David Ayers

Oh come ON! That was too easy. Now ask me a hard one!

My feeling is that it was right to follow the migration of musical elements with the result that European harmonic/melodic elements were given a viable looking genealogy, their convergence with West African and Arab melodic and rhythmic elements was mapped, and features some detialed investigation of the emergence of the 12 bar form in the late 19thC. I felt the account added some complexity to the easily overstated formulation that Blues=Black and African. It also gives increased material to your question about what is 'folk' in the context of commercial publishing and urbanisation.

A useful source on this issue is Peter van der Merwe, Origins of the Popular Style: The Antecedents of Twentieth Century Popular Music. It is a well thought-out argument which proceeds from musicological rather than sociological grounds, and makes important suggestions about the route by which European and specifically Scots/Irish folk music (in turn influenced by Arab music) had a formative influence on the Blues. I can't summarize the argument from memory but anyone with a scholarly interest is recommended to pursue it. (I reviewed it in the Journal of American Studies, some years back, if you have access to that journal).

...and now they're all back how weird

I just accessed the Mosaic site and got about a quarter of the existing Mosaic sets displayed. After a couple of refreshes a few minutes later it seemed to go back to normal... but then I noticed that some sets were still missing... hmmm

I've also discovered that spittle rarely works well. Especially if you happen to be chewing gum when you apply it.

In case anyone on the board hasn't picked this up (I know that Michael F. has, obviously), the Live Trane controversy is also documented on David Wild's site, here.

Same here - and I'd never ever let down Wes or John...

Leaving on shrinkwrap can also cause split seams, usually at the top in the middle. I think this is because the card expands due to slow absorption of moisture through the shrinkwrap. Not the same issue as warping the record, which I have also seen, usually in cheaper vinyl which maybe hasn't been stored properly.

I've heard this before... but I've never dared to try it!

I've still got a soft spot for Frames by Tippett's Ark. I bought the LP when it first came out, after I heard it on the radio. It sounded like King Crimson who I was well into (KC used some of the same musicians) so when I turned on the radio and just cut into the middle of this stuff I was knocked out. It may well have been my first 'jazz' LP and was certainly my first 'free' LP - though not quite free as the liner notes explain. In fact, while most liner notes try to sell you something as accessible, the notes in this LP are an apology to hard core free practitioners that there are in fact some composed elements on this LP. Poor Keith Tippett! After the very brief fling with KC he was afraid of being called a sellout. Talk about a man of principle. Different times. I'm surprised The Longest Night hasn't had a CD retread. Maybe one day?

I think you're probably right.

Are you sure about that? Check here. (The Amazon/Caiman link I posted previously is for their U.S. Amazon page. The above link is for their U.K. Amazon page. ) the amazon US price is much better, 50 dollars vs. 50 pounds! Check the other private sellers on amazon.com, for a few dollars more, they may be shipping overseas. The 60 dollar price of amazon.com itself isn't bad either. Thanks guys - yes I noticed you can link to caiman on amazon.co.uk but as couw says the price is not right! I may go the other route... I'm waiting for the Jazztet to leak out this way (damn I'm tight fisted...). David, I'm tight fisted too - let me know where you go for these. John willco Knowing me I'll get nowhere fast!

Are you sure about that? Check here. (The Amazon/Caiman link I posted previously is for their U.S. Amazon page. The above link is for their U.K. Amazon page. ) the amazon US price is much better, 50 dollars vs. 50 pounds! Check the other private sellers on amazon.com, for a few dollars more, they may be shipping overseas. The 60 dollar price of amazon.com itself isn't bad either. Thanks guys - yes I noticed you can link to caiman on amazon.co.uk but as couw says the price is not right! I may go the other route... I'm waiting for the Jazztet to leak out this way (damn I'm tight fisted...).

That cycling thing works both ways. I'm overweight, but no amount of biking takes it down. End of season I'm about 3 kilos less than at start, and it all goes back on by end of November. Still at least I can rack up a few k in these snowy times without shivering like a whippet. When I saw her time of 2:54 I thought minutes and seconds...

The Woods offers these prices, post included. I don't know if they are best you can get in UK but Woods are usually good. COLTRANE, JOHN Cpte 1961 Village Vanguard Offer 39.99 IMPD 4232 COLTRANE, JOHN Complete Impulse Studio Offer 49.99 IMPD 8280 I see that Caiman have a very good price if ordered via amazon.co.uk, esp. on VV set, though with usual caveats as to possible duty payable.

Well, I'd say you have the essence of the VV set in the master takes disc, and to my mind, if it was one or the other (and regardless of price...) I would go for the (In)Complete Quartet box. More music, more music new to you, and more bang for your buck. You can always add the Deluxe editions as and when if you find all the bonuses and the edge in mastering desirable. (If you are that much of a completist I think you'd theroetically have to have this box anyway). Good as VV is, some of the tracks are of interest rather than essential. Yes, I'm a subversive, I know...

I see that Caiman have changed their policy since some people here ordered and will now no longer ship this set abroad - at least, not if you order via amazon.com, and half.com only operates in US (and Canada?). Is there another route?

I also get these pretending to be from every bank in the UK (as well as the ebay and Paypal ones). This has become one of the major scams of our time. It's called 'phishing'. Also important not to give out any bank details when someone has phoned you to 'verify your account'.

Yeah - but if you hadn't listened to side one first you wouldn't have needed healing... Edit: seriously, it is one side or other of the LP he counts out one ****ed up time signature - I can't remember which side or what time...

John Cage's 4' 33" in Fallujah has been pulled for similar reasons, I believe.

Monster monster monster!

Oblique! That list isn't fair!

So who got this set???? The suspense is killing me.