Jim R

Thanks in large part to the presence of one Jon Hendricks, who of course wrote, arranged, and performed on that album. Didn't hurt to have the Basie orch., Tommy Flanagan, Richard Davis, Philly Joe Jones, James Moody, Bobby McFerrin, McCoy Tyner, Ron Carter, Grady Tate, Dizzy Gillespie, Walter Davis Jr., Richie Cole, and Dick Hindman aboard on that, as well. My favorite LH&R recording was "The Swingers" on World Pacific, but I imagine it's still OOP (hope I'm wrong). I'll second (or shall I say, 72nd ) Jim's recommendation of Eddie J as well. Dig around. He recorded as a sideman as well as a leader. I was just listening to his features on a couple of James Moody's Prestige OJC's ("Hi Fi Party" and "Moody's Mood For Blues") that I FINALLY added to my collection, and although a small portion of each CD, they really make a nice impact (personally, I kind of prefer EJ in measured doses anyway).

Hey, I hope all is going better for you. I'm sure Mike will appreciate your post, but I don't feel as though you really need to apologize to the BFT group in general. No skin off any of our noses, afaik.

Allen, I'm listening. I appreciate everyone's input here- really. Obviously, I'm a rookie... just getting my feet wet... I didn't mean to suggest that the P.R.O. was the only way to go, by any means. At least their work is relatively easy to get one's hands on, and I admire the fact that Benjamin has worked hard to give life to forgotten scores. I was surprised at the lack of material from this era in the local stores. It seems to get lumped into the "jazz" category, and even then there is virtually nothing to choose from. I found a few discs of Joplin music in Tower's (classical) "composers" section, and that's about it.

BANJO !? You think I'm that hard up? Seriously, though, I'm more fond of the guitar, but I'm open to the idea (as long as it presents itself at an irresistable price ). Thanks.

Thanks, Lon. I hope your hunch turns out to be wrong! I suppose I may never become as enthusiastic about turn-of-the-20th century music as I am about the music of the mid-20th century, but I think there is potential here for at least an occasional "fling" (and not just a temporary one, as I think this could provide an ongoing outlet for a change of pace from the music with which I've already gone overboard ). Over the past week, I've purchased a few CD's of Joplin music (scored used copies of a couple of the "piano roll" variety on the Biograph label; as well as a collection of the Canadian pianist John Arpin's interpretations), all of which I'm thoroughly enjoying in measured doses. Right now I'm just letting the mood wash over me... I haven't felt much of a desire to analyze it. In addition, I've ordered a CD by the Paragon Ragtime Orchestra from Tower online, and may soon be ordering more- directly from Rick Benjamin himself. The internet truly is an amazing thing... one week ago I was groping around for a clue as to what it was that was calling to me, and now I'm exchanging e-mails with a man who is an important figure in preserving and celebrating the music of that era. Anybody who feels even remotely interested should definitely check out the P.R.O. websites- both the "New World Classics" (the group managing the band) pages as well as Rick's site. And thanks again to LAL for making me aware of them. I'm still planning to pursue the instrumental guitar aspect of this as well. I have done some searching around with regard to the work of Guy Van Duser, and so far it's apparent that he covers quite a bit of stylistic ground. He has recorded quite a few CD's, one of which ("Stride Guitar") looks like it might be what I'm looking for. Of course, it's his only title that is available only out of Japan... at $35+

