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Hmm... I think most of your corrections make sense, but it was Freddie King that was a major influence on Clapton (not necessarily to the exclusion of Albert, but Clapton has made it very clear that Freddie was a huge influence on him). Anyway, this whole thing sounded like a string of incorrect assumptions, so I just did a little online searching. It appears that it was Harrison, not Clapton, who dubbed the guitar "Lucy". The Gibson website suggests that Harrison named it after Lucille Ball... the iconic redhead... (?!). At this point, I'm prepared to NOT believe anything I read about this story. The guitar in question was originally a goldtop owned by Rick Derringer, who had it refinished in red. Clapton got it from Derringer, and then gave it to George.

I've always had "signatures" turned off in my board settings. Never understood the point or the appeal. hijack! hijack!!!!! Guilty. I agree with Jim S and Shawn on the political avatar thing, btw.

I've always had "signatures" turned off in my board settings. Never understood the point or the appeal. Guess I may have to resort to that. I enjoy reading people's signature lines for the most part, don't mind those there. It's the big, annoying images that just get in the way and add no value. What I've never understood is the appeal of reading a person's signature over and over and over. Unless people changed them frequently, it seems like getting beat over the head to me. You can see what someone has chosen for their signature by visiting their public profile, so I don't want to view the same message multiple times every day. Maybe I'm missing or overlooking something. I like Jim Sangrey's signature-like phrase that he has under his avatar, and that seems like a more appropriate place for such a message, because it can be more easily "tuned out" over there (and yet it's still there if you choose to shift your eyes over to the left). I agree.

I've always had "signatures" turned off in my board settings. Never understood the point or the appeal.

I always liked it for the melody, harmony, and arrangement. I've never been a lyrics person, in fact I'd have to admit I've always been somewhat of an voluntarily apathetic dunce in that regard. Never cared much for poetry, either. At any rate, I would have thought that the dislike that a lot of people have for this song would also have a lot to do with the "bombardment" I referred to earlier. I mean, was there anybody who didn't record that tune back in the day? If you had the radio or the tv on for longer than 10 minutes, I'm pretty sure you would have heard it. And yet I still like it. When I hear it now, it has kind of an (appealing) haunting quality to it.

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It's interesting that these were favorites of yours (and your friends?) when you were in high school, considering you were in high school from what... 1985-88? I mean, most high school kids are into what's current at the time, or at least fairly current, but "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" would have been practically from your parents' generation, no? That song came out even before I was in high school ('70-'74). Anyway, I'm not knocking it, I just find it a little surprising.

I haven't been able to justify making a purchase on either of the boxed sets, but I align myself with every other aspect of Lon's post.

Evidently you didn't try the link I posted. That's okay, the more the merrier!

My god, Moranis had me on the floor, but the best part was the "Pink Floyd" ending by Eugene Levy.

Just stumbled onto this while doing a search, and found that this video had been removed from Youtube at some point. So, for future generations... here's a new link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGkv6ApgTQ

For some reason, a lot of their songs didn't resonate with me like some of the other british bands. I thought they had a good sound, but even some of their bigger singles in the 60's seem weak to me from a writing perspective (I just listened to a bunch of them at Youtube, and didn't find much to enjoy). "Long Cool Woman..." got a ton of airplay when I was in high school, but I never liked it. On the other hand, I just listened to He Ain't Heavy..., and I think it still stands up very well (it wasn't necessarily a favorite of mine back in the day, but that's probably partly due to being bombarded with it on radio AND tv).

