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My family's New Year's eve tradition is to watch "The Twilight Zone" on Sci Fi until dawn...

Jim: Read the first post again. He said that you can bring the artists with you, not just the records. In other words, you can take Monday with you! Still not going? I would be sure and bring only women. Billy Holiday Dinah Washington Abbey Lincoln (from back in the day, of course) Maria Callas Paris Hilton (She counts. She just released a new record) hehe Now your picks make sense, except Paris Hilton. If it was me, I'd snag one of those hot latin pop sensations like Shakira. Yeah, I don't see the appeal of Paris Hilton. She's a skank (and a bony skank to boot). I'd take Christina Aguilera. She can sing and she's easy on the eyes!

I hope that desert island has electricity...or that you have a LOT of batteries.

How much heaven, and how much earth?? -- if you don't mind me asking. Well, not that much, really. But it was not available ANYWHERE on-line at the time. I had to do one of those deals at Amazon where you pre-order, and if a copy comes up that's in your price-range, you get it. I had to wait almost a year before someone put a copy up for sale...

Two things: 1) Have you noticed that whenever they make trailers for foreign films in the U.S., they look like silent movies? They're so paranoid about alienating the "I hate subtitles" people that they leave out all of the dialogue. I hate that. 2) This movie looks like "The Last Emperor" meets "The Lord of the Rings." I mean that in a good way!

The first ones I remember getting were "Biograph" (actually a tape from a friends LP set), "Crossroads" by Clapton (on cassette), and a Jethro Tull box set. My first CD box set was "Star Time." The first jazz box set I owned was probably the Jackie McLean Mosaic set.

I think the postal workers deserve it, I'm just not sure that Ford does...

It must be that the Reagan and Nixon days-off didn't follow a national holiday, so the lack of mail that day was less conspicous.

Has this ever happened before? Did they suspend postal service when Reagan and Nixon died? I don't think they did. And if they haven't done this before, why does Ford (of all people) deserve such a tribute? The guy wasn't even elected to the office (he wasn't even elected Vice-President)! He didn't serve a full term! Did they suspend the mail when William Henry Harrison died after thirty days? I can understand doing it when FDR died or when JFK died (both men died in office). Flying the flag at half staff is fine, but this seems rather odd. Almost as though Bush is trying to set a precident for when he kicks off ("There better not be any damn mail when *I* die, dammit!")

My dad tells me that the 50s were only boring if you weren't paying attention (or were only paying attention to TV).

This really deserves to be in print. It's one of my favorite live albums, and a fantastic Getz session! The whole band was on fire that night! I had to move heaven and earth to get the OOP CD, but I'm glad I did!

Short answer, yes. There was a soundtrack, and it has been out on CD (in two editions, I think). The original soundtrack contained material from the album that was used in the film, but not the whole double album (I think I remember reading that the tracks had been remixed by John Entwhistle in 1979 for the film). The remastered CD edition contains non-Who tracks that were in the film like James Brown's recording of "Night Train," "He's So Fine" by the Chiffons, "Louie, Louie" by the Kingsmen, and "Green Onions" by Booker T. and the MGs. As to whether it's worth owning, I wouldn't know as I don't own it!

"Quadrophenia" is a wonderful album with a lot of memorable songs ("5:15," "I'm One," "The Punk Meets the Godfather," "The Real Me"). I do love "Tommy," however, silly storyline and all. And very few songs will EVER measure up to the sheer energy of "Pinball Wizard!"

I would also like to make one point clear: I never "dissed" JB. Mr. Brown has my eternal admiration (see my first post in this thread) and I rank him as high as any American musical genius. He occupies a rarifed place in the American Musical Pantheon. He will never be replaced, nor will his achievements ever be matched. My quibble was ONLY when some tried to suggest that JB was "one of the top five black people in America." I disagree, only because I feel that there are realms BEYOND music where people have made even more significant contributions to the well-being of black Americans, and of Americans in general. I selected King and Marshall as outstanding examples of African Americans who made the world a better place for people of all races and creeds. Are there others who have contributed in other ways? Of course there are. Unlike Clem, I don't claim to "school" people. I don't believe that you've "never heard of" Marshall. My job is not to educate you. All I offer is my opinion. As I said earlier, I have added Clem to my ignore list (the first time I have ever done so with a poster on this board). Clem is a boor and a bully and I have no time for such people. I hope I never again have to engage is such a ridiculous exchange as I have on this thread. I offer my apologies to everyone else who had to endure this childish bickering.