I see you changed your request. Here you go... The Complete Roulette Studio Recordings Of Count Basie And His Orchestra DISC 1 (A) Wendell Culley, Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Bill Hughes, Benny Powell (tbs), Frank Wess (as, fl), Marshall Royal (as), Eddie Lockjaw Davis (ts), Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). NYC, September 19, 1957 12419-6 Gee Baby, Ain't I Good To You vJW 4039, 52033 12421-1 Love Me Baby a/cJM unissued 12420-5 Confessin' The Blues vJW unissued 12422-5 J and B a/cJM unissued (B) Wendell Culley, Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Al Grey, Benny Powell (tbs), Frank Wess (as, fl), Marshall Royal (as), Eddie Lockjaw Davis, Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). NYC, October 21, 1957 12468-4 Flight Of The Foo Birds a/cNH 52003 12469-6 Double-O a/cNH 52003 12470-8 L'il Darlin' a/cNH 52003, 52050, 52111 12471-2 Whirly-Birds a/cNH 52003, 52111 12472-14 Duet a/cNH 52003 12473-7 The Kid From Red Bank a/cNH 52003, 52111 12474-4 Midnight Blue a/cNH 52003 12475-6 Teddy The Toad a/cNH 52003 ___________________________________________________________________ © same personnel as (B) NYC, October 22, 1957 12476-10 The Late Late Show vJW unissued 12477-4 Silks And Satins a/cJM unissued 12478-4 Sleepwalker's Serenade a/cJM CDP7-97772-2 12478-6 Sleepwalker's Serenade unissued 12479-4 The Late Late Show 4109 12480-6 Splanky a/cNH 52003 DISC 2 12481-5 Fan Tail a/cN12482-6 After Supper a/cNH 52003 (D) Wendell Culley, Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Al Grey, Benny Powell (tbs), Frank Wess (as, fl), Marshall Royal (as), Billy Mitchell, Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). Chicago, March 4, 1958 12792-9 Blues In Hoss' Flat a/cFF 52032, 52050, 52111 12793-9 H.R.H. (Her Royal Highness) a/cTJ 52032, 52111 12794-11 How Can You Lose vJW 4061 12795-2 Five O'Clock In The Morning vJW 4061 __________________________________________________________________ (E) same personnel as (D) : NYC, April 3, 1958 12840 Pensive Miss a/cNH 52011 12841 Bag A' Bones a/cNH 52011 12842 Has Anyone Here Seen Basie? A/cNH 52011 12843 Scoot a/cNH 52011 __________________________________________________________________ (F) same personnel as (D) : NYC, April 4, 1958 12844-7 Sloo Foot a/cNH 52011 12845-6 Pony Tail a/cNH 52011 12846-11 Late Date a/cNH 52011 12847 You're A Memory vJW aNP unissued 12848-5 Tell Me Your Troubles vJW aNP rejected 12849-3 Hallelujah I Love Her So vJW aNP unissued 12849-4 Hallelujah I Love Her So vJW aNP 4103 Note: Master 12847 is YOU'RE A MEMORY by Joe Williams and the band. No tape exists of this unissued performance or the master take of 12849. The only source disc we could find was a worn 78 pressed off-center! So we've sustituted the mono master of the preceding take for the purposes of this set. On these numbers, Nat Pierce replaces Basie on piano. (G) same personnel as (D) : NYC, April 14, 1958 12897-5 A Little Tempo Please a/cNH 52011 12898-6 Count Down a/cNH 52011 12899 It's Awf'ly Nice To Be With You a/cNH 52011 12900 Cute a/cNH 52011 ____________________________________________________________________ (H) same personnel as (D) NYC, April 28, 1958 12820-3 Moten Swing aEW unissued DISC 3 ____________________________________________________________________ (H) Wendell Culley, Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Al Grey, Benny Powell (tbs), Frank Wess (as, fl), Marshall Royal (as), Billy Mitchell, Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). NYC, April 28, 1958 (continued from Disc II) 12821-2 Half Moon Street a/cFW 52032 12822-2 Who Me a/cFF 52032 12823-4 Ol' Man River aJM unissued ____________________________________________________________________ (I) same personnel as (H) : NYC, April 29, 1958 12936-9 Kansas City Shout a/cEW 52032 12937-8 Mutt & Jeff a/cTJ 52032, 52111 Tk 3 Fair And Warmer a/cEW unissued 12938 Can't Leave That Woman Alone vJW unissued 12939 Pigalle Love vJW unissued Note: The original Roulette log lists the last two items. However, no tapes of these unissued performances exist. ____________________________________________________________________ (J) same personnel as (H) : NYC, September 9, 1958 13068-10 M-Squad Theme a/cBC 4109 Note: The rest of this session is devoted to selections with Lambert, Hendricks and Ross. ____________________________________________________________________ (K) same personnel as (H) : NYC, October 15, 1958 12848-R8 Tell Me Your Troubles vJW 4103 Note: The rest of this session is devoted to selections with Lambert, Hendricks and Ross. ____________________________________________________________________ (L) same personnel as (H) : NYC, December 10, 1958 Tk. 5 Imagination unissued 13410-4 The Deacon a/cTJ 52032 13411-4 Speaking Of Sounds a/cTJ 52032 ____________________________________________________________________ (M) same personnel as (H) : NYC, December 12, 1958 13412-4 Segue In C a/cFF 52032, 52111 13413-6 T.V. Time a/cFF 52032 ____________________________________________________________________ (N) same personnel as (H) : NYC, December 18, 1958 13442-4 Rat Race a/cQJ 52024, 52117 13443 For Lena And Lennie a/cQJ 52024 ____________________________________________________________________ (O) same personnel as (H) : NYC, December 19, 1958 13444-8 The Big Walk a/cQJ 52024, 52117 13445-13 The Midnite Sun Never Sets a/cQJ 52024 DISC 4 ____________________________________________________________________ (P) same personnel as (H) : NYC, December 20, 1958 13446-7 Meet B.B. A/cQJ 52024 13447 A Square At The Roundtable a/cQJ 52024 (Q) same personnel as (H) : NYC, January 24, 1959 13513-6 Muttnik a/cQJ 52024 13514-14 Jessica's Day a/cQJ 52024 13515-9 Quince a/cQJ 52024 13516-5 I Needs To Be Bee'd With a/cQJ 52024 ____________________________________________________________________ ® John Anderson, Thad Jones, Snooky Young, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Al Grey, Benny Powell (tbs), Marshall Royal (as), Frank Wess (as, fl), Billy Mitchell, Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari, fl), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). Chicago, September 24, 1959 14369-8 What Did You Win vJW 52033, 52093 14370-3 Cherry Red vJW aFF 52033 14371-5 Baby Won't You Please Come Home vJW aBM 52033 14372-5 Everyday I Have The Blues vJW 52033, 52093, 52111 ____________________________________________________________________ (S) same personnel as ®: Chicago, September 25, 1959 14373-6.....Ain't No Use vJW....................52033, 52093, 52111 14374-8.....Shake, Rattle And Roll vJW.....52033 14375-1.....Good Morning Blues vJW.........52033, 52093 14376-3.....Just A Dream vJW aFF............52033 ________________________________________________ (T) same personnel as (D) or ® exact date and location unknown 14471.....It's A Low Down Dirty Shame vJW.....52033 ______________________________________________________________________ (U) same personnel as ® : NYC, December 16, 1959 14679-13 It Had To Be You aTJ 52036 14680-4 Back To The Apple a/cFF unissued DISC 5 ____________________________________________________________________ (V) John Anderson, Thad Jones, Snooky Young, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Al Grey, Benny Powell (tbs), Marshall Royal (as), Frank Wess (as, fl), Billy Mitchell, Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari, fl), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass) Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). NYC, December 18, 1959 14681-8 Give Me The Simple Life aTJ 52036 14682-18 It's A Pity To Say Goodnight aTJ 52036 ____________________________________________________________________ (W) same personnel as (V) : NYC, December 28, 1959 14683-21 Fools Rush In aTJ 52036 14684-5 Makin' Whoopee aTJ 52036 ____________________________________________________________________ (X) same personnel as (V) : NYC, December 30, 1959 14685-9 Easy Living aTJ 52036 14686-8 (Once I Had A) Secret Love aFF 52036 14687-9 Can't We Be Friends? aTJ 52036 ____________________________________________________________________ (Y) same personnel as (V) : NYC, prob. December 31, 1959 14688-11 Misty aFF 52036 14689-9 How Am I To Know? aTJ 52036 (Z) Sonny Cohn, Thad Jones, Snooky Young, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Al Grey,Benny Powell (tbs), Marshall Royal (as, cl), Frank Wess (as, ts, fl), Billy Mitchell (ts, cl),Frank Foster (ts), Charlie Fowlkes (bari, bcl, fl), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). NYC, June 7, 1960 15060-4 The Daly Jump aCB & FG 52044 15061-4 Out The Window aFF RB-1, 52089, 52111 15062-8 Texas Shuffle aFF RB-1, 52089 ____________________________________________________________________ (AA) same personnel as (Z) : NYC, June 8, 1960 15063-7 Topsy aFF RB-1, 52089 15064-1 Swinging The Blues aFF RB-1, 52089, 52111 15065 Mama's Talkin' Soft aTJ rejected ____________________________________________________________________ (BB) same personnel as (Z) : NYC, June 9, 1960 15065-11 Mama's Talkin' Soft aTJ 52044, 52057 15066-2 Tickle Toe aFF RB-1, 52089 15067-1 Back To The Apple a/cFF 52044, 52053 15068-5 Jumpin' At The Woodside RB-1, 52081, 52111 DISC 6 15069-6 Lester Leaps In RB-1, 52081 ____________________________________________________________________ (CC) same personnel as (Z) NYC, June 14, 1960 15070-8 Shorty George aFF RB-1, 52081 15071-5 Blue And Sentimental aFF RB-1, 52081 15089-4 Doggin' Around aFF RB-1, 52089 (DD) same personnel as (Z) : NYC, June 15, 1960 15090 Not Now, I'll Tell You When rejected 15091-6 Down For Double aFF RB-1, 52081 ____________________________________________________________________ (EE) same personnel as (Z) : NYC, June 16, 1960 15092-8 Rare Butterfly a/cFF 52044, 52053 15093-7 Blue On Blue a/cFF 52044 15090-16 Not Now, I'll Tell You When a/cTJ 52044 15094-12 9:20 Special aFF RB-1, 52089 ____________________________________________________________________ (FF) same personnel as (Z) : NYC, June 22, 1960 15095-5 Taps Miller aFF RB-1, 52081 15096-6 Avenue C aFF RB-1, 52089 15097-14 Red Bank Boogie aFF RB-1, 52111 ____________________________________________________________________ (GG) same personnel as (Z) except that Gus Johnson (d) replaces Payne : NYC, June 23, 1960 15098-9 Boogie Woogie vJW RB-1, 52081 15099-10 Sent For You Yesterday vJW RB-1, 52081 15100-1 Broadway aFF RB-1, 52089, 52111 ____________________________________________________________________ (HH) same personnel as (Z) : NYC, June 24, 1960 15152-12 Swinging At The Waldorf a/cFF 52044 15153-9 Sweet nd Purty a/cTJ 52044 15154-1 Ol' Man River aJM 52044 (II) same personnel as (Z) NYC, July 12, 1960 15155-5 Dickie's Dream aFF RB-1, 52089 Session continues on Disc VII DISC 7 (II) Sonny Cohn, Thad Jones, Snooky Young, Joe Newman (tps), Henry Coker, Al Grey, Benny Powell (tbs), Marshall Royal (as, cl), Frank Wess (as, ts, fl), Billy Mitchell (ts, cl),Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari, bcl, fl), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl). NYC, July 12, 1960 (continued from disc VI) 15156-5 Rock-a-bye-Basie aFF RB-1, 52081 15157-10 Every Tub aFF RB-1, 52081 ____________________________________________________________________ (JJ) same personnel as (II) except Jimmy Nottingham (tp) and Seldon Powell (ts) replace Thad Jones and Frank Foster. NYC, July 13, 1960 15158-10 Jive At Five aFF RB-1, 52081 15159-4 Time Out aFF RB-1, 52089 ____________________________________________________________________ (KK) same personnel as (II) : Chicago, August 24, 1960 15319-4 Travelin' Light vJW aFF 52054 15320-1 Mean Old World vJW aFF 52054 15321-7 Confessin' The Blues vJW aFF 52054 ____________________________________________________________________ (LL) same personnel as (II) : Chicago, August 26, 1960 15324-7 Chains Of Love vJW aFF 52054, 52093 15325-1 Mean Mistreater vJW aFF 52054, 52093 15326 Tomorrow Night vJW aFF rejected (MM) same personnel as (II) : Chicago, August 27, 1960 15327-2 Key To The Highway vJW aFF 52054, 52093 15328-5 Lyin' Woman vJW aFF 52054, 52093 15326-R3 Tomorrow Night (remake) vJW aFF 52054 ____________________________________________________________________ (OO) same personnel as (II) : LA, September 6, 1960 15339 The Wiggle Walk a/cBC (15451) 52056, 52075 15340 Katy Do a/cBC 52056 15341 Meetin' Time a/cBC 52056 DISC 8 15342 Jackson County Jubilee a/cBC 52056 Note: Thad Jones plays cornet on 15339. ____________________________________________________________________ (PP) same personnel as (II) : LA? September 7, 1960 CAL 001 Vine Street Rumble a/cBC (15445) 52056 CAL 002 Paseo Promenade a/cBC (15448) 52056 CAL 003 Blue Five Jive a/cBC (15449) 52056 CAL 004 Miss Missouri a/cBC (15446) 52056 CAL 005 Rompin' At The Reno a/cBC (15450) 52056 CAL 006 Sunset Glow a/cBC (15447) 52056 Note: The master numbers in parentheses on these two LA sessions were assigned after the fact and reflect sequencing, not recording order. (QQ) same personnel as (II) : NYC, December 13, 1960 15632-14 Miss Lovely a/cFF unissued 15633-15 Loneliness a/cFF 52117 ____________________________________________________________________ (RR) same personnel as (II) : NYC, December 14, 1960 15634-7 Blues For Daddy-O a/cFF 52106 ____________________________________________________________________ (SS) same personnel as (II) : NYC, December 15, 1960 15635-6 Discommotion a/cFF unissued 15636-9 Unbeknownst a/cFF 52117 15637-10 Easin' It -1 a/cFF 52106 15638-12 Brotherly Shove a/cFF 52106 15639 Red Hot Mama a/cEW 52113 -1 add Clark Terry (tp), who may also appear in the trumpet section on other titles from this session. ____________________________________________________________________ (TT) Al Aarons, Sonny Cohn, Thad Jones, Snooky Young (tps), Henry Coker, Quentin Jackson, Benny Powell (tbs), Benny Carter (as), Frank Wess (as, ts, fl), Budd