JETman

For some reason, Artist Share finds it necessary to sell the unreleased material at a clip of $25/cd, though.

You don't think the recordings would be more pleasant without the tortured animal sounds? You're a musician criticizing another musician??? What ever happened to the 'good old boys' network?

Let me get this right - you don't care, so no one else should? You determine what is important and what isn't? I thought it was egotistical when you posted in the Sandusky thread "is this all you have to say about my points?" but this just proves it. You've got a Grade-A ego, pal and need to give it a rest. Really? Intuitive much?

Alas, Paterno's crimes extend FAR beyond what happened in this particular scandal.

The thread was in relation to an interview he gave. I believe a musician might have something to say to us via channels aside from his music, and we might have a response to it. That's fine, but 2 pages of mindless nonsense is not. Don't settle, as they say.

My point is (and knowing you like I do, I think you get it) is enough with the negative commentary about what he said and about his belief system. How 'bout a healthy discourse on the merits (or lack thereof) of his music? It's the same as discussions about Jarrett always turning to how much he moans and groans, or about how egotistical he is. I don't really care, and why should anyone else?

Is this really all you have to say on the points I've raised?

The almighty buck takes a front seat again I see. If you're gonna take a stand on something that's as good as anything else, I suppose. WTF? Really? Are you trying to start trouble?

The almighty buck takes a front seat again I see. If you're gonna take a stand on something that's as good as anything else, I suppose.

This may classify as some more internet forum gobbledygook, but where's your THIRD 'quick and unnecessary' point?

Still not seeing the bigger picture. The minute details of this scandal are insignificant compared to the pain and suffering endured by the victims. All who deserve to get theirs WILL get theirs. Maybe now, we can get back to colleges being real colleges, instead of (insert your favorite sport here) factories. Maybe now, these real colleges can concentrate on culturing young minds of conscience which place real value on CORRECT behavior in ALL walks of life. For now, the NCAA is keeping a low profile in all of this. Once the dust clears, things will really start to blow up. Let's hope they can get their shit together, put things in a proper perspective and finally minimize the negative impact that these sports programs can have on kids going forward.

Do these postures translate to his fingers? If you still think so, I suggest you check this out -- recorded live at the Blue Note, NYC in May 2010: http://www.amazon.com/Further-Explorations-Chick-Corea/dp/B004VN7V18/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1321019341&sr=1-1 Again, the music is what matters. Discussion of all else is a waste of bandwidth in cyberspace. Chick is a great musician, check my posts, but and he does have freedom to believe anything he wants. But is scientology a religion? More of a cult, according to what I read. You seem to be missing the point of my post. Are you saying that if it's a cult, and not a religion, that he doesn't have the freedom to follow it as he wishes? Does he seem the worse for wear? Does he need saving from the cult, as an impressionable child might? Is this really so different than any other of your jazz heroes deciding mid-life to become muslim? And even if it is, who really cares? Anyone here is free to NOT buy his new music. To just drone on and on about some insignificant facet of his life is just plain ignorant and WRONG! ATR was hardly droning on about it and merely posited that Scientology may not be a religion. In fact, several nations still don't recognize that Scientology is a religion and the US government is forever trying to define it as a methodology, not a religion, and get some tax monies. I spent several years living in a rented house with Scientologists, and several additional years involved musically with a guitarist and song-writer who was a Scientologist, and from that viewpoint I don't really see Dianetics and Scientology as a religion but at its best as an alternative to psychiatry. For many of its adherents it starts out as a sort of self-improvement therapy series and then can become something else with further involvement. Its biggest enemy (in its own estimation) is the psychiatric community and accepted psychology; Scientologists believe they have the new/old truth in this field and should have the place of privilege and rank. They've gone another route instead. I DO think that Scientology informs Corea's work, but agree with John that it's hardly different than the way that other belief systems or methodologies (or lack of same) have influenced the work of other jazz artists. The fact that I called it a religion was NOT the point of my post. I could have just as easily called it 'shit', and it still would not matter. I know that ATR produces jazz records. That does NOT make him more informed about anything other than producing jazz records than you or I.

