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I think it's called "Friendly Fire", one of the few discs with Moran that I don't own (or at least not yet). Over time, I find I'm growing less and less fond of Lovano, for some reason - so I've put off getting this disc probably for that reason. Anyone else have "Friendly Fire", and if so, what do you think of it? ( I know I should get it, but I haven't found it used yet - and I think that's what it'd take for me to plunk down any kind of cash for it. )

Glad for any chance to hear some 'new' Joe Henderson!!! In fact, unless I'm forgetting something, isn't this the only "previously unreleased" Joe Henderson that's been released at any time since he passed away?? (Counting anything Joe's on, either as a leader, or as a sideman.)

Everyone, please be sure to specify whether you're talking about the primary "Procrastinator" session (with Wayne Shorter), or the extra session only found on the TOCJ (or original double-LP). The original poster seems to have been asking for reviews of the main "Procrastinator" session (meaning the one with Wayne), and it'd be good if we could clarify what we're talking about when giving feedback. ===== Main session (with Wayne Shorter, on the domestic CD) - I'd give it an A- letter grade, or an 9 on a 10 scale. Extra session (only on TOCJ or 2LP version) - I'd give it a solid B letter grade (although some days maybe a B+), or a 7 on a 10 scale, maybe 7.5 or even 8 some days.

I think that extra session (found only on the TOCJ, or on the original double-LP) is mighty fine, and I'd give it a solid "B+" if I was giving out letter grades. The three-horn front line really adds a lot to the session, and I think all the tunes (except one) are pretty strong. Do I think it's the very best Lee Morgan ever? Not quite - but I'd definitely rank it alone (the extra session, all by itself) as being in top-half of all the Lee Morgan sessions ever recorded (with Lee as the leader). Don't pay $75 for the TOCJ, but if you see it for anything less than $35 or even $40, it's well worth it (IMHO). It's a bitch to find, so if you do see it anywhere for a reasonable price - by all means get it. And, if you don't like it (meaning the extra session), you're sure to make back what you spent on it (plus $10 or $20 profit, at least) if you take it to eBay.

"Procrastinator" is one of my top-5 Lee Morgan discs, without a doubt. Maybe even in my top-3 (I'd have to think about it more, but long story short - it's way up near the top on my "Lee Mogan" best-of list.) Another reason I like it so much, is that we all know 1967 was a *killer* year (on record) for Wayne Shorter (although we know this mostly from his work with Miles) - both as a player, and especially as a composer (with all the tunes he wrote for "Sorcerer", "Neffertiti", and "Water Babies"). The album "Procrastinator" is the only progressive date (from all of Wayne's recorded output during 1967) with Wayne as a sideman, but without Miles. That fact alone makes it somewhat unique. Also, "Procrastinator" features two tunes written by Wayne, and not recorded elsewhere (at least not that I'm aware of). Anyway, regardless of all the statistical reasons for getting it, it's simply a damn fine date (IMHO), and well worth picking up - especially since it can be had for regular, domestic prices. Get it, and let us know what you think!!!

I think I have nearly everything Moran has released commercially (everything with him as the leader, everything with him on Osby's albums, and most of the rest of his sideman work), and I find Moran to be one of the most exciting jazz pianists today. He's also one of the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet. I've talked with him after shows about 4 times, and traded a handfull of e-mails with him. Without question, get everything with Moran as the leader, and also get Osby's last 4 or 5 releases (everything since and including "Zero", which I think came out in about 1998). They're all top-drawer, at least in my book. ===== Oh, if you go to Moran's website, there's about one hour's worth of MP3's, all recorded live about 2 years ago - with Moran's regular trio. And Osby's website has about six hours of MP3's, all recorded live since about 1997 or 1998 - and all but one hour is with Moran. All of it is outstanding, IMHO.

Neil Swainson: 49th Parallel I've seen this title (on CD) three times in the past week at Barns & Noble, as part of their "Concord - $3.99" sale. An excellent date, especially since it's got Joe and Woody Shaw!!!

I saw Project/Object here in Kansas City about 6 months ago, with Nappy Brock and Ike Willis. Well worth going to hear, especially since the tickets were only like $12, and the venue was like a mile from my house. Ike was real nice to talk to before the show, as was Brock. It's clear they really love Zappa's music, and they seem to get quite a lot out of keeping his music alive, so to speak. I'm sure they (Project/Object) has a web-site, with tour dates and such... Gosh, golly - how easy is that: http://www.projectobject.com/ And here's the dates for their spring tour... 3/06 Northampton, MA Iron Horse 3/07 Trenton, NJ The Conduit 3/08 Falls Church, VA State Theatre 3/09 Pittsburgh, PA Club Cafe 3/10 Pittsburgh, PA Club Cafe 3/11 Ferndale, MI Magic Bag 3/12 Louisville, KY A1A 3/13 Bloomington, IN Bluebird Theater 3/14 Chicago, IL Martyr's 3/15 Chicago, IL Martyr's 3/17 St. Louis, MO Cicero's 3/19 Asheville, NC Stella Blue 3/20 Savannah, GA The Music Grill 3/21 Atlanta, GA Variety Theatre 3/22 Charlotte, NC Visulite Theatre 3/23 Carrboro, NC Cat's Cradle 3/28 Buffalo, NY Tralf Music Hall 3/29 Philadelphia, PA Trocadero Theatre 4/04 Cambridge, MA Middle-East Club (downstairs) 4/05 New York, NY B.B. King's Blues Club

Brad Mehldau covers an Elliott Smith tune on a promo-only CD - the same one where Mehldau does a solo-piano version of Radiohead's "Paranoid Android". I'll have to look up the particulars later, as I'm up way past my bedtime at the moment. ===== My vague memory tells me it's "Bottle Up And Explode", if that in fact even is an Elliott Smith tune. Off to ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz........