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I can't offhand think of any of his sideman appearances that I don't like a lot. Well, perhaps "Search for the new land"... MG Oh, and "I'm tryin' to get home" - the arrangements are quite a turn off - much more so than "A new perspective". MG I like "Search For The New Land", but I pretty much agree about "I'm Tryin' To Get Home". I was never attracted to the playing of Don Wilkerson, George Braith, and probably one or two others I'm forgetting right now, so I dumped those even if Grant's playing was appealing to me. Also, I never could never really stomach much boogaloo, so there are a few of those discs I got rid of some years ago. Then there are a few of Grant's later dates as a leader ("Easy", for example), which I knew I was never going to listen to again once I heard them. So, being a GG completeist was never in the cards for me. I've got WAYYYYYY too much of some other artists, though (Dexter, Chet, Kenny Burrell...). When you get up to 80, 90, 100 recordings, it's pretty easy to realize at some point that you never really needed every one of them.

MG, sorry, I think I got my wires crossed. Your list appears complete. You really have every sideman appearance also? That's dedication... I have a lot of them, but never kept the ones I didn't care as much for.

The number of CDs in your collection exceeds what your enjoyment of that artist would warrant. Oh well, us poooor people don't have that problem Now, if you ask who's UNDER-represented in my collection... It's be the same list except Grant Green wouldn't be in there MG MG, I didn't see Grant Green on your list. I surmised that he's been on fewer than 40 releases. Yes - 34 (or 35 if you count Dave Bailey's "Reaching out", which always seems to have GG's name on it). MG I think you must be missing some, MG. I have (if I counted correctly) 40, and there are at least a few that I don't have.

I have just about everything the Beatles recorded, and I put it all on my iPod... except for that song. Listening to Ringo butcher the lyrics, the awkward phrasing... I find it painful and embarrassing. The opening line is supposed to be "I'm sitting here wondering, will a matchbox hold my clothes". To me, it souds like Ringo sings: "I'm sitting here watching a matchbox holding my clothes, I'm sitting here wondering... a matchbox holding my clothes...". ??? To make matters worse, look how it's been twisted further by some genius transcribers... here's what the first few links provided when I googled "matchbox lyrics beatles": "I said I'm sitting here watching matchbox hole in my clothes I said I'm sitting here wondering matchbox hole in my clothes".

Alexander, imo, you're going a little overboard with these Beatles lectures. To each his own. You certainly don't have to read them. Someone else on this thread has said that they are "more confident of their rock knowledge than their jazz knowledge", or words to that effect. Well, that's kind of how I feel about the Beatles. I've literally been listening to them my whole life. Not passively listening either. This is music I know as well as I know myself. They are probably the one artist that I REALLY feel qualified to discuss. Now the flip side of this is that I can come off as a bit of a know-it-all. A few years ago, my wife and I were in the car when a Peter and Gordon single came on the radio (one of the songs Lennon/McCartney had written for them. Possibly "World Without Love," I'm not exactly sure). She asked me, "Is this the Beatles?" I said no, it's Peter and Gordon, but it's a song the Beatles wrote for them. She asked me, "Are you sure?" To which I replied, "Look who you're talking to. Of course I'm sure." I will put my Beatles knowledge (lyrics, trivia, etc.) on the line against anyone else's. That's fine with me. Where better to display your knowledge of, and enthusiasm for, the Beatles than on a Beatles thread? I don't really understand these people criticizing you for it...that's a little like going on the Grateful Dead thread and dumping on someone for being so damn positive about The Grateful Dead. Myself, I don't much care for the Dead and don't know much about them either, so I don't go on that thread, because I don't think I'd have much to add. Make sense? I think so. Wow. By way of review... I stated very clearly that I was not questioning his knowledge. I ribbed him a little bit about his approach. I said I was being half-serious (are the smileys working?). He ADMITTED that he was aware that he was coming across like a know-it-all sometimes (and btw, there's more to all of this than facts and non-facts). I reacted to what I thought was a silly statement about Ringo not being a "GREAT singer" (whew, I'm glad I was sitting down when I read that). Seemed humorous to me. I closed by saying "Rock on" (positive reinforcement, where I come from). Alexander ignores my response, and people see a need to step in and defend him over this? So, did someone else "criticize" him for being knowledgeable and/or enthusiastic in this thread? (serious question- I don't even remember).