Johnson,Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari), Count Basie (p), Sam Herman (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Irene Reid, O.C. Smith (vcl). NYC, October 30, 1961 16354-4 Goin' On a/cBC 52086 Session continues on Disc IX. DISC 9 ____________________________________________________________________ (TT) Al Aarons, Sonny Cohn, Thad Jones, Snooky Young (tps), Henry Coker, Quentin Jackson, Benny Powell (tbs), Benny Carter (as), Frank Wess (as, ts, fl), Budd Johnson, Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bari), Count Basie (p), Sam Herman (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Irene Reid, O.C. Smith (vcl). NYC, October 30, 1961 (continued from Disc VIII) 16355-6 The Legend a/cBC 52086 16356 The Basie Twist a/cBC rejected 16357-7 The Trot a/cBC 52086 ____________________________________________________________________ (UU) same personnel as (TT) : NYC, October 31, 1961 16356 The Basie Twist a/cBC 4403, 25176 Rompin' At The Reno a/cBC unissued Note: No tape exists of this version of ROMPIN' AT THE RENO. ____________________________________________________________________ (VV) same personnel as (TT) NYC, November 1, 1961 16358-14 The Swizzle a/cBC 52086 Don't Push, Don't Pull vOCS aEW unissued Don't Worry 'Bout Me vOCS aES unissued 16360-5 Who's Blue a/cBC 52086 Note: No tape exists of the O. C. Smith vocals. Live versions from Sweden appear on MR12/MD8-135. (WW) same personnel as (TT) NYC, November 2, 1961 16364-9 Turnabout -1 a/cBC 52086 16365-6 Amoroso -2 a/cBC 52086 16366-4 Easy Money a/cBC 52086 Easy Living vIR aEW unissued Alexander's Ragtime Band vIR aEW rejected -1 Cozy Cole replaces Payne on this tune only. -2 Thad Jones (cymbal), Snooky Young (derby drum), Charles Fowlkes (claves), Basie (cowbell). Note : The Reid vocals and another take of AMOROSO with Dizzy Gillespie playing cowbell no longer exist. ____________________________________________________________________ (XX) Al Aarons, Sonny Cohn, Thad Jones, Snooky Young (tps), Henry Coker, Quentin Jackson, Benny Powell (tbs), Marshall Royal (as, cl), Frank Wess (as, ts, fl), Eric Dixon (ts, fl), Charles Fowlkes (bari), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Eddie Jones (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Irene Reid (vcl). NYC, January 13, 1962 16515-14 Yes Sir, That's My Baby vIR unissued 16516-7 Untouchable vIR aEW 4411 16517-2 Alexander's Ragtime Band vIR aEW 4411 16518-4 Backwater Blues vIR unissued (YY) Al Aarons, Sonny Cohn, Thad Jones, Fip Ricard (tps), Henry Coker, Quentin Jackson, Benny Powell (tbs), Marshall Royal (as, cl), Frank Wess (as, ts, fl), Eric Dixon (ts, fl), Frank Foster (ts), Charles Fowlkes (bcl, bari), Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (g), Art Davis (bass), Sonny Payne (d), Irene Reid (vcl). NYC, July 1, 1962 16825-6 The Elder a/cTJ 52113 16826-3 Four-Five-Six a/cFF 52106 16827-7 Toot Sweet a/cTJ 52117 16828-4 Summer Frost a/cFW 52113 16829 The Song Is You rejected ____________________________________________________________________ (ZZ) same personnel as (YY) except Gus Johnson (d) replaces Payne: NYC, July 3, 1962 16829-8 The Song Is You unissued 16830-4 I Got It Bad 52113 DISC 10 16831-5 Them's That Got vIR unissued 16832-2 It Won't Be Long vIR unissued ____________________________________________________________________ (AAA) same personnel as (YY) except Major Holley (bass) replaces Art Davis, and Gus Johnson (d) replaces Sonny Payne : NYC, July 5, 1962 16849-7 Matte Jersey a/cFF 52113 16850-4 Molasses a/cJN 52117 16851-8 Thanks For The Ride 52113 ____________________________________________________________________ (BBB) same personnel as (YY) except Ike Isaacs (bass) replaces Art Davis : 16867-9 The Third Stage a/cEW unissued 16868-10 I Gotcha a/cEW unissued (CCC) same personnel as (YY) except Ike Isaacs replaces Art Davis, and Louis Bellson (d) replaces Sonny Payne : NYC, July 25, 1962 16881-8 The Touch Of Your Lips 52113 16882-7 Bluish Grey a/cTJ 52113 16883-1 It's About That Time a/cFF 52106 16884-10 Mama Dev Blues a/cFF 52106 ____________________________________________________________________ (DDD) same personnel as (CCC) : NYC, July 26, 1962 16895-5 Peppermint Pipes a/cFW 52113 16896-5 One Note Samba aLS 52113 16897-2 Basie's Jingle Bells 52111 16898-21 Lullaby Of Birdland aEW -1 52111 (edited) 16899-4 Misunderstood Blues a/cFF 52106 -1 The full version of LULLABY OF BIRDLAND is issued here for the first time. Note : Buddy Catlett is listed on bass on Roulette 52113, but he did not join he Basie band until September 1962 and is not present on these July, 1962 sessions.

