it, clown."

and how many massages can one guy order? and how many girls can there be named Candy? Does this guy have back problems, or what?