Chas, why are you getting so defensive? I corrected you above regarding your comment about how many Prestige 10" covers there are at Gokudo (and I really think it's tricky to navigate there). You didn't respond, nor did you mention the link I posted. Then you posted some covers that were on the page I linked. I only wondered whether you had noticed my post and had seen the numerous Prestige covers at Gokudo. My intention was to make sure you would see the page and enjoy it. Does that make sense? Sheesh. Thanks for posting the images, btw.

I'd really like to know what this was about, I wonder if Jim R still reads the forum. The AllMusic Guide provides the correct CD sequence . Oy. No, AMG still has the sequence wrong. All these years go by, and still nobody seems to get it, despite the fact that there are some well-known songs on this disc. I wrote to Fantasy in 1996 regarding the error in programming of tunes on the first CD release. I received a letter stating that the error would be corrected, and that I would receive a new copy of the CD when it became available. I received another Early Art CD in the Summer of 1998, and it had the exact same errors. Here is the correct track listing (at least the way they're sequenced on my CD): 1. confab in tempo 2. i'll take romance 3. wisteria 4. autumn nocturne 5. soft shoe 6. i've never been in love before 7. i'll walk alone 8. gone with the wind 9. alone together 10. pre amp On tracks 1,2,3 and 5, the group was Art Farmer,Sonny Rollins,Horace Silver,Percy Heath,Kenny Clarke. (Jan. 20, 1954) On the remaining tracks, Farmer,Wynton Kelly,Addison Farmer,Herbie Lovelle. (Nov. 9, 1954) A few months ago, when I was transferring the music to iTunes, I noticed that the CDDB had the sequence wrong, so I wrote to them too. After about two weeks of back-and-forth messages to explain and convince, they finally got it right (last time I checked).

Alexander, imo, you're going a little overboard with these Beatles lectures. To each his own. You certainly don't have to read them. Someone else on this thread has said that they are "more confident of their rock knowledge than their jazz knowledge", or words to that effect. Well, that's kind of how I feel about the Beatles. I've literally been listening to them my whole life. Not passively listening either. This is music I know as well as I know myself. They are probably the one artist that I REALLY feel qualified to discuss. Now the flip side of this is that I can come off as a bit of a know-it-all. A few years ago, my wife and I were in the car when a Peter and Gordon single came on the radio (one of the songs Lennon/McCartney had written for them. Possibly "World Without Love," I'm not exactly sure). She asked me, "Is this the Beatles?" I said no, it's Peter and Gordon, but it's a song the Beatles wrote for them. She asked me, "Are you sure?" To which I replied, "Look who you're talking to. Of course I'm sure." I will put my Beatles knowledge (lyrics, trivia, etc.) on the line against anyone else's. I'm not challenging your knowledge, and yes, you do come across as a know-it-all at times. But that's not really a big deal by itself. Anyway, I guess I was kind of being half-serious. You do sometimes come across as a candidate for President, making a speech at a BNC (Beatles National Convention). Or a professor lecturing a class. Of course I could ignore you, but I thought I could tip you to this, and try to do it in a friendly way (thus the ). The post that kind of set me off (the one that closed with the comment about Ringo's vocal ability) contained quite a few points emphasized for us in CAPS, which to me was overkill, and then there was the Ringo comment: "...And Ringo, while never a GREAT singer..." I mean, please. Even without putting "great" in CAPS, that's just silly. We KNOW! Okay, rock on.

Alexander, imo, you're going a little overboard with these Beatles lectures.

Chas, did you notice my post above? The Mulligan, as well as that Ammons All Stars, are both included on the Gokudo page I linked.

O'Brien issued a statement through NBC that indicated he was treating the incident lightly. "Last thing I remember I was enjoying the play with Mrs. Lincoln, and the next thing I knew I was in bed being served cookies and juice" O'Brien said in the statement. He must be feeling pretty well.