Jim R

That's interesting, Lon. I can't really recall a discussion about that specific idea (would seem like a good thread topic, if in fact it hasn't been done). This is not a "challenge" on my part, but could you elaborate? I don't often get into situations (outside bulletin boards, anyway) where I'm trying to initiate people to jazz, but if I were, I think I would naturally try to introduce them to some of the more "classic" artists and recordings, rather than a mix that included "stoopid" and commercial (pop oriented) jazz. At least, I wouldn't start them off with that sort of material. I don't have anything against people being exposed to it eventually (in fact, seekers like us will usually find it at some point in time). If someone doesn't respond well to the more "classic" material, maybe it could be that jazz is just not for them, as opposed to the idea that we made errors in selecting music recommendations. Just a thought... as I say, interesting topic.

Hey, at least you knew what it's called. I've known how to make it (at least on my system- it's alt-c / option-c), but didn't know it was called a cedilla ("cedilha" in portuguese... "seh-DIL-yuh". "cedille" is the Dutch/French/German spelling, BTW). Thanks- now I know! B-) Yeah, I've enjoyed checking out the MP3's, looking for nice surprises. Some of the Heraldo do Monte covers look pretty cheesy, but I know he's a very good player. "Samba pizzicato" wouldn't appeal to everybody here, but I kind of dug it- nice changes, especially the bridge. That's a tune that could be updated in more of a jazz setting with interesting results, IMO. I hear you about snobbery... I guess I just feel the urge to be critical a bit more frequently than you do. In this case, I thought it unwise to try to paint too rosy a picture here, for the sake of those who may be new to brazilian music. People can of course make up their own minds about individual recordings (and that's how it should be), but remembering how lost I felt when I was first investigating brazilian music, I think it helps sometimes to have some guidance in separating what music was/is important and what wasn't. Anyway, it is an interesting collection, and fun. If he can get people interested in the kitschy stuff as well as the classics, more power to him.

Well, "we" don't "all" like everything under the sun (except ol' blue eyes) the way you do, Lon. (see, I know how to speak on behalf of the group, too. ) Yep, I still have space issues... not something that's going to easily be resolved, I'm afraid. Still adding to the collection, just in smaller doses, and that's working okay for now. What's "Pra Barancado"? I don't recall seeing that one...

I just have taste, that's all.

Exactly. I've seen the "1ngram" name here a few times, and wondered at first if it might be Adrian, but only briefly. Besides the Wes bio, Adrian also wrote books on Gibson's L5 and ES-175 models.

Random thoughts... While that page loaded, I had breakfast and walked the dog. He (she?) should have hired a photographer. Am I the only one who hates seeing album covers photographed tilted back at a 45º angle? Do NOT forget to click on the "Backnumber" link at the top of the page (or, click here: http://sekihei.hp.infoseek.co.jp/backnumber.htm While THIS page loaded, I had lunch, walked the dog again, and had dinner (a complete lie, but I had to make my point). As always, thank you JAPAN, for showing us our cultural history. B-) Thanks, Weiz.

Hey 7, always good to see you posting. I find this curious in a number of ways. I once corresponded with Adrian (one of my guitars was illustrated in the L5 book), but that was about ten years ago. Is Adrian known to visit this board? I wonder if there are plans to put out a new edition of the book (with decent photography). ... a blues band?! B-)

Wow- I'm surprised there's this much interest in this site. A friend told me about it in January, and I've exchanged a few messages with the guy who operates it. He's a pretty serious LP collector... not sure how serious he is about music. He doesn't seem aware that a lot of these things (mostly the better stuff, including a couple of his "full" downloads) have been out on CD for years. But I understand the collector mentality too, so I'm not trying to put him down really. The site is quite interesting, especially with all the large cover scans, etc. The actual music he has ranges from rare and classic to... rare and kitschy (and/or bizarre!). In other words, this is one guy's idea of a cool LP collection, but a large percentage of it does not really represent the best of the genre. Anything with "Bossa" or "Balanço" (which roughly translates to "swing") seems to be fair game. Anyway, it's fun. I prefer the geometric/abstract covers (like in Ubu's post) over the posed dancers, etc, but some of the goofy ones are pretty interesting too, and some contain some very good musicians (Heraldo do Monte, for example). BTW,that Baden Powell "A Vontade" cover is supposed to be black, white and red (the little squares were actually red, as well as part of the Elenco logo, of course).