The Complete Roulette Live Recordings of Count Basie (1959-1962) DISC 1 Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Eddie Jones (b), Sonny Payne (dr), Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Wendell Cully, Joe Newman (tp), Al Grey, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Billy Mitchell (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), Joe Wolliams (vo) RECORDED AT : The Americana Hotel, Miami, Florida, May, 31, 1959 The Deacon Cute In A Mellotone No Moon At All Cherry Red Can't Leave That Woman Alone Roll "Em Pete Cherry Point Whirly-Bird One O'Clock Jump Splanky Counter Block L'il Darlin' Who, Me? Five O'Clock In The Morning In The Night Smack Dab In The Middle Everyday I Have The Blues Back To The Apple DISC 2 ( on 1.- 6.): Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Eddie Jones (b), Sonny Payne (dr), Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Wendell Cully, Joe Newman (tp), Al Grey, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Billy Mitchell (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), Joe Wolliams (vo on 3.-5.), Harry "Sweets" Edison (tp on on 6.) RECORDED AT : The Americana Hotel, Miami, Florida, May, 31, 1959 ( on 7.- 21.): Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Eddie Jones (b), Sonny Payne (dr), Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Sonny Cohn, Lennie Johnson (tp), Quentin Jackson, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Budd Johnson (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), O.C. Smith (vo on 11.-13.18.19) RECORDED AT : Birdland, NYC, Jun, 27, 1961 Let's Have A Taste Moten Swing You're A Memory The Comeback Halleujah I Love Her So One O'Clock Jump A Little Tempo, Please To You Blues Backstage Segue In C So Young, So Beautiful Gee Baby, Ain't I Good To You? Don't Push, Don't Pull Basie One O' Clock Jump Corner Pocket I Needs To Be Bee'd With Pretty Eyes Smack Dab In The Middle Whirly-Bird One O'Clock Jump DISC 3 Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Eddie Jones (b), Sonny Payne (dr), Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Sonny Cohn, Lennie Johnson (tp), Quentin Jackson, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Budd Johnson (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), O.C. Smith (vo on 9.-11.), Sarah Vaughan (vo on 11.) RECORDED AT : Birdland, NYC, Jun, 27, 1961 (1.-12.) Birdland, NYC, Jun, 28, 1961 (13.-16.) The Song Is You Easin' It Moten Swing Discommotion Jumpin' At The Woodside One O'Clock Jump Red Hot Mama Discommotion Everyday I Have The Blues Person To Person Teach Me Tonight One O'Clock Jump Lullaby of Birdland Little Pony Li'L Darling Jingle Bells DISC 4 Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Eddie Jones (b), Sonny Payne (dr), Snooky Young, Thad Jones, Sonny Cohn, Lennie Johnson (tp), Quentin Jackson, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Budd Johnson (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), O.C. Smith (vo on 5.15.-17.), Jon Hendricks (vo on 9.) RECORDED AT : Birdland, NYC, Jun, 28, 1961 The Midnite Sun Never Sets The Moon Is Not Green There Will Never Be Another You Make Me A Present of You Alright Ok, You Win Basie Good Time Blues Segue In C Whirly-Bird One O'Clock Jump Blues Backstage Blee Blop Blues Corner Pocket Moten Swing It Won't Be Long Don't Worry 'Bout Me Don't Push, Don't Pul One O'Clock Jump DISC 5 Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Ike Isaacs (b), Louis Bellson(dr), Fip Ricard, Thad Jones, Sonny Cohn, Al Aarons (tp), Quentin Jackson, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Eric Dixon (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs) RECORDED AT : Dans In, Grona Lund, Stockholm, Sweden, Aug, 9, 1962 (1.-9.) Dans In, Grona Lund, Stockholm, Sweden, Aug, 10, 1962 (10.-13.) Corner Pocket Little Pony The Elder The Diplomat Speaks Li'l Darlin' In A Mellotone Jumpin' At The Woodside Back To The Apple One O'Clock Jump Easy money Four, Five, Six Ours Alone Mama Dev Blues DISC 6 Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Ike Isaacs (b), Louis Bellson(dr), Fip Ricard, Thad Jones, Sonny Cohn, Al Aarons (tp), Quentin Jackson, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Eric Dixon (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), Benny Bailey (tp on 5.-8.) RECORDED AT : Dans In, Grona Lund, Stockholm, Sweden, Aug, 10, 1962 (1.-8) Dans In, Grona Lund, Stockholm, Sweden, Aug, 11, 1962 (9.-14) Li'l Darlin' April In Paris Little Pony Summer Frost For Lena & Lennie Blues In Hoss' Flat Bluish Grey One O'Clock Jump Ours Alone Bread Plymouth Rock Be My Guest To You Cherry Point DISC 7 Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Ike Isaacs (b), Louis Bellson(dr), Fip Ricard, Thad Jones, Sonny Cohn, Al Aarons (tp), Quentin Jackson, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Eric Dixon (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), Benny Bailey (tp on 3.-11.), Ake Persson (tb on 3.-11.) RECORDED AT : Dans In, Grona Lund, Stockholm, Sweden, Aug, 11, 1962 (1.-11.) Dans In, Grona Lund, Stockholm, Sweden, Aug, 12, 1962 (12.-17.) The Touch of Your Lips Good Time Blues Blues Backstage Splanky Little Pony Who Me? Sweet & Purty Blues In Hoss' Flat Moten Swing Whirly-Bird One O'Clock Jump Ours Alone Splanky I Got It Bad Peace Pipe Prelude Sixteen Men Swinging DISC 8 Count Basie (p), Freddie Green (gt), Ike Isaacs (b), Louis Bellson(dr), Fip Ricard, Thad Jones, Sonny Cohn, Al Aarons (tp), Quentin Jackson, Henry Coker, Benny Powell (tb), Frank Foster, Eric Dixon (ts), Marshal Royal, Frank Wess (as), Charlie Fawlkes (bs), O.C. Smith (vo on 4.), Irene Reid (vo on 7.) RECORDED AT : Dans In, Grona Lund, Stockholm, Sweden, Aug, 12, 1962 Li'l Darlin' The Deacon A Little Tempo, Please Person To Person 'Deed I Do The Third Stage Backwater Blues Almost Like Being In Love Four, Five, Six Royal Blue Counter Block Peppermint Pipes One Note Samba Slides 'N Hides Bluish Grey

