David Ayers

Well I agree with that. And I sure as hell don't get any fun or pleasure out of buying product with a STOP THIEF label on it.

You are right Stephan, so it is worth correcting me! However it also sort of bears out my point, that the marketing on some of these sets is as much about getting people to rebuy things they already have and to lure them with an album or two they don't. Also lets be aware that single disc releases of the previously unreleased titles may follow. This Patton set is aimed directly at people who already have some of the material. Those people don't get very much extra because the set is not in any way 'complete'. Anyway, its down to preference. Personally I wouldn't (usually...) buy a set just to get one LPs worth. In any case when such sets are released it often releases vinyl copies on to the market!

Thank you all very much! Some very good advice in there as well... When I get back maybe I will post some of the wedding photos... if you're lucky!

Actually there may be a slght problem with the music, in that the rest in the music seems to be a shade longer due to the inclusion of the cue point. That may be a false impression however.

And I'm too lazy to read this thread. Will somebody tell me what it says?

The TOCJ of Sonic Boom contains only Sonic Boom. The second session of the is on the TOCJ of Procrastinator but NOT on the Conn. That second session is added to Sonic Boom. Perhaps that is why they are changing the cover but I think they should have stuck with the original.

Well we have been together a while and it is time to do the decent thing. Hurrah!

Thanks for posting this. But I am too lazy to look at it. Can anybody tell me what it looks like?

I wish the Patton and Chambers sets had something to add. I prefer the archival spirit of Mosaic to the convenient re-reissue 3-pack. The Carmell Jones was very welcome - there should be more like that. The Grachan Moncur was the least creditable since it offered one album new-to-CD as a draw to those who had the other titles. At least the Patton and Chambers, by offering nothing new, aren't as cynical as the Moncur. Still, the CJB is a good and welcome release so perhaps I shouldn't moan!

I'm too lazy to post it.

How much of the Chambers is new to CD? I think I have it all already. As with the Patton I am just a bit bored by this return to recently released material.

I also like that DG are hip to Brit jazz - touting releases from the likes of Ian Carr, Don Rendell, Tubby Hayes and so on. Obviously I can get mine here in England - but YOU lot should be getting them from DG!

The US McMaster issue has the wrong cue points, as you described. They are all like that, AFAIK.

Shrdlu I think early records has lower prices and charges less shipping - am I worng? Soul Stream The BN titles listed at DG as in paper sleeve are the JRVGs.

I had an email from John Taylor today. I had written to him asking to be reminded who had been on the bill at a gig I heard him at in my early years of jazzthusiasm. Back in 1981 or 82 the line up had been Wheeler, Parker, Taylor, Jenny-Clarke, Motian. The date was at Leeds University and was a major eye-opener for me. Taylor has been taking care of business and spreading the word for a long time over here and it is good to know he is still going strong.

Well for sure http://www.earlyrecords.com is your best bet. You can communicate with Hiroshi Tanno by email and pay by paypal. He can order in any in print item, but remember that titles go OP fast in Japan. His shipping charges are certainly the lowest.

Looks like most of these are in jewel cases. An added novelty.