The reason I find this premise so distasteful is the assumption of the author and, obviously, others by their lists, to associate fame and celebrity with importance. Maybe some people ought to find out about the contributions of people like Benjamin Banaker, Garrett Morgan, Louis Lattimer, Hannibal, Elijah McCoy, Madam Walker, Nefertiti and other great queens and kings of Egypt, Timbuktu and other African nations, Gamal Abdel Nasser, Anwar Sadat, Toussaint L'Ouverture, Marcus Garvey, Jomo Kenyatta, Kwame Nkrumah, Madam Walker, Marshall "Major" Taylor and too many more to list. I don't think Nasser and Sadat were black -- they were north African Arabs. Guy Both of them said they were. Sadat addressed the Black Caucus and affirmed this and even promised financial contributions to the caucus shortly before he was killed. Regardless of what they said, if they were black there are a whole lot of black people around the Mediterranean and Middle East. Guy I hate to do your research for you but some of this stuff is real easy to look up. This is from Wikipedia: Early life Sadat was born in Mit Abu Al-Kum, Al-Minufiyah, Egypt, to a poor Egyptian-Sudanese family, one of 13 brothers and sisters. His father was Egyptian, his mother was Sudanese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadat Now go look up the Sudan. His mother was a very dark-skinned African. I don't need to make sh!t up. When I was in college, I took a pre-colonial African history course. Among other things, I learned that skin coloring has little (if anything) to do with race. There are caucasians in Northern Africa who are as dark-skinned as any sub-Saharan African (this point was emphasized when a very dark skinned African American student incredulously asked, "You mean there are caucasians in North Africa who are as black as I?" to which the professor answered in the affirmative). So there may well be "black" people in the Mediterranean and Middle East who are not necessarily Negroid. Not that it matters.

Doc, Recommend you make a choice here. Do you want to spend your posts addressing the discussion at hand, in which case a few people may keep reading your comments, or do you want to spend it dissing anyone who doesn't meet your qualifications of "authentic", which to varying degrees seems to be most anyone that would dare question you on anything. If your posts keep being of the latter variety, you'll deservedly lose your voice here, through the "ignore" options, either on the site or in our heads. Agreed. I've finally had my fill of Clem. He's on "ignore" from now on.

Somebody back me up here. This guy's a complete tool, no? I mean, this is AT LEAST the second time in the last two days or so that Clem's tried to take me to task for coming of age during the waning days of vinyl (I started buying my own music in high school. My turntable had crapped out a couple of years earlier and my folks replaced it with a boombox). We listened to TAPES, Clem, until I was in college. Christmas '92 my folks gave me my first CD player. What was under the tree to play on it? Why it was STAR TIME. You're right, Clem, I should have thrown it back in their faces and DEMANDED vinyl. What was wrong with me? Of course, now Clem's going to get on my case for the fact that my parents bought stuff for me when I was in my late teens/early 20s. I worked a crummy work/study job and was financially dependant on my parents at the time, but that shouldn't have stopped me from getting myself a sweet audio set-up and filling my student digs with authentic VINYL!

*Dripping with sarcasim* Yeah, never saw that one before... Except in the booklet to Star Time. Yeah, that's REAL hard to find. Uh, no it's not. There's a shot of him with Humphrey discussing the "Don't Be A Dropout" but I don't see the one with Nixon in my booklet. I just Googled it and it came off the Rolling Stone site. No biggie, I just get a kick out of those weird Nixon photo ops being a Watergate kid an' all. You can wipe your drips off your keyboard now. You are quite right. I have the Nixon picture in a book. The poses are very similar.

Ambergris was highly prized and much sought after during the whaling era. Melville talks about it in "Moby Dick" (as he does just about anything else whale-related). Got a problem with that, Clem?

Happy Belated Birthday, Ron!

That's JUST what I look like too!

That's Clem's theme song!

Nah, that's just the vehicle for the real argument, which is that they each think that the other one is an asshole. Word!

You know, you're absolutely right. I don't know shit about no black people, boss. Why, the only names that spring to my mind are obvious ones like Benjamin Banneker, Percy Julian, Carter Woodson, Whitney Young, James Weldon Johnson, Matthew Henson, Fannie Lou Hamer and Paul Laurence Dunbar. Doesn't EVERYBODY think of those names first off? Oh, and the only Anatole Broyard I know is the wit and critic. You know, the one who some have claim "passed" for white (obvious inspiration for Coleman Silk in the Philip Roth novel "The Human Stain"). Yes, the notion of "passing" is an interesting one that raises a number of questions about personal identity (if a man considers *himself* white (regardless of parentage), does that make him white?). I prefer to ponder the case of George Herriman, myself...

You got that one too, huh? Jeez, and I'm so LAME. You don't want to admit that you listen to the same shit as a fossil like ME.