He seems to be claiming that it was only issued on Clef, never on Mercury. I've never heard that before, and never had that LP, but I know this- it was only listed as being on Clef in my '84 reference guide, but it's listed both ways as of the '92 Goldmine guide (with no notation indicating any doubt of its existence). Anyway, I guess it must be relatively rare. I think there are numerous examples of LP's that came out on Mercury, but were soon reissued on Clef. I have the Mercury version of JAM SESSION #1, which is valued higher than the Clef version.

Maybe Charlie Bisharat? (Did a little Googling, and that looks like a possibility...)

I'm no expert, and never even owned any kind of record cleaning machine, but first let me state what may be obvious- NO ALCOHOL on a 78. Warm water, yes, and I would baby that thing... rub gently at first, and with the grooves. Also, I hope the seller knows how to pack well (really well)...

Ain't that the truth. And it's nice to see a tireless groove hunter get rewarded like this. I can't help but wonder how Dusty Groove would describe this artifact...

Well, thanks for confusing half the people reading this thread, including me. I don't know why you had to wait three hours to answer the question after I asked you point blank, and you continued to post, and continued to be asked. I still don't understand that. HOW does one person (a person who has been here for quite awhile and should know better) fuck things up like this singlehandedly? I appreciate the good intentions, but... I dunno... this was some goofy shit. Glad it's over.

One thing I still don't get. If "Dizzy Spells" is "Deus 62", ... then even though "Deus 62" "left"... ... then he's actually still here, right? And why all the secrecy around that? Sheesh.

My damned system is so slow, I have trouble keeping up with (and responding to) fast-moving threads like this. So, a blanket "thank you" to those who supported my statements, and in general to the voices of reason (you know who you are).

Well, if you don't know what's been going down here, why do you even participate in this thread? Spend some time here and read around. Not difficult ... you can do that while I take a break. B-) 1. May I ask who you are? Did you change your handle? Thanks. It's not a big deal, of course, I'm just curious. 2. YOU seem to think that the ship is sinking. Some apparently think it's taking on too much water. I think it may be slightly off course, but I don't understand why you're heading for the lifeboats. I know it's not difficult to read around, but my impressions of what I'm reading may differ from yours. I like to ignore almost all threads and posts that don't interest me or cause me to want to respond. 3. I'm participating in this thread because I have been a member here for 2 years, and this is my favorite board, and I would not want to see it shut down... and because I FEEL LIKE IT!! ...and because I'd like to get a handle on what the big deal is. I know we've had relatively smooth sailing here up to now, but I've come to expect rough water after a board has some time to develop (this is about the sixth board I've participated on, so I've seen this type of thing before). 4. You need to relax a little.

I never said we should "leave it all to Jim". I don't even know what "IT" is. I'm serious. I don't obsess about this board and who's saying what about whom. I asked you (or anybody else who cared to) to enlighten me as to what the big problem is that we're talking about possibly shutting the board down!! I also asked which members left. I don't even know who "Dizzy Spells" is, to tell you the truth. I guess you changed your handle? I stand by my opinion that sometimes people are taking all of this too seriously, AND spending too much time here. That's fine if you disagree, but then again, maybe you need to stand back for awhile, take a deep breath, maybe go outside.

Can somebody please enlighten me as to what the hell is going on around here? I know things have been bad in the politics forum (which I chose not to view); I know Aric has had another flare-up; and I know that there are a few posters here who like to be abrasive... but that's about all I know. I don't read every thread. I spend less time on this board (and bulletin boards in general) than I used to, because it was taking too much time away from the more important things in life. Which members left? Did they announce their departure, or was it something that was discussed via PM's and e-mails? I've noticed the absence of certain members periodically, but that ebbs and flows, and I'm never sure it's permanent. I think people take all of this WAY too seriously sometimes. And I might add, the less seriously we all take it, the less of a hassle we're creating for Mr. Alfredson, who doesn't deserve to have to deal with a bunch of petty, meaningless nonsense.

I was probably misguided to associate ragtime directly with the main A.R. theme. Still, I think there's a certain vagueness about that. The song itself (written for the show in the 1990's) seems to combine the swing element as well as an earlier vibe that I can't put my finger on. I couldn't find many details at all online about that composition, except that it was written by one Tom Phillips. I find it kind of sad that there is close to zero info at the A.R. site about the show's music. The musicians themselves are not credited at all. I just pulled out some VHS tapes I'd saved, and there was a New Orleans show from a previous season where a long (Van Duser?) solo guitar piece was used behind Dan Elias' introduction to the show. A guitar rag of sorts, I think. At any rate, I know that I'm interested in investigating the music of the 1900-1915 era, not necessarily early jazz. Allen, thanks for the Archeophone Records idea. I took a quick look at the site, and I'm impressed.

I can't get the clips on the following page to work. Is it just me, or can anybody play these? http://www.paragonragtime.com/clips.html

To this day, I've only seen bits and pieces of it. I have two older brothers, and at least one of them was around when this show first aired (what year was that?) to talk me out of watching it. The same thing happened with other shows of that ilk. I was also steered away from The Monkees in the nick of time (I think I could have figured that one out for myself). Anybody know what was on (first season, let's say) the other networks in that time slot? I'm sure we watched something that has stood the test of time a little better, but I'm drawing a blank now. JK, 60's TV could be very good, and it could be very weak. B-)

Is there gonna be a slideshow?

