bertrand

In addition to playing music from 2 records that hadn't been released yet, in July 1969 at Juan-Les-Pins, Wayne Shorter is quoting his composition 'Super Nova', which has not yet been recorded. Bertrand.

THE BASTARDS!!!

I've read elsewehere (an article I have lying around somewhere) that Wayne wrote 'Elegant People' when he was at NYU. Therefore, Acuna was probably NOT the inspiration. I have mixed feelings about this book in terms of the level of research, but it does read very well. Also some very interesting info - I had no idea that Wayne and Booker Little were friends. Imagine the possibilities... Bertrand.

If people call it the Agartha band, wouldn't it be Sonny Fortune on sax? As for your last statement, I assume you're being tongue-in-cheek. Bertrand.

It was on Prestige which was then owned by Fantasy which is now owned by Concord which will now be distributed by Verve. That's how it wound up Verve. Bertrand.

Neither Patton nor Young wrote any compositions on this record, so neither is being paid for the reissue. Assuming, of course, that neither wrote the uncredited title track Bertrand.

The story I heard was that they intended to use some Miles (don't know what session) for the sex scene, but that the Miles estate nixed it. Rather than re-shoot the whole scene, they squeezed in a line about 'adding some Mingus on the other side' to explain why we were hearing 'Haitian Fight Song'. Because, of course, Sue Mingus was ready to let them use some of Mingus' music, no doubt for a steep fee. I agree - Cameron Crowe sucks. Almost Famous was truly awful. Bertrand.

Couw, Thanks a bunch! That was fast. My discography has the Walton and Shorter tracks swapped. I knew something was afoot - the arrangement on 'There's A Party' sounds like the kind of stuff Wayne is up to now. The mystery of the recording data for Golden Boy is still out there. Mike Fitzgerald has the details in his Blakey chronology. Curiously, I found an interview with Wayne in Jazzman from 2002 where Wayne is asked about his first experience writing arrangements for large ensemble. The interviewer suggest Freddie Hubbard's The Body and The Soul, but Wayne says that it is Golden Boy. This just doesn't make sense, though, because that would make Golden Boy from early 1963? Aric, 'Yes I Can' is from the Strouse/Adams score for the musical Golden Boy. 'Yes I Can, No You Can't' is an unrelated Lee Morgan original that appears on the Gigolo. To make things more confusing, though, Lee did later record 'This Is The Life' from Golden Boy in his 1967 session that was issued in 1999 as Standards (with Wayne on board!). However, the arrangement on Standards is by Duke Pearson, not Wayne Shorter. Bertrand.

Feather probably forgot about it because I made the whole thing up! Bertrand.

Could anyone who has access to an original LP of Art Blakey's Golden Boy please tell me who the arrangers are for each piece (I know it's mentioned in the liner notes)? I only have a French reissue without notes. I know the arrangements are by Shorter, Walton and Fuller but I don't think that the breakdown in the Lee Morgan discography I have is correct. Thanks, Bertrand.

Q: How do you make an Ornette Coleman LP? A: Leave a Charlie Parker LP out in the sun all day! (Just kidding - I love Ornette)

1553 was a session by the Feather family (Leonard and his untalented offspring). The results were so atrocious that Alfred had the tape erased and the session removed from all discographies. Of course, renumbering was out of the question due to the prohibitive cost involved. It is rumored that someone kept a safety copy of the Master tape

Frank Strozier?????? How long ago was this. My understanding is Strozier hasn't picked up his horn in 25 years. Bertrand.

This is very sad news. I got to know James a little (he played in D.C. a lot). He was a real gentleman, and a wonderful musician. He will sorely be missed. Bertrand.

In her Gil Evans bio, Stephanie Stein Crease suggests that the Doors 'Light My Fire' is inspired by the Gil Evans composition 'Jambangle' (I assume she is not referring to the leprechaun intro to the Doors ditty, which I have been told may have been lifted from somewhere else). From what I remember of Gil's tune, it seems like a stretch. Also, I one read that the Jefferson Airplane song 'Bear Melt' (which is more or less an improvisation on-stage) was inspired by a Gil Evans 'composition'. The only thing that comes close is 'Where Flamingos Fly', which Gil only arranged. Any opinions? Bertrand.

Cool! Another compilation! I can't wait. Bertrand.

The US Back To The Tracks did not have any alternates. It was True Blue that did. Bertrand.

Occasionally, Fantasy will combine two LPs on one CD and leave out a track for space reasons. I am trying to make a list of such instances (if only to know what I'm missing!). Note: the purpose of this thread is not to comment on the pros and cons of this practice - this has already been done elsewhere. Here are some I know of - feel free to add to this list. Thanks, Bertrand. Hank Mobley Messages - 'Alternating Current' is missing Harold Mabern Wailin' - one track missing Julian Priester/Walter Benton - one track missing ('Just Friends'?) Willis Jackson? Woody Shaw Blackstone Legacy - two tracks edited

That happened to me at a yard sale once too. I bought a backpack that apparently used to belong to Roswell Rudd, and inside was a tape containing the legendary Herbie Nichols/Tina Brooks Yale University concert that is mentioned in the Mosaic Nichols box. Haven't had time to listen to it yet... Bertrand.

I assume Speak Like A Child will have the bonus cuts. I have all the others except the Quebec. Bertrand.

Exactly what I was thinking! Bertrand.

Whit has never recorded to my knowledge, which is a shame. He also plays tenor and alto! He leads a big band which I have only gotten to see once. He's also a *really* nice guy. His son Tommy is a monster trumper player. He has two albums on Criss Cross. I hope Matthew wasn't too disruptive. He was attentively listening in the second set WHEN THE LITTLE GIRL STEPPED AWAY. But when she came back... He told me after: "I liked the jazz, but I liked the girl better!". Only twelve years until I hear: 'dad can I borrow the car keys?'. Bertrand.

Brandon and Lee-way, It was great meeting you guys as well. I will definitely keep posting about other interesting shows in the D.C. area. This was a great way to spend the afternoon, as you said. I hope they do more of these. I felt kind of bad after the fact, because I think in hindsight I did not give enough donation at the door. I based it on what they usually would charge for the week-end jam session. Michael told me he really appreciated you guys coming around. If I understand Chuck's comment, I like attending both types of concerts - new music by up and coming or established artists, and retrospectives such as this, as long as the artists make an effort to dig deep into the catalog, as Michael does. The band is: Michael Thomas: tpt Zack Graddy: ts Darius Scott: p Kent Miller: b Frank Williams: d Whit Williams: bars (second set only) The compositions were: Tom Cat (Morgan) This I Dig Of You (Mobley) Carolyn (Morgan) Exotique (Morgan) Ceora (Morgan) My Groove, Your Move (Mobley) Hocus Pocus (Morgan) A Peck A Sec (Mobley) Speedball (Morgan) No Sidewinder! Bertrand.

I will be there barring unforeseen circumstances. You won't be able to miss me either, as I will most likely have my 4-year old son with me (HR 57 is very laid back). I like to take him to early gigs where people haven't paid too much cover. He is an extremely hip jazz fan - Woody Shaw is his favorite artist. The closest subway is U-Street/Cardozo. Bertrand.

Trumpeter Michael Thomas and his group will pay tribute to Lee and Hank tomorrow, 7/10, from 2-5 PM at HR 57. Based on past experience, the cover should be minimal. HR-57 1610 Fourteenth Street NW Wash, DC 20009 (202) 667-3700 www.jazhead.com www.hr57.org I'll try to be there. Bertrand.