The Magnificent Goldberg

Thanks John. A LOT bigger than here, then. MG i guess john's guess is for regions which are actually inhabited... still 31 inhabitants per square kilometer in the US, 140 in Wales... (246 in the UK) Yes, it's amazing how empty the US is MG

Without the direct experience you have, HP, that's how it's always seemed to me from over here. Would you care to speculate whether a Chris Botti gig there would have had the same sort of turnout? MG

The packaging on those Quadromania sets is abominable. Bet you have to throw the box away 'cos all the little prongs are bust. Red Nichols' playing on this sounds much better than Danny Kaye's MG

No, not at all. Just getting a feel for the place. Well, feel your way over to the fridge then and get me a beer. MG

An acquaintance of mine describes this phenomenon as (more or less) discovering that your grandparents were pretty hip after all... No, it wasn't about me - it was that those kids had no idea that this was a classic record from a mere two decades before. MG

A lot of that stuff has been that old for a long time I think it was the mid-eighties when Booker T & the MGs "Green onions" became a big hit over here (for the first time), because some firm had used it as a TV advert. All my daughter's friends were shocked, (my dear, SHOCKED!) when she told them that her dad had a copy from twenty-odd years before. MG

Sure. But taking it to a different place is the thing, isn't it? It's a different world from 1967. Stuff - all kinds - needs to be taken to different places (or at least can be and sometimes is). Now, is that revivalism? It seems to be what Larry's talking about. The "old way", when the world changed, brought about a new music. Now we don't seem to have much new music, just some people with new ways of looking at old music, which is interesting. And I'm not sure that it matters which way a musician does it, if the end result is music that relates to now. But I'm not sure DBOT or Kankawa, no matter how much I like what they do, are playing music that relates to now, in the way the musics of Concha Buika, Louie Vega or Castro Destroyer and other HipLife artists I've heard recently do. And I think that means that I still think those guys are revivalists. MG

Swanee Quintet - 27th anniversary - Creed orig Johnny Jones - He walks with me, he talk to me - Creed orig Swan Silvertones - My rock - Specialty MG

Flurin, the thread was started more than a year ago! And so did I!!!!! I'll get my coat. MG

I think there was a problem earlier today. I had trouble logging on to Messenger earlier. Working now though. hmmm, when i'm lucky i get to the point where i can enter my password but not further (except for one lucky try several hours ago) edit to say thank you Yep, you're right. I just tried my hotmail account and it's not loading. got in now... weird I had that problem with Yahoo yesterday. Got in but it took forever to load each message. And I'd get quaint messages like: "you have been waiting 2333.375 seconds for this message to come in" (I kid you not, that was the number.) MG hope the number was not correct No Well, it might have been. Every morning when I log on there's a bunch of new messages notifying me of postings to threads on fora. But some of them are a day or two old before they show up in my mailbox. I think Yahoo sits on them until it thinks I'm ready for some more MG

OK, so if I now read you right, Deep Blue Organ Trio aren't revivalists because they aren't doing it to try to distance themselves in time (since they're in Chicago, they can't distance themselves geographically) from the present; they're merely continuing to play in a style that, though it's no longer got a cutting edge, still has numerous musicians, who were its exemplars in the fifties and sixties, playing. This would include Reuben Wilson, Mel Sparks, Houston Person and Lonnie Smith. I can see your point there. I'd say that the original audience for these musicians and their music has gone away and they now are playing to a different audience; one that showed practically no interest when these guys were in their prime but, once the main venues at which the music thrived had closed down, realised that it had missed something. And that Deep Blue Organ Trio are playing to this same (new) audience and not the original one. 'Course, I'm not familiar with Chicago, but I do think the Green Mill is not an organ bar. (Actually, looking at a few sleeve notes, I don't see any Chicago organ bar in the sixties - The Organizers and The Three Souls used to play at the Hungry Eye and I do recall a Kingston Trio LP having been mde there.) This is obviously not the same kind of revivalism that you're talking about. But I think it's revivalism just the same. And DBOT actually are pretty good in that they do have a different approach to the tradidtional material from what would have gone down in Newark. That was a kind of interesting bit of stuff OK, you may not have come across Kankawa. He's a Japanese organist. Made quite a few standard type of Soul Jazz albums and a duo job with Brother Jack. But he's been expanding in recent years and incorporating Rock into it - now that wasn't what Fusion was doing in my view. The Fusion guys were relating to Hard Bop, not Soul Jazz. But he's also incorporating some Japanese aesthetics into it - not Japanese music itself; just Japanese stylishness. So it sounds very different, even if he has people like Ronnie Cuber or Gary Bartz with him. (He also dresses like a cartoon version of Elton John at his most eccentric and now calls himself Kankawa 122.) Try the album BIII for a sample. If Morel interests you, Kankawa 122 will, I think. Anyway, I think he definitely qualifies. MG PS and Kankawa sure is FUN!

Thanks John. A LOT bigger than here, then. MG

I think there was a problem earlier today. I had trouble logging on to Messenger earlier. Working now though. hmmm, when i'm lucky i get to the point where i can enter my password but not further (except for one lucky try several hours ago) edit to say thank you Yep, you're right. I just tried my hotmail account and it's not loading. got in now... weird I had that problem with Yahoo yesterday. Got in but it took forever to load each message. And I'd get quaint messages like: "you have been waiting 2333.375 seconds for this message to come in" (I kid you not, that was the number.) MG

Ah yes, I'd forgotten that excellent practice of Mosaic consulting an artist when possible. MG

Is that on Rhoda's album "Very saxy"? MG Not quite sure what you refer to, but "Very Saxy" has Ricky Ford on one disc, Houston Person on the other, and Lucien Dobat (drums) and Melvin Sparks (guitar) on both. It's from 2005, though. Oh, so what album does it come from? Ricky & Rhoda went so well together on "Very saxy". MG

Might? I bet there's a trillion unreleased cuts - or why would they limit it to the stuff with Crosby & Fournier? MG

Yeah, you really didn't get me. My post wasn't anything to do with smooth jazz. It was just a general comment on what that sociologist had said and the general attitude. MG

Hey, there's a DJ in Gainesville with a handle of Jazzbo! MG

Rev Cleophus Robinson - He's done great things - Peacock orig Salem Travelers - Give me liberty or death - Checker orig MG

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I didn't click on this one, because of Berigan's warning. But I had clicked earlier on the one someone posted in the "we all hate BN82" thread, without the warning. Now THAT was mean! But once bitten... MG

This doesn't seem an unreasonable response to me. One of the things music has been supposed to do since the very earliest times is unite the community (quite often around a shaman or tribal or clan leader). Musicians in hunter-gatherer tribes would not otherwise have been allowed the time needed to learn to play or sing effectively. Of course, it didn't stop once mankind discovered agriculture. And the way it works is through peer pressure. We think too much about art and personal expression; not enough about community benefits. MG

Is that on Rhoda's album "Very saxy"? MG

Research is frequently required by the ruling classes who are somewhat immune to common sense. Just one of those things - a trip to the moon on gossamer wings. But now the crash. A technical question. How big is a zip-code? Our post codes identify down to the street so my house number and post code is sufficient to reach me. How near does a zip code get to you in America? MG

Fantastic!!!! I've been holding off getting his Argo material in case a Mosaic turned up! Wonderful! MG