DukeCity

Michael Brecker David Sanborn Don Grolnick

Yeah, it's 'cause I'm an "old guy". Home taping means you can make your own copies for your own use - like a cassette to play in your car. Time to grow up. See, to me there's a big difference between buring a copy of a friend's CD and illegally uploading that same CD to the internet via a file sharing service. We're talking about friends sharing the music they enjoy with one another (Remember sharing? It was an important concept back in Kindergarten), not sharing it with the entire world. Illegal downloading is bad because it is illegally *distributing* someone else's music (accross state lines and all that). What I'm talking about is *one* guy making *one* copy for himself. To play in the car, so to speak. How about this one: A good friend of mine is a music theory professor. He makes copies of copyrighted music available to his students for use in his class. They can borrow the (burned) CDs from the library and make their own copies. I believe he also makes sound files for them to download. Is this bad too? The copyright thing in a classroom has some very specific differences with copyright laws out in the real world. Even though I'm a teacher, I still haven't figured it all out. But even if I don't follow the letter of the copyright law, I like to think that I follow the spirit of the law. If your friend, the theory professor is putting one burned copy on reserve in the library for the students to have access to, that doesn't seem to be too much of an offense. I would hope that his policy would be to discourage his students from making more copies. Just as if he put his original on reserve, he should tell his students not to make illegal copies. After that, the responsibility is on the students (and I'm sure the students would do the right thing ) Another difference is with regard to sheet music. Most public school band directors I know NEVER distribute original parts to kids. They always make copies for distribution (I believe the copyright laws have specific guidelines for copying for educational purposes). Likewise, if they purchase a piece for thier band and the piece comes with 8 clarinet parts, but thier band has 27 clarinets (clearly a different kind of problem) they make enough copies to give to each kid. Getting back to the original situation of two friends copying music for each other, yes it's illegal. Yes, to some extent it's immoral. But the world of music distribution is in such a profound state of flux that I think ultimately new laws, policies and procedures are going to be enacted to account for the digital/internet kinds of issues we're facing. When we were talking about making a cassette dub of an LP or CD, it was generally understood that the cassette would entail a compromise in sound quality. Usually if someone gave me a cassette, and it turned out to be music that I wanted to listen to, I would seek out an LP/CD original of my own. With digital copies the difference in sound quality between originals and copies is minimal or non-existant, so it's a different matter. Bottom line is the bottom line. People are trying to make a living in the music bidness. If copying means that one less sale is made, then that's a bad thing. Not to mention the karmic debt one my incur...

I do these occasionally, and I look at one third of the puzzle at a time. I'm either looking a column of 3x3's, or I'm looking at a row of 3x3's. That gives me enough info to fill in at least a few 'hasta be' squares. Then I start looking at individual rows and colums to see what's missing, and what might fit where. Sounds confusing enough, no?

Thanks for the input. Think I'll hold off for a while. (haven't heard about the bluetooth 'phones)

Duke, Sorry, that was intended to be "general" not personal. No problem. I just listened to about half of Rosenwinkel "The Next Step". It's good. As I said before, those guys have tons of chops, and some nice ideas. As a writer, I'd be thrilled to have some ideas like that come out. As a saxophonist, I certainly envy Mark Turner's command of the instrument. But I would say it still doesn't get in me the way, say Kenny Garrett and Tain do. Even Chris Potter (with ridiculous chops like Turner's) gets to me (see the live record, "Lift"). So, what am I hearing with those guys? I guess with Garrett/Tain it's somewhat related to a Trane/Elvin kind of energy. With Chris Potter I think that underpinning the more modern, technical stuff is the experience he had playing with Red Rodney, and playing in a more traditional, swinging setting. So I guess maybe I am living in the past. Go figure...

Paul, Paul, Paul... why so cynical? Clearly this young man is just trying to put out some new music, and wants to get the word out to us so that we can be 'ahead of the curve'. I'd like to thank him for giving us the heads up! And Miles? Cellar Door? You're living in the past, man! I mean, 35 years ago was a totally different time: a corrupt Republican administration, our country embroiled in an ill-advised military action half-way around the world, with no end in sight. Has no relevance to what's happening in today's world. Get hip, man. Catch the wave, and the wave is idea 1.

Jesus christ, Rosenwinkel, Turner and Mehldau are but a fraction of the jazz happening right now. Granted, if your radio station isn't playing it, you don't know that, but seriously, you need to make an effort to listen to some more UNDEAD guys. They can make you feel alive too. Doubtful, but you might be surprised. There are plenty of very alive players that really touch me. I was commenting only on that particular Rosen-Turner fraction. Easy does it...

Too true, too true! I heard someone use the description of the Rosenwinkel/Turner, etc. camp as being "heady" music. While I admire thier technique, and to a certain extent, thier thoughtful approach; and while I don't doubt thier sincerity for a moment, I find that the music that results very rarely grabs me in the gut/heart in the way that a lot of the old dead guys do.

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I think it's just a trick of the sunlight, but it kinda looks like Ronnie Cuber's head has been pasted in from another photo. Odd-looking (the photo, not Ronnie).

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Wait...Dexter Gordon? I thought this thread was about Ruth Gordon! I dig Dexter, but Ruthy couldn't swing for shit!

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Quick scan of the Mosaic site, and I don't see any Latin Jazz. Do the Mosaic folks think the LJ thing is a little beyond thier purview?

Dave Parlato (who also played on some Zappa dates, and with Don Ellis) now lives here in New Mexico. He's a sweet cat and a great bass player. I always enjoy the chances I get to play with him! Glad to hear that this re-issue is coming!

Sad news. RIP, Lou. I heard a record of his called Tobacco Road with some great big band arrangements behind him (I think done by Onzy Matthews). A hard-to-find record, no doubt to become even harder to find!

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Oh, for shame! How can you possibly be advocating that these young men forfeit thier college education! For someone to head into today's world without a college diploma would be just a crime! The life skills they glean, the intellectual curiosity that gets fostered, the social fraternity of thier college brothers are things that will carry them through thier lives! What?... oh, hang on a minute...they'll get how much?... for how many years?... AND endorsements worth HOW much? Never mind. Screw it. Go for the $$$! God bless you! And don't forget the spiritual value of philanthropy; especially toward the support of starving jazz musicians! BTW, what a great game. Vince Young looked like he could do just about anything he wanted out there.

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Here's Lin circa 1955 from a webpage here with an obituary. It mentions Lin replacing Wayne Shorter in Maynard's band in the early '60s, and also losing his cabaret card at some point.

Sorry for the repetition. I did an organissimo search with the two 'n' spelling of his first name, and that thread didn't come up. But since we're up... any other recollections?