Once I was able to get up off the floor, I realized that this was the version I was familiar with (haven't checked to make sure, but Big Al knows his hard bop history, so I'm going along with it). Back to the floor... WAIT- did you really applaud when it was over? (hey, I'm the gullible type, okay?)

Neither. I'm more along the lines of Maxwell Smart.

good shot thanks. a front row seat didn't hurt. A front row seat... This reminds me- I saw Stevie around 1975 at The Cow Palace in SF. Not only did I not have a front row seat, I was about as far away as I could have been, and that's a large arena. With a pair of binoculars, I could almost make out where he was. The music sounded just fine, though. ==== Jon, I agree with you for the most part. I also agree with the above comments about "Songs In The Key Of Life". Two LP's was too much. There were even things about some of the better songs on that which I had a hard time with (such as the way some of the lyrics matched up awkwardly with the music on "I Wish"). Stevie's scatting also began to sound weird, IMO... and unfortunately (again, IMO), a lot of soul/pop singers picked up on it as if it was a good thing... one reason I could never watch "Star Search" (not that there weren't plenty of other reasons).

Well... there's a DUH for ya (for ME, that is). It's strange now that I think about it. When I played this, I was thinking in terms of a younger player, perhaps emulating Benny to some degree, based on the fact this is a relatively modern version. I didn't stop to think that what I was hearing was Benny himself, with his post-comeback sound. I have to admit, I have kind of neglected his later work, ever since hearing some of those (early 90's?) Jazztet reunions, which didn't do a lot for me. I wanted to keep the older Golson sound in my head, I guess.

Oh no... If I don't vote, then I won't know what the results are. I think I'll vote for TALKING BOOK, but when you view the standings, take a half point away from that and add a half point to INNERVISIONS. Is that BRILLIANT, or what? B-)

Well, I've thought about it, but I can't vote for one. It's absotively, posilutely between TALKING BOOK and INNERVISIONS for me, though. The albums before and after were certainly not chopped liver, but to me the pinnacle was those two. I'm far more sentimentally attached to INNERVISIONS, which came out just before I started dating my future (and current) wife. In fact, we chose "Golden Lady" for our first dance at our wedding reception. But TALKING BOOK was a superb album too.

THE GOAL We see this wonderful part of our past slowly dying out and are concerned that one day these recordings will be completely forgotten. Our mission is to give them a new lease on life.

Anybody heard anything about this device, or used one? Is it a new design? Just curious... I know a fellow boardmember wanted to get one for Mac. This basically seems to be an external soundcard, no? I hope you're not asking me... or Joe.

First impressions... -- 3. “On the sunny side of the street”. Sounds like EE again, with Hodges. I don’t know who the vocalist is... pretty decent Satch impression, though. 4. Is this “T’ain’t whatcha do”? 5. EKE... BBB? 6. “Basin Street Blues”, but I don’t know who. 7. “Mood indigo”. No idea who. 8. Ooooh, beautiful. I should know the title... it’s one of Strayhorn’s, yes? I could easily go my CD’s and find out, but I’m going to admit that this is one of those familiar themes that I can’t name. Anyway, this is a very nice treatment. Wonderfully played, and nicely recorded... must be relatively modern. 9. Interesting minor blues... don’t think I’ve heard this one before. Very interesting arrangement for trio. I like the “logical” approach this pianist takes when soloing. I don’t have any ideas on this one yet, but I will be paying attention to see who this is. 10. “Fly me to the moon”. Sounds to me like Joey DeFranceso... ...I think. I don’t recognize this guitarist. 11. “Whisper Not” makes another appearance....and that’s a good thing, as far as I’m concerned. There are brief (lower register) passages in the tenor solo where this player sounds very familiar to me, but I can’t quite put my finger on who this is. Whoever it is, I’m largely impressed, overall. 12. “Body and Soul”. Nice rendition, without the traditional anchor of a chordal instrument in the mix. Very much a reverent treatment, despite the modern approach. I don’t recognize the tenor, but I like the sound and note choices. It’s not one of those “hey look at me” kind of things. As I say, reverent. No flash necessary, because it’s thoughtful and fresh, while relying on the classic structure of a great song. I don’t know my bass players very well, but this person sure gets a nice big, resonant sound, and my comments about the tenor’s note choices would also apply here. Tasty. And the drummer (who almost goes unnoticed unless I move closer to my speakers) may be the tastiest player here. Very well done. 13. I don’t recognize the voice... 14. Is that “Jada”? Yes, there comes the vocal. Fats Waller? I dunno, just a guess. Fun stuff.