Chick is a great musician, check my posts, but and he does have freedom to believe anything he wants. But is scientology a religion? More of a cult, according to what I read. You seem to be missing the point of my post. Are you saying that if it's a cult, and not a religion, that he doesn't have the freedom to follow it as he wishes? Does he seem the worse for wear? Does he need saving from the cult, as an impressionable child might? Is this really so different than any other of your jazz heroes deciding mid-life to become muslim? And even if it is, who really cares? Anyone here is free to NOT buy his new music. To just drone on and on about some insignificant facet of his life is just plain ignorant and WRONG!

I'm not fully versed on the ins and outs of music distribution, so please forgive my ignorance: don't you have any pull with your distributor?

Yes, from all I've heard, he's a good kid. a good kid??? He was 28 at the time...Even if you suffered Rick Perry level brain freeze at that moment, You'd be sick to your stomach. You would at some point put yourself or a sibling in the place of the raped child. Even then if you did nothing at the time, you shouldn't, you wouldn't be able to sleep it would seem to me. You would keep replaying it in your brain...was he so afraid of Paterno, or of losing his job, he did the very least he could do, and passed the buck??? Like Dan said, if he had just done something...perhaps gotten someone else to see it, call security to stop it, he'd have saved untold children from being raped... Since you're aligning yourself with Mr. Gold, I am now convinced that you're insane. What he did does not make him a bad kid (used relative to MY age) as Big Wheel pointed out (very logically, fwiw). Let's hope that you never find yourself in a similar situation, because the fact is that you'll never know what you'd do until you are. And btw, my former in-laws knew Mike McQueary very well. So in case you're wondering, THAT'S how I know.

Yes, from all I've heard, he's a good kid.

Why do you choose to spell McQueary's name differently in every post? Are ya even paying attention?

If so, why can one still purchase your product there?

When you attend Penn State, you are taught to revere the almighty Paterno. So yes, the rioters DO represent the majority of the students there, if not the totality! Get it?

A conscience can only be clear if it exists. On another note, if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?

So you're still laboring under the delusion this is about PSU Football? Really? This is about a man who is being scapegoated for a crime he did not commit and because his name is bigger than all the rest of the jackasses involved...including the molester himself. Trust me, he had much more power than the President of the University. Real power. He was not a figurehead. He has implanted a sick, macho mentality into the heads of many a Pennsylvania farm boy. Sandusky was an extension of Paterno. However, Paterno is guilty of a much more overriding and long lasting crime --- that of making sports more important than life. I have seen this up close and personal, as I've been hinting at all along. Keep up, man. You're like 4 or 5 thought processes behind me!

Proof? Once again, we see that assumption rules the day. As do all of us who report on child abuse. Or you could all read the actual statute. Legal counsel for Curley, Schultz and Paterno are using a loophole to get by. Just. not. acceptable. Oh? And how is it "acceptable" for that grad assistant who didn't use that 24-hour hotline, eh? Where is the public outcry over that? You guys have shown me that a lynch mob mentality is alive and well in this country. Shame. You are still focusing only on a tragic result of a BIGGER problem, dude. My best guess is that McQueary has avoided scrutiny so far because he is unfortunate proof of the product PSU has been pedaling for decades -- production of BAD human beings exhibiting BAD behavior. Bullshit. He's escaped scrutiny because his name isn't Joe Paterno. They ought to fry his ass. And you can take that to the bank. You have a responsible position, right? Responsible people do not have attitudes like yours.

I can't get it to work. Could you provide another one? Otherwise I'll have to use Grooveshark.

As do all of us who report on child abuse. Or you could all read the actual statute. Legal counsel for Curley, Schultz and Paterno are using a loophole to get by. Just. not. acceptable. Oh? And how is it "acceptable" for that grad assistant who didn't use that 24-hour hotline, eh? Where is the public outcry over that? You guys have shown me that a lynch mob mentality is alive and well in this country. Shame. You are still focusing only on a tragic result of a BIGGER problem, dude. My best guess is that McQueary has avoided scrutiny so far because he is unfortunate proof of the product PSU has been pedaling for decades -- production of BAD human beings exhibiting BAD behavior.

Of course you are right. But the "phonies" in this system, such as the Lavins, the Boeheims, the Calhouns, the Krzyzewskis, et. al. need to have their power to help shape young minds stripped away. These ARE educational institutions, after all.