Thanks, guys. Lon, that Titanic-related disc looks interesting. I went and listened to a few sound samples, and it seems quite varied (which didn't surprise me). I didn't really hear anything in the 5 RA samples available to me (I'm on a Mac) that really grabbed me, but who knows- there may be some other tracks that might. I'm planning to go to a couple of local libraries to see what I can find, and narrow my focus. Although I'm still not able to say exactly what it is I'm after, I'm pretty sure it's not what we would call "trad jazz". It's not jazz, or improvisation, or instrumental virtuosity that I'm looking for. It's something more structured, but with a certain pizazz, and evoking an earlier era. I'm pretty sure it's "ragtime" (in general) that I'm trying to latch onto. The thing is, I know that the influence lasted, and the music evolved, and I just don't know the history, or the artists. I followed the Novick link and realized that the guitarist playing on the Roadshow (at least on the main theme) must be Guy Van Duser (he may also be playing the pieces used for segues during the show). I also was reminded of Chet Atkins during my search, as he was a big influence on Van Duser. I know Chet played some "rags", so that may be an avenue to pursue in terms of later developments (the evolution). But first I'd like to go back and explore what was going on in that early era. All input appreciated, and please keep it coming.

Wow, that sure does help! Thank you very much LAL, that looks like a very promising lead. I listened to the MP3 sample, which was very enjoyable. I may need to gather more information in terms of satisfying my curiosity regarding what may be out there by smaller groups, solo or duet guitar, etc, but I'm definitely impressed by what I read about the P.R.O., and that page is also helpful in terms of seeing song titles and composer's names. I like that Mr. Benjamin "lives the life" and does things with the utmost care and respect for the history of the music. I like authenticity. Thanks again, and please don't hesitate to post further about your experiences with the music. I'm interested, and even if nobody else cares, I will appreciate anything you have to offer. ===== Brandon, your suggestion was not really along the lines of what I was looking for (more of the ragtime thing, rather than the early blues, gospel, hillbilly and cajun), but that's another interesting avenue to follow for sure. Probably deserves a thread of its own (if you haven't already)! Thanks. ===== Rod, thank you also. I'm sure I've heard of Novick before, but don't own anything by him. That will be a good lead to follow as well.

First of all, let me admit that I'm almost completely ignorant on this subject. I've heard a lot of old music here and there over the years, but I've never really focused on learning about it. As it relates to the development of jazz, I've read a bit in the past, but I didn't retain anything really, because I was always more interested in the music that came much later. Anyway, I'm not sure we have a discussion thread here about this (didn't find anything using "ragtime" as a keyword), so maybe my initial dumb question can lead to a worthwhile topic of discussion. Okay, the inspiration for this thread is the fact that I'm a big fan of the PBS TV show, Antiques Roadshow. I used to deal in antiques, and later, 20th century decorative arts/industrial design, etc, and I just enjoy seeing people's treasures appraised, hearing the stories, getting the sense of history, the whole thing. I also have come to realize that I really enjoy the music used on the show (the main theme, as well as the guitar music that's used during some of the segues). I went to the A.R. website in hopes of at least getting some info on their music, but could find nothing- not even in the "credits" section of the site. I seem to recall hearing or reading some years ago that the music was original (new), but that's all I know at this point. Obviously, it's based on some vintage style(s) and/or artists. But what? Who? Does anybody have any insights they could share on this? I know I'm being vague, but I can't help it. I'm guessing that there is at least some association here with "ragtime", but beyond that I'm pretty clueless. The A.R. music is instrumental (for some reason I've never even tried to analyze what instruments are being used on the main theme). It's syncopated, but has a nice relaxed vibe to it that I like. It's pretty simple harmonically speaking, but the melodies (and some of the harmony) can be very attractive. I'm guessing that the A.R. pieces were inspired by styles that were going on around the 1900 to 1915 era... but that's just kind of an intuitive feeling. Maybe this type of instrumental music remained popular longer than that, and overlapped with the beginnings of jazz...? At any rate, I'm getting the itch to learn more about this, and perhaps make a few purchases. I think the earliest music I have in my collection are the Gershwin piano rolls of 1916-27 (collected by Artis Wodehouse, and released on CD in 1993 on Elektra Nonesuch). I love this stuff, but being solo piano, it's slightly different from the music on Antiques Roadshow. That's enough for starters... I don't want to put my cluelessness on display all at once. Any help / ideas appreciated.

Thanks Lon. I guess I would say I see a distinction here between the "less important" (forgive me, but I'm struggling to choose adjectives here) jazz artists you mention and the "less important" brazilian artists we were generalizing about on the Sabadabada site. That is, if Lou Donaldson, Ramsey Lewis, Lou Rawls, Dinah, etc, are the examples you would use to illustrate "less important" in the jazz vein... well, I think you see where I'm going with this. There are quite a few names on the "Music" page at Sabadabada that I've never heard of before, after a number of years trying to educate myself about brazilian music. Naturally, they would all be better known to a 49 year-old brazilian than they are to me, but somehow I suspect that many of them are relatively obscure names. Anyway, I see your point, and can see why the "less serious" jazz might attract people just as well or better than the "serious". With your knowledge and diversity of tastes, you surely must be one of our most ideal ambassadors. Go with what works!