This will be kind of brief and incomplete, but it's all I've had time for so far... 1. “Old Folks”. Very lovely treatment. I’m not familiar with this recording... sounds like a group of veteran swing era players... a Ben Websterish sound. 2. Short & sweet. This is too early for me to have much of a clue. 3. Another oldie. Familiar tune, but can’t name it. This strikes me as a late 20’s or early 30’s composition... an era of music that I must admit I haven’t found much time for as of yet. 4. Is that “I’m in the mood for love”? Sounds like those changes, at least. Very nice version, but again predating my area of knowledge. 5. This sounds like a group of swingers beginning to get into the bop thing. Still has a pretty rigid feel rhythmically, and they’re not playing many altered chords in the solo section, but the head is boppish (familiar again, but not familiar enough...) 6. Another tune I recognize, but can’t name. I’m sure I own it, although not 100% sure I have this same version (only 99% ). Classic hard bop style... but I’m struggling to identify any of the players right now. I may end up kicking myself on this one. 7. Helen Merrill. At first I thought this might be from the Brownie Emarcy box, but no. That sounds like it could be Max on drums, though. I don’t own much Merrill... just never really took to the sound of her voice, although I think she’s great in many ways (I really appreciate her choices in material, for example). 8. Golson’s “Whisper Not”, played on a much maligned instrument that I have come to enjoy more and more in recent years. I don’t know who might be playing here, but I really dig it!! Damn... I should have paid closer attention to the accordion threads. 9. Yet another tune I recognize the sound of, but can’t name. Not sure I own this particular version. A nice take on the blues here, the solos are fine, though perhaps not highly memorable. I like the way the pianist comps. For some reason I’m thinking this might be on Savoy (gut feeling only). - 11. A little funk, a little electric piano, electric bass... seems we’re progressing through the history of jazz chronologically. I’ll have to listen to this again... but I have no ideas yet. -- 14. That rhythm reminds me of “Poinciana”, which makes me want to say Ahmad Jamal... but I don’t know who this is. Must listen further. 15. Wow, beautiful opening... nice tune, nice mix of sounds/colors. Not crazy about the trombone solo; but the tenor and piano sound very nice. This had kind of a familiar vibe to it, but I can’t say for certain that I’ve heard it before. -- 18. I’ll say EE (with a K in there somewhere) Wow, this was very challenging, despite the familiarity of several tunes... or maybe because of the familiarity of several tunes! Argh! B-)

Anybody heard anything about this device, or used one? Is it a new design? Just curious...

Okay, help me out here. If I've been aware of your websites for months (years?), and have them bookmarked, what am I missing? Do you continually edit your signature? If I'm not missing anything, is it really "stupid" for me to have signatures turned off? And no, I'm not going to start typing out those URLs I wouldn't type them, I'd paste them in. Anyway, in your case I do see the convenience of having a signature to auto-post your links for the benefit of newcomers or people who haven't paid attention. ...that's the whole damn point of having a signature! You mean, to you? To some, I used to get the feeling that the whole damn point was to get us all acquainted with the wisdom of Homer Simpson, or Frank Zappa, or Winston Churchill, or... (etc).

I sure remember that. I was only 6 or 7 when that was airing. Watched it with my older brothers, and got the piss scared out of me a few times. Here's an interesting page on that: http://members.aol.com/terrortv/thrillerlist.html I also remember... ... which later became "The Alfred Hitchcock Hour".

Yes, you can choose not to view other posters' signatures. I've had my controls set that way for most of the life of this board. To me, they became redundant, were often meaningless, sometimes took up a lot of space, and on my system, the less data that has to load, the better. I'm pro-smileys. They can be over-used and abused sometimes, but they can be very important in communicating, and they're fun as well, IMO.

I don't know about Rooster, but I have signatures turned off in my control settings, so I don't see Mike's links in his post either. Already hip to them, though.

There are a variety of pies that I like, and probably fewer varieties of cake that I like... but when it comes right down to it, a well-conceived and well-made chocolate cake (the extremely rich and unhealthy type) is going to stand out above anything else you may offer me.

Ah yes, Gourley it was. My brain was having a nap, I think. Anyway, I have some Gourley and think he's pretty good, but generally he doesn't really do it for me (just a personal taste thing).