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First of all, thanks to Nate for providing us with this nice and very well programmed and structured compilation. I´ve just heard it a couple of times and I´m afraid I´m totally clueless on who´s playing on each track, as you predicted most of us would be… even for that “well-known” musician. I won´t even try to guess names! So, let´s face the music itself as we´ve been suggested. Though I was thinking about giving it a few more listenings to set things right and digest the music properly, I´ll throw myself onto the flames and post my answers now. I apologize for any inconsistency I may say from a musical theory point of view… I´m as ignorant as I´ll show here... 1.- Surprising start for this BFT. Funny instrumentation (strings, bass clarinet, percussion) and curious arrangement. The main theme (in all its variations) is a very slippery, but somehow repetitive one. ***1/2 2.- Brief piano solo track. Interesting right hand fast lines interrupted with sudden stops. Left hand alternates between shocking bass chords and brief responses to the right hand and intriguing scales (I think). I wouldn´t dare bring a name, but the fierceness of the playing in some passages reminded me of Cecil Taylor and the abstraction in other passages reminded me of Paul Bley. A big for this one! ****1/2 3.- Beautiful opening statement (piano & reed). More strings (cello). More solo piano (much more conventional than in the previous track). More soprano sax and cello. A very “cool” track! *** 4.- Hey, the temperature is rising! How many reeds are there? Good solos and interaction between horns. I really dug the beat the drummer and the bassist are bringing! But finally, and though the track´s quite long, I wish it had “exploded” more, I mean had had a higher “climax”. It left me with a sense of unfinished work… ***1/2 5.- I´m afraid this is not my kind of stuff. How long will it take to start the party? Two minutes and nothing has happened. Moreover, I don´t like the rhythm section (neither that rocky bass support, nor that tedious percussion). The trumpet and the bass solos don´t tell me a lot and the reed´s sound is too “cool” for me. **1/2 6.- More West-Coast oriented jazz. Languid piano. A bit static and unswinging track, but this time I dug the sax player (Jimmy Giuffre??? Lee Konitz???). *** 7.- Geez, I think I can recognize a few notes of a Monk tune at the opening! I´ll check it later. Now there´s a very swingin´ rhythm section. Hey, that piano smokes! Love that interaction between the piano and the sax at around 5:30. Great music. **** 8.- Relaxed piano-bass duo to chill it. I´m afraid I should know the tune but nothing pops up! I´m not very inspired this morning, I´m afraid. The musicians sound familiar, should I know them? ***1/2 9.- No idea on who´s playing here… once again! Notwithstanding, something here sounds like some CD I have. ***1/2 10.- Shockin´ introduction, with that bass soloing, those powerful drums and that big toned sax. Melody is more than OK for me. Maybe my favourite track so far. My wild guess: RRK, because this one has the same groove and many non-jazz influences as there are in some RRK recordings and I find many resemblances of his tone. ****1/2 11.- Nice piano trio. Wait a minute: there are some passages where it looks like there are two pianists (0:35-1:10; 2:35-3:10). If there´s only one, his hands are more than independent! **** 12.- Looks like a pianist date featuring a saxophonist and a trumpet player. The general feeling is that the pianist is the leader: his sound dominates. Dig it! ***1/2 13.- More piano trio. Don´t like neither the sound of the bass nor the drummer´s while playing snare (no problem with cymbals). Just OK for me. *** 14.- Oh, I should know this beautiful tune! Beautiful guitar playing. Very nice. **** The overall impression is that it´s a well balanced blindfold test. Much piano, reeds, some strings… Umm, in fact there´s just a little brass featured. Some cool jazz, some more swingin´ jazz... And it´s not as “outside” as I was expecting from Nate, an avant-garde expert, AFAIK. I would say most of the tracks are “inside” jazz, though many of them near the limits! Thanks again for a great BFT!!!

Frankie Trumbauer occasionally played some bassoon: -with Ray Miller´s Orchestra: "Nobody Knows What A Red Head Mama Can Do" (Brunswick 2778) where he takes the first solo on bassoon -" 'Tain't So, Honey, 'Tain't So", "High water" and "Chloe" (1928) Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra. Trumbauer plays bassoon, though I must check it to see if he soloed. -"Running Ragged (Bamboozlin´ the basson)" Joe Venuti's Blue Four (1929, Okeh). Trumbauer plays bassoon and C-melody sax.

JANET GRICE

And yes, your Japanese tours:

He was reported playing alto on one of his last Japanese tours, or was that the electrified Varitone sax? But I think you have listed all of them. David Wild should know! One more (from David Wild´s Wildplace):

In case we include the non-original Candid label, I´d recommend Gary Bartz´s "West 42nd street" (1990).

Check amazon marketplace. You usually find all of them used (and even sealed) for very reasonable prices. EDIT: I mean, the Cecil Taylor discs (don´t know if the rest of the Candid catalogue is available)

Next time I´ll see Canal Street Jazz Band live, I´ll tell them they were rated 4,5 stars in a blindfold test, with Ornette Coleman being rated 3 stars, ODJB 2,5, John Lewis & Paul Gonsalves 3,5... They´ll feel very happy and maybe they will raise their fees...

You not recognizing Buck Clayton, Dicky Wells or Earle Warren....?

I KNEW you would nail that one! Good reflections on Little Jazz. In his early years, he was supposed to have learned a good ammount of Hawk´s solos and played them on trumpet. He was a real innovator, the actual link between Pops and Dizzy... But I do like his later years as well!!!

Trane on alto? Did Coltrane ever record playing alto apart from his 1945 sessions with Jimmy Johnson big band & US Navy Band (rejected at their time); his 1946 sessions with Dexter Culbertson´s Navy Band; his recordings with Dizzy Gillespie Orchestra (1949) and Sextet (1950); and the Gene Ammons All Stars sessions on 1958?

I agree re your opinion on Keppard. A highly underrated trumpeter with a very distinctive tone, very New Orleans-ish. There´s an interesting volume covering 1923-27 in the King Jazz label. And, though agreeing in the quality of ODJB music, full of gimmicks and tricks, I must recognize I enjoy their freshness. It´s funny music! Besides this Timeless Records release, I also recommend another volume on King Jazz: "The ODJB in London 1919-20". Long life vintage jazz! B)

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Which (in my opinion) means they're not good enough. The legions of non-Spanish players in Spanish teams (what, supposedly, raises our LIGA as one of the best national championships in the world) has a lot to do with this. Too many millions of euros involved.

You´re welcome, Milan. Now take a look at the answers.... ...and you´ll have a few surprises!

Received the disc today. Will give it a spin tonight. Thanks, Nate.

Thanks for your replies, Milan. I know you´ve been very busy lately. And if you liked pianist on track 10... you´ll know much more about him sooner or later

Come to Organissimo, the place to hang out with talibans... (just kidding, pepe)

There´s nothing like some help from organissimo members... TOM WILLIAMS WEBSITE (including bio, recordings, gallery, links, events...) Notwithstanding... -no recordings since 2001 -not very busy schedule for 2003 or 2004, if you check "events" Another lost promise?

From Kennedy Center Millenium Stage Archives:

Thanks, John. Yes, it could be TOM (or TOMMY) WILLIAMS -AMG-

Listening to Antonio Hart´s "For the first time" (1991) I found this trumpeter playing nicely on three tracks. I really enjoyed his playing, specially in Sam Jones´ original "Del Sasser". From the liner notes: But I haven´t been able to find anything more by this guy. AMG and google searches didn´t bring anything. Have you any idea of what´s happened to Thomas Williams?

pepe: There´s a previous thread on this matter. CHECK THIS Cheers, Agustín

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