I checked, and I do have this album on vinyl (in great shape), but I gots no turntable to play it on. So, I'm leaning strongly towards settin' Peter up with my copy, for a minor trade of some sort. (I'm sure I wouldn't miss my copy, and it's not like I'd buy again today, if I ran across it in a store right now.*) ( In any case, Peter, it sounds like you'll soon have "Jewel..." from somebody here... ) *on LP that is. If it ever came out on CD, I'd be temped. Not for full ECM list-price, but if I saw it used on CD for $9 - hell yeah, I'd get it.

I can also highly reccomend this title. Super-excellent as a serious jazz/classical crossover album that really works, without a hint of "cheeze" factor. By all means, get this one if you're on the fence about it.

I don't have a ton of Duke Jordan, but I just stumbled on an 'Inner City' LP that I didn't even realize I had... How is this album?? I don't have a turntable (alas), but I see it's been released on CD by SteepleChase. ( In particular, how's Richard Williams' performance on this album?? ) Thanks!!

Thanks Jim!!! The two audio-samples from the last link you gave do sound interesting - and far more restrained than I had expected. Actually, I'm sorry to admit that I really don't have much Mulligan in my collection. Nothing with him as a leader, and I think only a handful of things with him as a sideman. Birth of the Cool, of course, but besides that - I'm not sure what. I'm sure I do have a couple things, I think, but I'm hard pressed to remember anything specific. Damn, I really do need to unpack my music one of these days. 75% of my CD's are still in boxes, from moving about 8 months ago, and I'm starting to forget what I own!!

I'm afraid I'm completely ignorant of the Mulligan Concert Band. Can somebody shoot me some album titles, so I can look 'em up on AMG, or otherwise get hip to what should probably be something I'd be interested in?? Approximately when were they recorded (just a range of years will do fine)?? How big was/were the group(s)? Somebody, somebody, please edumacate me, please!!

I might have a copy, if I remember right. At least I did at one time, I think. I'll look tonight, and see. If so, I'm sure we could work out some sort of reasonable trade for it.

LINK: http://www.grapnel.net/moor/ Nice work, doubleM. If I might ask - would you be willing to post the Joe Henderson picture you did?? I'm a big Henderson fan, and would love to see it. Keep up the great work!!!

OK, any jazz board worth it's salt has gotta have a Zappa thread, so here goes... I'll kick it off by including a LINK to a fascinating interview with David Ocker, who was Zappa's primary copyist during the years of 1977-1984. Ocker was involved in a significant amount of Zappa's "serious" music, including Zappa's pivotal early Synclavier works, and his early 80’s recordings with the London Symphony Orchestra, and the with Zappa works conducted by Boulez I might add that I was and probably still am (although to a lesser degree) a huge fan of Zappa's music, "serious" or otherwise. "The Yellow Shark" was one of the first 20th-Century "classical" recordings I ever got into on any kind of deep level, and it lead me to the music of Henze, Varèse, Hindimith, Schoenberg, Berg, Roger Sessions, and hundreds of other 20th century composers and their works. This thread don’t gotta only just talk about Zappa’s “Classical” side, but that’s where it’s gonna start!!

Funny you should mention that. Jason Moran's "Black Stars" came out on that Tuesday (9/11), and I often think of that when listening to the album. (Less so now, but I thought about it plenty in the 6 months after 9/11.) Actually, I got mine the night before (Monday night, 9/10), from a local store where I know the manager, and by writing a post-dated check. But I'm sure that if I hadn't gotten it Monday night (the night before 9/11), it would have been a month before I would have gotten it. I think my music buying pretty much stopped cold for a month or two after 9/11, if I remember right. (Or maybe it was only a few weeks.)

The Gerald Wilson box is outstanding. I too had never heard a bit of his work until I got the box. (Well, actually I did have one Wilson CD, that I got used on eBay - and promptly ordered the box only about a week later.) Until I read it here or maybe on the BNBB, I was also totally unaware of Wilson's work on the Carmell Jones box. Unfortunatly I'm between jobs at the moment, so I'm not buying anything these days. But I think the Jones box will be one of my first purchases after I finally become gainfully employed again, hopefully in a few months - knock on wood.

I was aware of Pat Martino having to relearn everything (don't remember all the details, but I've heard the story a few times - I'm sure of it). But, I'm afraid I'm totally in the dark about the same thing happening with Mal Waldron. (Might have something to do with the fact that I have very little Waldron, a fact I should really try to rectify sometime. I think the only Waldron date I have is the quartet date with Joe Henderson, from the early 80's or so. It's never been released on CD, I remember that much.) ===== I suppose it's maybe in Waldron's AMG bio, but I'm just way too "not at all with it" today to go and look. My wife and I went to a potluck dinner last night, and I ate something that did not agree with me at all (something that thankfully she didn't eat). I won't give any details (which you can all thank me for), other than to say I don't think I've been this sick and miserable for nearly a decade.

at 11:30pm (CST), on Sat., March 15th..... (And in no particular order) Andrew Hill Jason Moran Herbie Hancock Stanley Cowell not sure about number 5, maybe Sun Ra??? Ask me a different time, and my list'll probably be a little different, although I'm sure Hill and Hancock will always be on my top-5 list.

One of the Hicks sideman discs I do already own is David Murray's "Ballads for Bass Clarinet", which really is both ballads and some mid-tempo tunes. (It's not nearly as sedate as it's title might indicate.) So, yes, I will have to check out some other Murray discs with Hicks.

Hi Bev. Also glad to see you again. I'm kinda lurking on AAJ, but feel right at home here.