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Same here David. I just can't imagine how Wes Montgomery would have gotten the invite to sit in if there wasn't something there.

Up. Is anyone familiar with this incarnation of the Coltrane Quartet plus? I often wonder what made Wes' sound a likely candidate. If anyone has heard this group, or has an online source describing the music, I'd be very appreciative if they'd post here.

Good points. I hope Jason Moran is as upset about this as some of us are.

I haven't seen Photoshop 7 yet. I'm still working with 6. I'm still far from mastering it. Not using it on a daily basis, I only discover certain utilitities or posibilities when the need arises... The healing tool sounds incredible! I may have to look into the upgrade. You guys have done some great stuff with the BN covers.

That avatar is perfect Dave!

Apparently, I’m full of links asscciated with this album. I knew we had discussed this disc here once before. Click here.

How do I "pin" a topic?

I have to admit, it is surprising at first listen. A live Vanguard recording should sound more "live," no? The other element that took some getting used to was the acoustic bass guitar. I have come to the conclusion that I would much rather hear Mateen playing an upright. The upper registers on the guitar instrument have much less presence than the lower octaves, which is a shame considering the amount of time he spends in the upper octaves. I am personally amazed by this trio. I have yet to see them live, and look forward to doing so. Although I do not own Modernistic, I am a fan based on the high standard that Moran has set, releasing consecutive high quality albums that chart a growth and a cooperative progress. For more insight on his compositional methods, click here. To listen to Jason Moran in an interview, explaining the linguistic pieces, click here. To answer Joe's question, these are not overdubs. The vocal parts are pre-recorded however. As I understand it, these are commissioned pieces. I forget where I read this. The guy is definitely not your run of the mill pianist. I think Joe does a great job of describing what makes Jason Moran, and I infer this, potentially great. I also sense a certain lack of excitement from his write-up on Bagatellen. I could be wrong Evan, but I think you may change your mind on this recording. You'll just have to adjust the volume!

I think you are exactly right Alexander. Unfortunately, the third installment does not take place very much inside the Matrix. The Matrix was my favorite part of the story. The outside isn't quite so spectacular.

That Andrew Hill sideman thread got me on a Jackie Mclean/Grachan Moncur III kick. Jackie Mclean .:. Destination Out! Jackie Mclean .:. One Step Beyond Grachan Moncur III .:. Evolution Walt Dickerson .:. Peace Walt Dickerson .:. Divine Gemini Lee Morgan .:. The Procrastinator Lee Morgan .:. Live at the Lighthouse 3CD Jeremy Pelt .:. Select MP3s Air .:. Air Time Frank Black and the Catholics .:. Show Me Your Tears Dead Meadow .:. Shivering King and Others Outkast .:. The Love Below/Speakerboxx

Nice Jim! I'll be at Tonic tomorrow night to hear Susie Ibarra if anyone wants to meet up. Get a good look at this face and call ###.###.#### if you're in the neighborhood. My name is Mr. X by the way. edit: didn't want to leave my cell number up on the internet for too long... hey conn, you think they'll recognize me now? the show was interesting. all electro-acoustic improv. it was difficult to tell what was composed and what was not, and the performance was very short. susie was great though. oh well... nobody met us out there. was anyone at birdland on friday? dewey redman group + joe lovano.

David, re: Kill Bill I heard Quentin say February if all goes as planned (on Conan the other night). re: Matrix Revolutions Saw it today. Weak. I like the second one best. I understand that it is a trilogy and should be viewed as one piece, but... re: Back To the Future ??? What is up with you people???

When did BACK TO THE FUTURE become a cult film?

As would Walt Dickerson, I'm sure! He's been practicing in solitude for the past twenty years...

I'll give two line-ups that I wish would have happened. I'm with Joe on the first one: Mclean/Moncur. Jackie Mclean (as) Grachan Moncur III (tb) Andrew Hill (p) Bobby Hutcherson (vb) Richard Davis ( B )* Anthony Williams (d) or Roy Haynes (d) Recorded sometime during the second half of 1963 by Rudy Van Gelder on Blue Note, somewhere in the ONE STEP BEYOND, DESTINATION OUT!, EVOLUTION, SMOKESTACK, BLACK FIRE period. This line-up has Blue Note Classic written all over it. ||||||||||| |||||||||||| |||| | ||| |||||||| ||||| |||| The second line-up would involve a rotation of mucisians reflecting compositional instrumentation. Andrew Hill (p) Walt Dickerson (vb) Richard Davis ( B )* Andrew Cyrille (d, perc) A series of duet and trio passages, along with the full quartet. Of course, this would have to be a Walt Dickerson album recorded sometime in the late 1970s by Elvin Campbell on SteepleChase. Can you imagine? Neither of these are too far fetched, considering all of these musicians were playing very well with each other at these times, or had played well with each other at earlier stages in their careers, just not in these exact combinations. *edit

Very cool covers! Seems like there were an awful lot of jazz publications back in the day. For those who were cognisant of the jazz world back then, were most of these of a quality standard? How did they differentiate themselves from the others?

Those are killer! Great job!

Good deal! I actually picked up a TOCJ of your namesake (INDESTRUCTIBLE!) in a used bin in Brookline, MA for $7.99! I needed a heavy dose. Man, "Calling Miss Khadija" is a great hard bop tune! I also picked up a new copy of the complete Lee Morgan Live at the Lighthouse for $30. Good day for Lee Morgan!

Hell yeah I'll buy it!

I wanted to choose something that would provoke dissenting opinion. I think this trio, like many other groups have, asks that you think about "music" differently. Give it some real listening time Steve. Maybe even headphones if you have a pair. I'm really glad you went out of your way to hear this music.

I grew up around good music. My grandfather, "Sugar" Ralston, has closets lined with shelves of lps. As a kid, I heard the big band stuff he played, but it never really caught my ear. In middle school, I played 1st and 2nd trumpet in the band. Our teacher, Bernadette Spencer, was a lively lady who would always yell from the front of the band "COLTRANE!" or "come on Miles!" Every arrangement we played ended up with her touch of swing and fire. Keep in mind, this is a middle school band It wasn't until after high school that I decided I was ready to find out what she was yelling about. Around the same time, my grandfather lent me a Sonny Stitt record along with a Johnny Hodges and an Ellington record. Shortly thereafter, I had accumulated a few things. My junior year in college, I took a jazz appreciation course. Although we didn't really cover a lot of the music that I thought was essential, I thought it was a decent overview and a nice approach to critical listening. Most of the students hadn't ever listened to jazz. The professor did a nice job of exploding the jazz diagram I think. Lots of votes at the younger end of the spectrum. Interesting I think. Maybe the jazz industry has its demographic all wrong!

I own BODY META. I can definitely understand your reaction. The sound of this album is exhausting, but your interest is piqued. This concept, I think this is the first prime time recording, is brand new and shows promise. You wonder where they take it. Listen again to Body Meta. I'm going to do the same, now that you've brought it up. Its been at least a year. There are some very interesting guitar/electric bass/drums textures if I remember, and a very long winded Ornette! dave9199, where are you on this one?

What? No Pam Anderson pics?!

Welcome "aboard" Aftab. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. "Aboard..." that's a good one.