These have been coming out since June. Some are slated for future US release, others not. So far I have not heard any, and have one on the way from the H-man. Has anyone heard these and is there anything to report? I have posted the list below for those who may not have seen it. PS This list uses the original release number, not the TOCJ number. June 25, 2003 4001 Newk's Time / Sonny Rollins 4183 Talkin' About / Grant Green 4252 Sweet Honey Bee / Duke Pearson 4229 Got A Good Thing Goin' / John Patton 4060 At The Half Note Café Vol.1 / Donald Byrd 4061 At The Half Note Café Vol.2 / Donald Byrd 4227 Mode For Joe / Joe Henderson 4159 Judgement! / Andrew Hill 4085 Ready For Freddie / Freddie Hubbard 4129 Never Let Me Go / Stanley Turrentine July 23, 2003 1575 City Lights / Lee Morgan 1547 A Date With Jimmy Smith Vol.1 1548 A Date With Jimmy Smith Vol.2 4033 Soundin' Off / Dizzy Reece 4220 The Cape Verdean Blues / Horace Silver 4145 Shoutin' / Don Wilkerson 4174 The Way I Feel / Big John Patton 4277 Serenade To A Soul Sister / Horace Silver 4280 Midnight Creeper / Lou Donaldson 4260 Conquistador / Cecil Taylor Aug. 27, 2003 1561 Palo Congo / Sabu 4415 The Final Come Down / Grant Green 4141 Rockin' The Boat / Jimmy Smith 4200 Softly As A Summer Breeze / Jimmy Smith 4121 Elder Don / Don Wilkerson 4158 Good Move / Freddie Roach 4120 It Just Got To Be / The Three Sounds 4197 Out Of This World / The Three Sounds 4188 I'm Tryin' To Get Home / Donald Byrd 4118 Free Form / Donald Byrd Sept. 2003 4230 A Caddy For Daddy / Hank Mobley 4310 Goin' West / Grant Green 4106 Let Freedom Ring / Jackie McLean 4131 Silver's Serenade / Horace Silver 4238 Mustang / Donald Byrd 4172 Breaking Point / Freddie Hubbard 4326 Move Your Hand / Lonnie Smith 4136 African High Life / Solomon Ilori 1525 The Incredible Jimmy Smith At The Organ Vol.3 4164 Prayer Meetin' / Jimmy Smith Oct. 2003 4083 Dexter Calling / Dexter Gordon 4050 Home Cookin' / Jimmy Smith 4100 Jimmy Smith Plays Fats Waller 4092 The Golden Eight / Kenny Clarke 4342 Green Is Beautiful / Grant Green 4087 Let Me Tell You 'Bout It / Leo Parker 4189 Inner Urge / Joe Henderson 4177 Some Other Stuff / Grachan Moncur III 4214 Down With It / Blue Mitchell 4273 Hi Voltage / Hank Mobley Nov. 2003 4335 The Sixth Sense / Lee Morgan 4079 Gravy Train / Lou Donaldson 4144 Little Johnny C / Johnny Coles 4096 That's Where It's At / Stanley Turrentine 4165 Destination Out / Jackie McLean 1587 Back On The Scene / Bennie Green 4104 Buhaina's Delight / Art Blakey & The Jazz Mssengers 4170 Free For All / Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers 4323 Merry Ole Soul / Duke Pearson 1556 The Sounds Of Jimmy Smith Dec. 2003 1572 Bone & Bari / Curtis Fuller Vol.2 4257 Boss Horn / Blue Mitchell 4297 Schizophrenia / Wayne Shorter 4153 Evolution / Grachan Moncur III 4307 Time For Tyner / McCoy Tyner 4196 Blue Spirits / Freddie Hubbard 4239 Let 'Em Roll / "Big" John Patton 4334 Moon Rappin' / Brother Jack McDuff 1599 Soul Stirrin' / Bennie Green 4191 Wahoo / Duke Pearson Jan. 2004 4010 Walkin' & Talkin' / Bennie Green 4353 The Song Of Singing / Chick Corea 4178 The Thing To Do / Blue Mitchell 4128 Mo' Greens Please / Freddie Roach 4207 The Night Of The Cookers Vol.1 / Freddie Hubbard 4208 The Night Of The Cookers Vol.2 / Freddie Hubbard 4322 Down Home Style / Brother Jack McDuff 4259 Blackjack / Donald Byrd 4253 Street Of Dreams / Grant Green 4193 Indestructible / Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers Feb. 2004 1517 Patterns In Jazz / Gil Melle 4125 Good Gracious / Lou Donaldson 4218 Action / Jackie McLean 4290 Think / Ronnie Smith 4151 Black Fire / Andrew Hill 4160 Smoke Stack / Andrew Hill 4077 Doin' Allright / Dexter Gordon 4148 Two Souls In One / George Braith 4171 Extention / George Braith 4344 How Insensitive / Duke Pearson Mar. 2004 4176 One Flight Up / Dexter Gordon 4288 Reach Out! / Hank Mobley 4072 Feelin' Good / The Three Sounds 4313 Turning Point / Ronnie Smith 4113 Down To Earth / Freddie Roach 4245 Like Someone In Love / Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers 4161 Soul Stream / George Braith 4166 In 'N Out / Joe Henderson 1563 Jimmy Smith Plays Pretty Just For You 4275 Tender Moments / McCoy Tyner

Of course if we start hitting it they might pick up the traffic and then its curtains...

... inexplicably, this fragment Nas ne dogonyat! Nas ne dogonyat! With love's light wings did I o'erperch these walls. Feel the force! Feel the force! Feel the force! FWIW you can examine other pages by altering the final digits (but not by following links). Am I the last to figure this out?

Maybe no more VMEs at all?

I thought so. It sounds pretty authentic.

Returns policy is a major issue, and we would all do well to ask retailers about returns policy before purchasing any disk. The simple answer is not to buy and to write to EMI. A decisive boycott at this stage could prove more effective than the courts. Even if a copy controlled disk you have bought works on the machine you try it on it may well not work on the next machine you use - and you can't take it back when it fails to work five years from now. After all, they warned you - it might not work.

I hope this comes to Europe. In the UK a full price CD costs £16+ i.e. $24. Even if you can afford it, it still feels like too much, and as a psychological threshold it is set very high. On the other hand a mid price sells for £10+ ($15) and they shift like Prince Charles rubber masks on Bonfire Night. It will be interesting to see if this works - I hope it does, though lower price points may not help independents.

The cassette I made from someone else's LP is in pretty good sound too - do I need to replace it?